recent gen games are complete crap with exception of few

1.Old wine in new bottle theory ( milking a franchise ).lets see ... Halo,call of duty. No introduction of new IP's

2.very short single player games ( many games are over in 5 hours)

3.main focus is on multiplayer over single player. multiplayer sucks and gets boring after a while.

4.graphics are preference over gameplay.

5.unoptimised games (requires frequent patches), shoddy ports

6.drm crap which requires you to be frequently online to even enjoy some sp games, you have to be paid member to enjoy multiplayer or download beta demos in some systems.

7.DLC crap. a unfinished game costs 60$, pay more 60$ DLC to enjoy a complete game. Expansions from previous gens were better and cheaper.

8.Expensive and frequent System Upgrades to enjoy a game

Above all older gen games were much better, lenghtier and highly enjoyable(replayable) such as Return to Castle Wolfenstein (fps), Counter Strike 1.6(mp) , etc.

Only few new IP's are groundbreaking nowadays as The Witcher, Demons/Dark Souls etc.

Thoughts?

honestly the witcher isnt that groundbreaking of an IP that some people think it is really.

Just cause its mature and choices are less clear cut, doesnt mean its groundbreaking, the same can be applied to GTA IV's narrative.

Wow, another one of these threads...

And you just figured that out, now?

I agree with some of the points the OP makes, my biggest gripe is the constant updates for either the console or the games. The number of times ive thought i'll put a game on for 20-30 mins to kill some time waiting for something and i have to wait sometimes 20+mins for an update to DL and install by which point ive lost interest in playing the game and do what i was waitin for originally:twisted:

Unfinished games, GT5 immediately springs to mind, after 5 yrs in development the very first time i try to play it i have to wait for well over 90 mins for a GB+ update to DL and install and then the game itself has to install alongside that. Again the number of times ive thought i'll have a quick game on it only to be greeted by yet another huge update which again means i lose interest waiting and have other things to do.

It good that companies release updates for their games but on the flipside it drives me insane when i cant actually play the dam game because of them.

Next gen this will only get worse not better.....:evil::roll:

I agree with some of the points the OP makes, my biggest gripe is the constant updates for either the console or the games. The number of times ive thought i'll put a game on for 20-30 mins to kill some time waiting for something and i have to wait sometimes 20+mins for an update to DL and install by which point ive lost interest in playing the game and do what i was waitin for originally:twisted:

Unfinished games, GT5 immediately springs to mind, after 5 yrs in development the very first time i try to play it i have to wait for well over 90 mins for a GB+ update to DL and install and then the game itself has to install alongside that. Again the number of times ive thought i'll have a quick game on it only to be greeted by yet another huge update which again means i lose interest waiting and have other things to do.

It good that companies release updates for their games but on the flipside it drives me insane when i cant actually play the dam game because of them.

Next gen this will only get worse not better.....:evil::roll:

l34052

while i undestand TC's point of view, I honestly think that this gen still managed to offer many amazing titles...

yes , gaming becomes crappy when greed is bigger than dedication

On consoles maybe.MBirdy88

TC is incorrect.

Some of those points are valid,but gaming isn't as bad as many people try to say...

If you play only most mainstream titles from publishers like EA,then yes,you'll be facing lots of anti-consumer crap getting in the way,but if you simply say no to them and switch focus to other smaller developers and games,you'll find out gaming is still an awesome hobby :)

Oh,and for the user who says "LOL PC" at the DRM point,console hardware itself is a form of DRM,so DRM is by no means a PC exclusive flaw...

yes , gaming becomes crappy when greed is bigger than dedication

AmnesiaHaze

its a multi billion dollar industry with strong ties to the other media industries, and its rapidly growing as a source of entertainment and recently surpasse films.Yet some people still want it to be totally locked in an unacessable or still on a bedroom grassroots level.

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

yes , gaming becomes crappy when greed is bigger than dedication

razgriz_101

its a multi billion dollar industry with strong ties to the other media industries, and its rapidly growing as a source of entertainment and recently surpasse films.Yet some people still want it to be totally locked in an unacessable or still on a bedroom grassroots level.

how about you make your own games, problem solved

how about you make your own games, problem solved

Chris_Williams

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

how about you make your own games, problem solved

AmnesiaHaze

[QUOTE="indzman"]graphics are preference over gameplay.SNIPER4321

Half life > Crysis. Crysis is just graphics, Farcry was more awesome in all department.

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[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] Crysis has better gameplay than any 90s games.SNIPER4321

Half life > Crysis. Crysis is just graphics, Farcry was more awesome in all department.

Crysis 2 sucks. Crysis is good but in no way better than Half Life 2, Farcry from 2004 lol.

You should stick to books then. Blabadon

bewbs :oops:

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

how about you make your own games, problem solved

Chris_Williams

???Chris_Williams

i agree 100 percent except there is one exception that is wii ,and handhelds , ,

these 3 platforms/now 5

offer good games that can be played over and over again , 360 id say is the worst because its the main culprit if it wasnt for 360 and activision with call of duty , there would be more variety around here

lets face it , when cod wasnt around we had top gear (2.5d racer) good resident evils , many more original unique fun games like them ,

even on playstation platforms which includes gta driver mgs etc these were good back in the day , now they all take out of the book of call of duty and its all been ruined

another thing is all the new kids want is graphics graphics this graphics that , that would be fine but i would like some classic gameplay to return

such as --zombies ate my neighbors top gear only nintendo realises the need for both types of games its appearent with nsmb and smg , -1 is a traditional side scroller the other a full fledged 3d world , then metroid also did this ,

to bad the fanboys say other m wasnt that good , i thought it was great to split things up once and a while ,

if they came and did zombies ate my neighbors 2 on wii u w same snes style gameplay id eat it up in a heart beat but if they came and made the same game a cod rip off , nope sorry capcom has already made me not like re on consoles lately ,

for that sloppy reorc and now they rushing to make re6? lol they make me laugh im not buying that game unless its on wiiu because wiiu could use the games , it can get ,

Sorry Indz but I have to disagree with you. Honestly, I believe there have been lots of truly brilliant experiences this gen, with many more memories yet to be made in the near future.

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="indzman"]

Half life > Crysis. Crysis is just graphics, Farcry was more awesome in all department.

indzman

Crysis 2 sucks. Crysis is good but in no way better than Half Life 2, Farcry from 2004 lol.

Crysis 2 is awesome!

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

yes , gaming becomes crappy when greed is bigger than dedication

AmnesiaHaze

its a multi billion dollar industry with strong ties to the other media industries, and its rapidly growing as a source of entertainment and recently surpasse films.Yet some people still want it to be totally locked in an unacessable or still on a bedroom grassroots level.

because gee i dunno they want to make money.

Clearly you wouldnt be able to run one of these companies to save yourself, the shareholder doesnt care bout how peed off a few gamers get on a board like SW as they are just a small fish in a big pond.One where other fishes are making them cash.

Thats the way capitalism works, if you dont like it then...well thats life.

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

its a multi billion dollar industry with strong ties to the other media industries, and its rapidly growing as a source of entertainment and recently surpasse films.Yet some people still want it to be totally locked in an unacessable or still on a bedroom grassroots level.

razgriz_101

because gee i dunno they want to make money.

Clearly you wouldnt be able to run one of these companies to save yourself, the shareholder doesnt care bout how peed off a few gamers get on a board like SW as they are just a small fish in a big pond.One where other fishes are making them cash.

Thats the way capitalism works, if you dont like it then...well thats life.

Its not exactly true, since my favourite game this gen came less than a year ago.

But yeah, this gen did last long enough.

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[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"] as you say , they have billions of dollars , yet they charging for DLC that was clearly removed from the game and you have to pay double the price to get a complete game , they release broken games which they patch later (in the best case, sometimes they dont even bother) AmnesiaHaze

because gee i dunno they want to make money.

Clearly you wouldnt be able to run one of these companies to save yourself, the shareholder doesnt care bout how peed off a few gamers get on a board like SW as they are just a small fish in a big pond.One where other fishes are making them cash.

Thats the way capitalism works, if you dont like it then...well thats life.

At the same time practices differ from company to company, same time compared to say how Capcom works they are bigger and some games dont hit sales targets or profit targets, where as DLC is near enough a method of pure profit and a tool used against the silly folks with little brain.

Its the same with record labels, some use horrendously cheap materials and only barely comply to redbook standards to print cd's other companies still go full out, and definately shows its the same ethic some companies still want to deliver a full robust product others dont, thats the way it will always work every company has diffrent ideologies and views about their buisness and ethics.

Not every buisness can be the same, because they price DLC reasonably is beccause thats their choice, Capcom and others do it on a purely for profitability basis really.Although to compare these companies to socialists are stupid as their DLC at the end of the day is still designed to be a profitable product that sells.

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

because gee i dunno they want to make money.

Clearly you wouldnt be able to run one of these companies to save yourself, the shareholder doesnt care bout how peed off a few gamers get on a board like SW as they are just a small fish in a big pond.One where other fishes are making them cash.

Thats the way capitalism works, if you dont like it then...well thats life.

razgriz_101

At the same time practices differ from company to company, same time compared to say how Capcom works they are bigger and some games dont hit sales targets or profit targets, where as DLC is near enough a method of pure profit and a tool used against the silly folks with little brain.

Its the same with record labels, some use horrendously cheap materials and only barely comply to redbook standards to print cd's other companies still go full out, and definately shows its the same ethic some companies still want to deliver a full robust product others dont, thats the way it will always work every company has diffrent ideologies and views about their buisness and ethics.

Not every buisness can be the same, because they price DLC reasonably is beccause thats their choice, Capcom and others do it on a purely for profitability basis really.Although to compare these companies to socialists are stupid as their DLC at the end of the day is still designed to be a profitable product that sells.

Unfinished games? As an example Gears 3 and MW 3 come with more content out the box than the original Cod or Gears.

Most people get bored of sp long before mp.

Just stay in OT where you belong...

Just stay in OT where you belong...

Zaibach

Who's gonna stop me lady?

BTW cute sig, who is she?

This has literally been one of the craziest, most innovative gens ever, with dozens, nay hundreds, of awesome games of all kinds flying out onto all systems. If you have managed to convince yourself that this gen sucked, I honestly pity you, because you've managed to convince yourself that a golden tankard of the finest ale is actually a dirty chipped cup of p!ss. And that would be a real shame :(locopatho

You haven''t been playing games very long if that is what you believe. This is one of the worst most uninnovative gens in gaming history.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]This has literally been one of the craziest, most innovative gens ever, with dozens, nay hundreds, of awesome games of all kinds flying out onto all systems. If you have managed to convince yourself that this gen sucked, I honestly pity you, because you've managed to convince yourself that a golden tankard of the finest ale is actually a dirty chipped cup of p!ss. And that would be a real shame :(E_Razr

You haven''t been playing games very long if that is what you believe. This is one of the worst most uninnovative gens in gaming history.

I have been playing games since mid 80s and i agree with him. This was my second favourite gen, first was 16bit.