Red Alert 3 Gamespot Review - 8.0

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#1 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/redalert3/review.html

I didn't see this coming -- I expected AAA. Looks like there's a possibility of the console versions scoring a 7.5; disappointing score though, Red Alert 2 was one of my favorite games of all time.

I'll still be definitely picking this up. what about you guys?

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Didnt expect an 8.

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#3 Teuf_
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Yeah the videos I've seen look awesome...I'd buy this game for the cutscenes alone.

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#4 lantus
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I definitely thought this game was going to score higher than that, I might still get it on 360 though since me and my buddy want to play some co-op.
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Hmm. I'll have to put this game on hold for a bit.
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#6 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Hmm. I'll have to put this game on hold for a bit. bladeeagle
8.0 is still a "great" score, lad.
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#7 bladeeagle
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[QUOTE="bladeeagle"]Hmm. I'll have to put this game on hold for a bit. Stevo_the_gamer
8.0 is still a "great" score, lad.

I realize that but with so many other games coming out it's been dropped down a bit on my must buy list. I'm still getting it.

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#8 Espada12
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I play them for the story. So I'll pick this one up. Never really got into RA multiplayer, but the cutscenes are so high quality and nice and the story is actually done pretty well. (at least from my experience with Tiberium Wars)
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#9 XturnalS
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And hermits can't catch a break. At least l4d will come. C&C isnt my thing but still a good score. wonder what kasavin thinks of the review.
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#10 agentfred
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[QUOTE="bladeeagle"]Hmm. I'll have to put this game on hold for a bit. Stevo_the_gamer
8.0 is still a "great" score, lad.

It's a tough holiday season. With all of the amazing games that have been released this year, RA3 will have to take a back seat. That's not to say I'll never buy it, it's just that I've got so many other games that I would like to play before it.

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#11 Espada12
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You know as I post my response I looked at the review the first thing was..

The story and cutscenes are wonderfully corny as a pro. Nice :)

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It's a tough holiday season. With all of the amazing games that have been released this year, RA3 will have to take a back seat. That's not to say I'll never buy it, it's just that I've got so many other games that I would like to play before it.

agentfred
Who's to say this isn't an amazing game? I'd take Gamespot scores with a grain of salt. ;)
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Anohter RTS with poor path finding. How frustrating.
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#14 bladeeagle
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And hermits can't catch a break. At least l4d will come. C&C isnt my thing but still a good score. wonder what kasavin thinks of the review.XturnalS

RA3 and L4D are both multiplatform. Besides Starcraft 2 and Dawn of War 2 is on the horizon.

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#15 agentfred
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[QUOTE="agentfred"]

It's a tough holiday season. With all of the amazing games that have been released this year, RA3 will have to take a back seat. That's not to say I'll never buy it, it's just that I've got so many other games that I would like to play before it.

Stevo_the_gamer

Who's to say this isn't an amazing game? I'd take Gamespot scores with a grain of salt. ;)

Oh of course. I've been burned enough times to learn that. :)

Still, my personal impressions have put the game on my wanted list, but not quite at the top.

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#16 bladeeagle
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

It's a tough holiday season. With all of the amazing games that have been released this year, RA3 will have to take a back seat. That's not to say I'll never buy it, it's just that I've got so many other games that I would like to play before it.

agentfred

Who's to say this isn't an amazing game? I'd take Gamespot scores with a grain of salt. ;)

Oh of course. I've been burned enough times to learn that. :)

Still, my personal impressions have put the game on my wanted list, but not quite at the top.

Exactly how I feel.

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[QUOTE="XturnalS"]And hermits can't catch a break. At least l4d will come. C&C isnt my thing but still a good score. wonder what kasavin thinks of the review.bladeeagle

RA3 and L4D are both multiplatform. Besides Starcraft 2 and Dawn of War 2 is on the horizon.

Don't forget Empire: Total War.

On topic, lower than what I expected; not that I care since the review makes it sound like an awesome RTS and that's all I care.

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Wow... the SP really has to be pretty bad for them to score it an 8. I don't see how they don't even highlight on the fact that this game utilizes three unique and balanced player factions. That is rare as heck in RTS games, and aside from Blizzard, I don't think anyone has really done it right for the longest time.

I'm still picking this up tomorrow for the multiplayer alone. However, I'm still shocked they would give it such a low score.

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[QUOTE="XturnalS"]And hermits can't catch a break. At least l4d will come. C&C isnt my thing but still a good score. wonder what kasavin thinks of the review.bladeeagle

RA3 and L4D are both multiplatform. Besides Starcraft 2 and Dawn of War 2 is on the horizon.

yeah but they are meant to be played on the pc. I mean RTS on consoles is meh, and I know I'll be playing L4D on the pc.

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The overall Red Alert 3 experience is a raucous one, but it lacks the technical tightness featured in the last few Command & Conquer games.

*facepalm* Unless the game broke since beta, this is a joke.

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#21 redstormrisen
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Wow... the SP really has to be pretty bad for them to score it an 8. I don't see how they don't even highlight on the fact that this game utilizes three unique and balanced player factions. That is rare as heck in RTS games, and aside from Blizzard, I don't think anyone has really done it right for the longest time.

I'm still picking this up tomorrow for the multiplayer alone. However, I'm still shocked they would give it such a low score.

shoeonhead82

3 factions is pretty much the standard now...

EA did it with CnC3 and Generals.

Hell, even Red Alert 2 had 3 factions.

Dawn of War shipped with 4 factions, it currently has 9 unique factions.

And 8.0 is not a bad score. 8.0 is a very good score. And if you actually read the review then to be honest, you would understand why it got an 8.

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#22 shoeonhead82
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[QUOTE="shoeonhead82"]

Wow... the SP really has to be pretty bad for them to score it an 8. I don't see how they don't even highlight on the fact that this game utilizes three unique and balanced player factions. That is rare as heck in RTS games, and aside from Blizzard, I don't think anyone has really done it right for the longest time.

I'm still picking this up tomorrow for the multiplayer alone. However, I'm still shocked they would give it such a low score.

redstormrisen

3 factions is pretty much the standard now...

EA did it with CnC3 and Generals.

Hell, even Red Alert 2 had 3 factions.

Dawn of War shipped with 4 factions, it currently has 9 unique factions.

And 8.0 is not a bad score. 8.0 is a very good score. And if you actually read the review then to be honest, you would understand why it got an 8.

You missed the key words. 3 factions that are unique and balanced. You can't honestly tell me CNC3 and Generals had balanced factions, and especially not the DoW series.

I'm not saying 8.0 is bad. However, relative to the other RTS scores, it doesn't make sense. CNC3 for example scores a 9.5 - and that game had issues galore, especially when it came to factions and unit AI. That said, I did read the review, and it doesn't answer why it got an 8 at all.

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YES! My prediction was right. I'm one step closer to getting Crysis, like that guy from that thread said.
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#24 mo0ksi
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And hermits can't catch a break. At least l4d will come. C&C isnt my thing but still a good score. wonder what kasavin thinks of the review.XturnalS
This was multiplat from the get go. The hype here wasn't even that big.

I was actually expecting AA

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#25 redstormrisen
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[QUOTE="redstormrisen"][QUOTE="shoeonhead82"]

Wow... the SP really has to be pretty bad for them to score it an 8. I don't see how they don't even highlight on the fact that this game utilizes three unique and balanced player factions. That is rare as heck in RTS games, and aside from Blizzard, I don't think anyone has really done it right for the longest time.

I'm still picking this up tomorrow for the multiplayer alone. However, I'm still shocked they would give it such a low score.

shoeonhead82

3 factions is pretty much the standard now...

EA did it with CnC3 and Generals.

Hell, even Red Alert 2 had 3 factions.

Dawn of War shipped with 4 factions, it currently has 9 unique factions.

And 8.0 is not a bad score. 8.0 is a very good score. And if you actually read the review then to be honest, you would understand why it got an 8.

You missed the key words. 3 factions that are unique and balanced. You can't honestly tell me CNC3 and Generals had balanced factions, and especially not the DoW series.

I'm not saying 8.0 is bad. However, relative to the other RTS scores, it doesn't make sense. CNC3 for example scores a 9.5 - and that game had issues galore, especially when it came to factions and unit AI. That said, I did read the review, and it doesn't answer why it got an 8 at all.

Relic had Dark Crusade balanced before the abortion that was soulstorm released.

And the point your missing is, a review is to give a good impression of what a game (or film, book etc) is like. If you read the review, and can find no reason to give it lower than a 9.5 for example, then its either a poor review or you have a different take on what 8.0 means than the reviewer.

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#26 MarloStanfield
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C&C3 deserved a 7

I'll pick it up but there's much beter RTS coming out

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Good score. I'll pick it up after I complete Far Cry 2 and Dead Space.
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#28 shoeonhead82
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Relic had Dark Crusade balanced before the abortion that was soulstorm released.

And the point your missing is, a review is to give a good impression of what a game (or film, book etc) is like. If you read the review, and can find no reason to give it lower than a 9.5 for example, then its either a poor review or you have a different take on what 8.0 means than the reviewer.

redstormrisen

You stated a new point, so no I did not miss it. I'm simply stating that the score doesn't make sense relative to the scores other RTSs were given, and as such there is inconsistency. That said, I don't agree with the two main flaws he pointed out. Co-op not being up to where he feels it should be, which is a secondary component to the game anyways. Or, how he feels that the units path poorly.

If you don't agree with this, by all means disagree on the point. There is no reason to argue with my opinion, without an substantiating rebuttals to the arguments I pose.

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#29 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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I didn't see this coming -- I expected AAA. Looks like there's a possibility of the console versions scoring a 7.5; disappointing score though, Red Alert 2 was one of my favorite games of all time.

I'll still be definitely picking this up. what about you guys?

Stevo_the_gamer
personally i love C&C, but it has just gone DOWN hill, though RA is my fav out of the 3 C&C series, so im sure ill pick this one up
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#30 skrat_01
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Yep, what I was expecting.

Cant wait to pick it up on the PC.

Miss all the fun that was had with RA2 (and 1)

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#31 aliblabla2007
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That's nice score, but I wasn't really interested in this game anyway.

Here's to hoping Dawn of War II, Starcraft II and Empire: Total War live up to the hype (scorewise) next year.

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#32 MarloStanfield
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seriously in the age of starcraft 2, dawn of war 2, company of heroes and total war how relevant is red alert 3?

heck even sins is real time

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I expected a higher score, but I guess that's fine.
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WOW wasnt expecting that. I thought this would be a rather easy 9.0.
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I hope it's balanced, and that Greg K. will listen to our complaints and foreword them to the team. CnC3 was one of the most poorly balanced games ever, especially after the massive economy nerf (might've just affected KW).


I'll probably try this out when it's cheaper. While I put 150+ hours into CnC3, I was really disappointed with EA's support.

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#36 skrat_01
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I hope it's balanced, and that Greg K. will listen to our complaints and foreword them to the team. CnC3 was one of the most poorly balanced games ever, especially after the massive economy nerf (might've just affected KW).


I'll probably try this out when it's cheaper. While I put 150+ hours into CnC3, I was really disappointed with EA's support.

Saturos3091

Mind me asking, but how did EA mess up C&C - with design and support?

I ask out of genuine curiosity.

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#37 Hippostrike
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I'll still probably pick this up along with Fallout. I've been looking for an RTS game to get slaughtered in and this one seems appealing enough.
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At last people start being fed up with EA beating that dead horse called Dune2....