Recent proof Crash Bandicoot's locked and going nowhere.

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#1 Jakandsigz
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This was as of Oct around the time the rumors were becoming a big deal. Please keep in mind that none of this "putting the company out in the front line" with risks would make no sense even if it was not fully locked. keep in mind even the "Crash" term itself, is locked

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/caseviewer/assignments?caseId=75179576&docIndex=3#docIndex=3

And for those other people who don't know what this is:

Obtaining a security interest in property of a borrower enables a creditor to mitigate risk. In both the

United States and the United Kingdom, a validly executed security interest may enable a creditor to claim

a right to the collateral in the event of a default or bankruptcy. A creditor must both obtain a security

interest grant and “perfect” or “record” that interest so as to establish priority over non-secured creditors

and other third-party claims to the asset.

In both jurisdictions (the United States and the UK), there is dual, overlapping protection for

trademarks—in the United States, this is state and federal law, whereas in the UK, a Community trade

mark (CTM) registration and UK registration can both apply. Fortunately, the procedure for obtaining and

perfecting a security interest in both the United States and the UK is fairly straightforward. However, it

should be borne in mind that obtaining a security interest over a registered UK trade mark may be of

limited value if a security interest in a corresponding CTM is not also obtained.

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And the game sales pages are NOT down:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id285005463?mt=8

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id373849969?mt=8

https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-ca/games/crash-of-the-titans/cid=UP0002-ULUS10304_00-CRASHTITANLEGACY

https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-ca/games/crash-mind-over-mutant/cid=UP0002-ULUS10377_00-CRASHMUTANLEGACY

https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-ca/games/crash-tag-team-racing/cid=UP0002-ULUS10044_00-CRASHRACELEGACY1 (notice how Activision replaced the Sierra logo recently on this one.)

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#3 Heil68
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So its coming exclusively to PS4 then? Awesome. Day fucking 1.

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#6  Edited By Jakandsigz
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@StriateEnd said:

Man government documents must be wrong along with IP and trademark lists. How dare that government lie to us, even though it's required by law!

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#7  Edited By applefan1991  Moderator
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@Jakandsigz You have literally posted 8 threads that are on the first page. Can you please stop spamming the "New Topic" button?

EDIT: Make that 9 and 13 including the 2nd page. @musicalmac are their still rules about spamming new threads? just curious, because I know their used to be.

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@Jakandsigz said:

@StriateEnd said:

Man government documents must be wrong along with IP and trademark lists. How dare that government lie to us, even though it's required by law!

d-d-d-d-d-damage controooolllllolololol. U mad Crash is coming home? U mad Sony gets yet another AAA exclusive franchise?

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@WadeFan said:

@Jakandsigz You have literally posted 8 threads that are on the first page. Can you please stop spamming the "New Topic" button?

EDIT: Make that 9 and 13 including the 2nd page. @musicalmac are their still rules about spamming new threads? just curious, because I know their used to be.

You need to learn to tell time. Come back to me when i make 9 thread in 12 hours.

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@StriateEnd said:

@Jakandsigz said:

@StriateEnd said:

Man government documents must be wrong along with IP and trademark lists. How dare that government lie to us, even though it's required by law!

d-d-d-d-d-damage controooolllllolololol. U mad Crash is coming home? U mad Sony gets yet another AAA exclusive franchise?

Says the idiot who does not know what the basic yellow diamond right of way road sign looks like.

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#11  Edited By applefan1991  Moderator
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@Jakandsigz said:

@WadeFan said:

@Jakandsigz You have literally posted 8 threads that are on the first page. Can you please stop spamming the "New Topic" button?

EDIT: Make that 9 and 13 including the 2nd page. @musicalmac are their still rules about spamming new threads? just curious, because I know their used to be.

You need to learn to tell time. Come back to me when i make 9 thread in 12 hours.

um...all I said was 9 threads on the front page. Nothing about time...what? Are you high?

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Why is this pissing you off so much?

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why u mad bro?

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#14 Chrome-
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Also why the hell do you care so much if they release a new crash bandicoot game or not?

Did crash traumatise your childhood while you were growing up or something?

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I would be so happy if ND made a new Crash Bandicoot.

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Poor Lems, so mad that Crash comes back home

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TC butthurt

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@Jipset said:

I would be so happy if ND made a new Crash Bandicoot.

I mean it's very possible too. They have 2 teams now. One is working on the next Uncharted, while one is finishing DLC on TLOU

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@Heil68 said:

So its coming exclusively to PS4 then? Awesome. Day fucking 1.

yeah that preemptive damage control, sad TC, just announced and already melting down over it.

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@WadeFan said:

@Jipset said:

I would be so happy if ND made a new Crash Bandicoot.

I mean it's very possible too. They have 2 teams now. One is working on the next Uncharted, while one is finishing DLC on TLOU

You said "spamming" learn what spamming means. If all those were made in 15 hours you would have a point about spamming. But you can't tell time so you would not know that I did not spam 12 threads in 15 hours. Learn the definitions of your words. Get higher than a 2nd grade education.

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@Krelian-co said:

@Heil68 said:

So its coming exclusively to PS4 then? Awesome. Day fucking 1.

yeah that preemptive damage control, sad TC, just announced and already melting down over it.

The difference between me and you is I actually have a PS4 and am not pretending to be a Sony fanboy. I made (well sony screwed up and won't transfer my other account but whatever) a brand new account for the PS4. After this week i will possibly be playing more online, but you can add me now at- oh wait, you don't have a Sony console... :(

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@Jakandsigz said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Heil68 said:

So its coming exclusively to PS4 then? Awesome. Day fucking 1.

yeah that preemptive damage control, sad TC, just announced and already melting down over it.

The difference between me and you is I actually have a PS4 and am not pretending to be a Sony fanboy. I made (well sony screwed up and won't transfer my other account but whatever) a brand new account for the PS4. After this week i will possibly be playing more online, but you can add me now at- oh wait, you don't have a Sony console... :(

I got my PS4 brah. :D

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#23  Edited By applefan1991  Moderator
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@Jakandsigz said:

@WadeFan said:

@Jipset said:

I would be so happy if ND made a new Crash Bandicoot.

I mean it's very possible too. They have 2 teams now. One is working on the next Uncharted, while one is finishing DLC on TLOU

You said "spamming" learn what spamming means. If all those were made in 15 hours you would have a point about spamming. But you can't tell time so you would not know that I did not spam 12 threads in 15 hours. Learn the definitions of your words. Get higher than a 2nd grade education.

Sure, let's talk definitions.

Has nothing to do with 15 hours or anything. Fact of the matter is, you keep posting tons of threads and they are all mediocre at best. 13 threads that you have created on just the first 2 pages, and 9 on just the first page. That is spamming.

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@Jakandsigz said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Heil68 said:

So its coming exclusively to PS4 then? Awesome. Day fucking 1.

yeah that preemptive damage control, sad TC, just announced and already melting down over it.

The difference between me and you is I actually have a PS4 and am not pretending to be a Sony fanboy. I made (well sony screwed up and won't transfer my other account but whatever) a brand new account for the PS4. After this week i will possibly be playing more online, but you can add me now at- oh wait, you don't have a Sony console... :(

going by the front page you made at least 7 topics today

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#25  Edited By Krelian-co
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@Jakandsigz said:

@Krelian-co said:

@Heil68 said:

So its coming exclusively to PS4 then? Awesome. Day fucking 1.

yeah that preemptive damage control, sad TC, just announced and already melting down over it.

The difference between me and you is I actually have a PS4 and am not pretending to be a Sony fanboy. I made (well sony screwed up and won't transfer my other account but whatever) a brand new account for the PS4. After this week i will possibly be playing more online, but you can add me now at- oh wait, you don't have a Sony console... :(

if you say so xD the only one pretending to have a ps4 here is you, send me your psn user in private and i'll add you, i can be your first frand! i highly doubt you have one you use it as an excuse.

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TC your bad bro.Just admit it already.

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@Jakandsigz said:

This was as of Oct around the time the rumors were becoming a big deal. Please keep in mind that none of this "putting the company out in the front line" with risks would make no sense even if it was not fully locked. keep in mind even the "Crash" term itself, is locked

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/caseviewer/assignments?caseId=75179576&docIndex=3#docIndex=3

And for those other people who don't know what this is:

Obtaining a security interest in property of a borrower enables a creditor to mitigate risk. In both the

United States and the United Kingdom, a validly executed security interest may enable a creditor to claim

a right to the collateral in the event of a default or bankruptcy. A creditor must both obtain a security

interest grant and “perfect” or “record” that interest so as to establish priority over non-secured creditors

and other third-party claims to the asset.

In both jurisdictions (the United States and the UK), there is dual, overlapping protection for

trademarks—in the United States, this is state and federal law, whereas in the UK, a Community trade

mark (CTM) registration and UK registration can both apply. Fortunately, the procedure for obtaining and

perfecting a security interest in both the United States and the UK is fairly straightforward. However, it

should be borne in mind that obtaining a security interest over a registered UK trade mark may be of

limited value if a security interest in a corresponding CTM is not also obtained.

You can purchase trademark/intellectual property rights irrespective of the security interests, as long as the security contract doesn't restrict it and you satisfy the demands of the creditor (ala pay off the debt). What a security interest gives you is if the owner of the asset declares bankruptcy, you have a claim to the proceeds that are generated from the sale of that asset to provide some sort of return on your failed investment as opposed to losing everything (assuming you take priority, which is why you want the security interest perfected). But if you owe backtaxes, you can still get the shaft since the IRS takes priority over all debts. From the link, the contract seems to have been drafted to borrow against the value of the IPs in Activision's possession to provide them with the necessary cash to complete their buyout from Vivendi. Sony is willing to toss in a bit more cash to buy Crash back, which falls in line with the recent rumors.

Basically your post contains nothing to dissuade from the likelihood that the IP may be for sale and Vivendi/Activision is looking to shop it. It's a great FYI, if anybody were interested to know more about property rights and banking, admittedly.

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Loljakandsigz thread

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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/22/did-sony-buy-crash-bandicoot-from-activision

It looks like its pretty much official. Cant wait.