Red Dead Redemption 2 sells 23 million, yet Take-Two Interactive's stocks decline...

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'Red Dead Redemption 2' Sold More Than 23 Million Copies, So How Did Take-Two's Stock Price Drop?

Per Take-Two Interactive, Red Dead Redemption 2, Rockstar's sprawling open-world western adventure has sold more than 23 million units worldwide. NBA 2K19 has proven to be its usual financial success and Grand Theft Auto V continues to roll on as the biggest gaming juggernaut in the history of the industry.

So why on Earth would Take-Two be experiencing any kind of decrease in shares?

Apparently, $450 million isn't always good enough for investors. That's especially the case when analyst estimated Take-Two Interactive's revenue for the current quarter to be $601 million. Per Yahoo Finance, that disparity is behind Take-Two's 14-percent shares dip. RDR 2 is still a massive commercial success, though it appears Red Dead Online, the game's purely online feature, might be in a position of stagnation as it's been in beta for three months and counting.

NBA 2K18 sold 10 million copies last year, and NBA 2K19 experienced the most financially successful launch in franchise history. GTA V's longevity is a marvel. Perhaps RDR2's similarities to GTA V and the elevated expectations that come with it are what raises expectation across the entire Take-Two front.

That's likely why Take-Two Chief Executive Officer Strauss Zelnick told Reuters, "We would never want to make the prediction that anything will be as successful as Grand Theft Auto."

Per Yahoo, Take-Two estimates its annual revenue will be between $2.89 and $2.94 billion, which is amazingly still below the $2.98 billion total that was originally delivered as an estimate by analysts.

Electronic Arts, one of Take-Two's chief competitors also experienced a similar dip in shares, but the two firms' issues may not be caused by the same factor. EA looks to have overestimated the financial success of the recently released Battlefield V, and that mildly successful title (by lofty standards) is taking much of the blame for EA's "difficult" third quarter.

Battlefield's sales fell a million copies shorter than its goal, and that could be attributed to a release date that competed with the more fleshed-out Call of Duty: Black Ops 4, Red Dead Redemption 2, and Battlefield V's delay of an uber-popular battle royale mode. Firestorm, their take on the concept, isn't reportedly due out until March.

With BO4's Blackout, the seemingly ever-present Fortnite, PUBG and the newly released smash-hit free-to-play Apex Legends (from EA's own Respawn), Firestorm may come too late to make a significant impact. Thankfully for EA, there is a chance Apex Legends and the upcoming Anthem from BioWare can drive things back upward.

In Take-Two's case, the stumble looks to be more a case of an overestimation of growth from analysts than a potentially flawed creative direction. In any case, the numbers can obviously still affect the perception of the organization to investors.

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EA also suffering after fifa 19 only selling 20mil last year and sum billions on top with microtransactions, harsh times!

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@howmakewood said:

EA also suffering after fifa 19 only selling 20mil last year and sum billions on top with microtransactions, harsh times!

These poor AAA publishers need to sell more microtransactions, it's only way to keep afloat.

But seriously what's the big deal of stock prices when your company turns a profit?

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PC version incoming. after they reveal sale figures. now they will announce PC version too.

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When it takes damn near a decade to produce a new game, 23 million copies may not be enough for investors. That’s hundreds of employees who need healthcare, 401k matching, insurance etc. It ain’t cheap...

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Just imagine how much more money if RDR2 was release on PC? Double their stocks.

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#7 mandzilla  Moderator
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The stock investor people are easily startled, but they'll soon be back, and in greater numbers.

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@davillain-: Doubt it. Torrent sites will be busy though....

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#9 Worlds_Apart
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Are Take-Two and Rockstar linked? Aren't they different companies?

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The problem is shareholders always expect a company to be making more money right now than they were at this same time last year. Modern game development cycles just don't mesh with this attitude, especially for the type of games Rockstar makes.

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@worlds_apart said:

Are Take-Two and Rockstar linked? Aren't they different companies?

Take Two owns Rockstar and 2K

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@worlds_apart: Rockstar is owned by Take Two.

Seems like shareholders had some highly unrealistic expectations, expecting RDR2 to pull GTAV numbers.

Some analysts are also blaming Fortnite for the dip in shares experienced by big AAA publishers like Take Two and EA.

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@davillain- said:

Just imagine how much more money if RDR2 was release on PC? Double their stocks.

Torrent sites would sure benefit from the traffick.

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@blackballs said:
@davillain- said:

Just imagine how much more money if RDR2 was release on PC? Double their stocks.

Torrent sites would sure benefit from the traffick.

Original joke...

@sealionact said:

@davillain-: Doubt it. Torrent sites will be busy though....

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I'm not surprised that NBA is selling and making money. Casuals buying VCs off of it to get cards for MyTeam to get elusive Pink Diamond players and/or Opal Galaxies. And those shits cost a lot.

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#16 pyro1245
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I'm not a fan of Take Two.

Let's go all digital and just ditch all these lousy publishers.

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#17 KBFloYd
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yea,

game was a flop compared to GTA5

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#18 pmanden
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Business is a cold world. No result is apparently ever good enough.