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#1 Metalscarz
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Red Dead Redemption $49.99 used at some Gamestop stores. Less then two weeks after the game came out.

No wonder devs/pubs get pissed. The game hasn't even had a full month to amass sales and Gamestop is already selling it at $10 less then new. That's even cheaper then the $5 off for a new used game they usually pull.

Regardless of consumer rights arguments, it's tough to say the developers and publishers have no issue to be pissed about IMO, even if you don't agree with how they try to combat this.

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#2 Squall18
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Thats one thing I never understand about gamestop customers, they'll get a game and trade it in right away.

I NEVER trade in a game unless it's completely not my style. I think out ofthe 75 games I have for PS3/Wii/360, I've traded in a total of 6 games.

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#3 tehsystemwarior
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Thats one thing I never understand about gamestop customers, they'll get a game and trade it in right away.

I NEVER trade in a game unless it's completely not my style. I think out ofthe 75 games I have for PS3/Wii/360, I've traded in a total of 6 games.

Squall18
Only reason I trade games in is because I need to money for more games and I'm sick of the games being traded in. For example, yesterday I needed a wireless adapter for my 360 (my laptop to xbox connection mysteriously conked out) and I got 18 dollars for 3 games I don't play anymore. (MoH airborne, GRAW 2, and Bully SE, my fav game of all time, but i still have it for the ps2.)
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Red Dead Redemption $49.99 used at some Gamestop stores. Less then two weeks after the game came out.

No wonder devs/pubs get pissed. The game hasn't even had a full month to amass sales and Gamestop is already selling it at $10 less then new. That's even cheaper then the $5 off for a new used game they usually pull.

Regardless of consumer rights arguments, it's tough to say the developers and publishers have no issue to be pissed about IMO, even if you don't agree with how they try to combat this.

Metalscarz
I agree. It's ridiculous.
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#5 darkshadow64
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Well I picked up my copy of RDR pre-owned in GAME but I had no choice since it was the only one in stock in the whole area. I got it £5 cheaper and they even offered to chuck in the Deadly Assassin outfit for me. :D

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#6 devious742
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console gaming dying?:o

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#7 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Give it a few more months and you will have trouble finding a new copy at gamestop.
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#8 deactivated-619c4c1a1a382
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Well More savings for me. That edge card also takes 10% off of used games so... :P

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#9 telefanatic
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I sold my copy on ebay for $55 bucks because i really didnt like the game its not my cup of tea, but i will never sell a game back to gamestop or anything like that because they rip you off big time.

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#10 Snugenz
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Went to buy it today and it was sold out everywhere, had to rent it instead :(

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this will save me monies

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#12 delta3074
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Red Dead Redemption $49.99 used at some Gamestop stores. Less then two weeks after the game came out.

No wonder devs/pubs get pissed. The game hasn't even had a full month to amass sales and Gamestop is already selling it at $10 less then new. That's even cheaper then the $5 off for a new used game they usually pull.

Regardless of consumer rights arguments, it's tough to say the developers and publishers have no issue to be pissed about IMO, even if you don't agree with how they try to combat this.

Metalscarz
yeah, developers all over the place are getting sick and tired of making profit on there games, it's not as if rockstar ain't going to profit from RDR,and i don't hear them complaining about it, if they where actually going to lose money and have to lay off workers then i could see your point, let's just deny poorer people from having access to the hobbie that's meant to be for everyone, so the hard done by profit making developers can increase there profit margin, while we are at it, let's stop people selling there games on so they eventually end up throwing them in the bin so nobody can use them,what a waste thet would be.
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#13 asylumni
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I sold my copy on ebay for $55 bucks because i really didnt like the game its not my cup of tea, but i will never sell a game back to gamestop or anything like that because they rip you off big time.

telefanatic

Really depends on how you do it. I've probably traded in more games this gen than any other. The key is to use deals. For example, Gamestop has been having promotions like trade 2 from this list for $40 off a new game and sometimes you can get those trade-in games from Blockbuster, Hollywood Video or Target clearances for $5-10 each. Or you could trade in games that have a higher value than what you have to pay on clearance and build credit.;)

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#14 LP4EVA2005
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ppl are trading it in already? damn thats quick
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I'll never understand that really, how people will run out and pick up a game and within a week it's already got plenty of used copies sitting on the shelf. I think people buy it, play through it as quickly as possible, and then trade it back in so they can get the most and some how they feel like they are playing the system since technically they didn't pay $65 to get the game. Either way though, I never trade games in. The first game I took to Gamestop in a number of years was Elder Scrolls IV just this last week because I got the Game of the Year Edition dirt cheap on Amazon and thus I didn't need the original anymore. I got like $5.25 for it and just put it towards a pre-order. So unless I end up double buying a game, it's not going anywhere. I don't care how bad it is or anything like that, cause you never know when you might want to play something or someone you know will want to give it a whirl. Plus I enjoy collecting games and I'm looking at 2 full bookshelves of game, I'm rather content.
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It's ridiculous. How many copies did Read Dead sold two million? How much sales were lost because of Gamestop and such. Read Dead needs five million sales to break even :S
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#17 rolo107
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Thats one thing I never understand about gamestop customers, they'll get a game and trade it in right away.

I NEVER trade in a game unless it's completely not my style. I think out ofthe 75 games I have for PS3/Wii/360, I've traded in a total of 6 games.

Squall18
Same here, although I have traded in about 10-20. Mostly games I regretted buying, or ones from the PS2 era that I wouldn't ever care to play again.
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#18 Metalscarz
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[QUOTE="Metalscarz"]

Red Dead Redemption $49.99 used at some Gamestop stores. Less then two weeks after the game came out.

No wonder devs/pubs get pissed. The game hasn't even had a full month to amass sales and Gamestop is already selling it at $10 less then new. That's even cheaper then the $5 off for a new used game they usually pull.

Regardless of consumer rights arguments, it's tough to say the developers and publishers have no issue to be pissed about IMO, even if you don't agree with how they try to combat this.

delta3074

yeah, developers all over the place are getting sick and tired of making profit on there games, it's not as if rockstar ain't going to profit from RDR,and i don't hear them complaining about it, if they where actually going to lose money and have to lay off workers then i could see your point, let's just deny poorer people from having access to the hobbie that's meant to be for everyone, so the hard done by profit making developers can increase there profit margin, while we are at it, let's stop people selling there games on so they eventually end up throwing them in the bin so nobody can use them,what a waste thet would be.

Developers everywhere are shutting down left and right, or are losing money. Do you not read the headlines on this very site? Ubisoft, and even EA are LOSING money.

Incentives to buy new is a way for them to maximize revenue streams for games that cost many millions + to make. Period.

If all you care for is a bargain then keep buying used, I couldn't care less.

But pretending the developers have nothing to be pissed off at when they are making less then they would if there was someway to stop, or delay used game sales is silly. Do you really think these companies care about you and bargain hunting? Especially if you buy used? Why should they?

And about trying to "deny" poorer people? Who's talking about denying anyone? Used game sale will not stop, even if devs can devalue them.

I'm saying that it's no wonder they are pissed when a big name game is being recyled at maximum profit for the MIDDLE MAN, so soon after release. No wonder they are trying to devalue used games. I would if I was them as well.

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I'm trading in RDR today. Maybe if R* would figure out a way to vary the missions outside of the typical "go here, go there, fight, return here" mission type I would have finished or kept it. They need to take a lesson from Infamous IMO. Instead of uselessly dragging you from one location to the next Infamous would open up otherwise inaccessible locations that played out more like a linear level. You get the best of both worlds. RDR is a good game and would be excellent if it were your first R* game. However considering it is little more than a GTA clone with a western setting that 95 metacritic score is comical and IMO an embarrassment to the industry. As far as the whole trade in debate goes, it's hard to feel bad for game developers when you read about 36 million dollar BONUSES and exotic sports car collections. What makes them think they are above any other product (cars, DVD's, CD's, lawnmowers, ect.)? I've never heard of John Deer complaining about used lawnmowers or Lazy Boy only including the recliner arm for their rocking chairs for the first 500,000 chairs sold new. The game industry needs to get over itself. IMO if a game company wants me to buy a game new and keep it they should do what Alan Wake did. Let it be known that their is DLC in the works and include a free voucher in new copies of the game. Give us an incentive to buy your game new and keep it instead of trying punish us for buying it used. I wonder how many more people would've kept a game like God of War 3 if there was some free DLC right around the corner? But no, the game industry wants to have it's cake and eat it too.
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I'm trading in RDR today. Maybe if R* would figure out a way to vary the missions outside of the typical "go here, go there, fight, return here" mission type I would have finished or kept it. They need to take a lesson from Infamous IMO. Instead of uselessly dragging you from one location to the next Infamous would open up otherwise inaccessible locations that played out more like a linear level. You get the best of both worlds. RDR is a good game and would be excellent if it were your first R* game. However considering it is little more than a GTA clone with a western setting that 95 metacritic score is comical and IMO an embarrassment to the industry. As far as the whole trade in debate goes, it's hard to feel bad for game developers when you read about 36 million dollar BONUSES and exotic sports car collections. What makes them think they are above any other product (cars, DVD's, CD's, lawnmowers, ect.)? I've never heard of John Deer complaining about used lawnmowers or Lazy Boy only including the recliner arm for their rocking chairs for the first 500,000 chairs sold new. The game industry needs to get over itself. IMO if a game company wants me to buy a game new and keep it they should do what Alan Wake did. Let it be known that their is DLC in the works and include a free voucher in new copies of the game. Give us an incentive to buy your game new and keep it instead of trying punish us for buying it used. I wonder how many more people would've kept a game like God of War 3 if there was some free DLC right around the corner? But no, the game industry wants to have it's cake and eat it too.FerdMertz

Honestly, the game was one of the highest rated of all time and yet you want rockstar to change the whole game just to fit your specifications. It's fine as it is. There is plenty of variation in the game.

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[QUOTE="kejigoto"]I'll never understand that really, how people will run out and pick up a game and within a week it's already got plenty of used copies sitting on the shelf. I think people buy it, play through it as quickly as possible, and then trade it back in so they can get the most and some how they feel like they are playing the system since technically they didn't pay $65 to get the game. Either way though, I never trade games in. The first game I took to Gamestop in a number of years was Elder Scrolls IV just this last week because I got the Game of the Year Edition dirt cheap on Amazon and thus I didn't need the original anymore. I got like $5.25 for it and just put it towards a pre-order. So unless I end up double buying a game, it's not going anywhere. I don't care how bad it is or anything like that, cause you never know when you might want to play something or someone you know will want to give it a whirl. Plus I enjoy collecting games and I'm looking at 2 full bookshelves of game, I'm rather content.

If you really want to play the system you would buy a used copy and then return it for the full price within the time limit given.
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I'm trading in RDR today. Maybe if R* would figure out a way to vary the missions outside of the typical "go here, go there, fight, return here" mission type I would have finished or kept it.FerdMertz

That's my biggest complaint with the game. I'm not sure how far through I am, but I'm already bored of the story missions, and I find myself having much more fun with the side stuff and playing free roam with friends.

As for the topic, new copies of the game were completely sold out where I live last weekend, in all 4 stores I looked in. There was one used copy which I could have bought but decided to wait until I could buy a new copy instead.

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I haven't seen it used at the gamestops or play n trades here, then again its selling like wildfie here in Chicago, everyone and there mother seems to have a copy of it.k

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i know a couple of people who didnt want to deal with glitches and turned it.....before we discovered installin it to the harddrive fixed most of them

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#25 RyanShazam
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I had a point in my life where i traded in all of my 360 games that i know i wouldn't play anymore... I went from 35 games to about 5 lol

That allowed me to buy many games i want and that i will actually play.

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#26 urbhead
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bless the ppl that trade in games! thx to them im enjoying RDR now. why pay $65 for new a game thats sitting next to the same one thats used for $10 less? im not poor but i dont have $ to burn either
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Modnation Racers was used after 2 days where I live. It happens to every game.
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I think it is totally understandable to sell Your game that soon. Maybe the buyer did not want to buy the game for such a price, but figured that if he would sell it afterwards it would just be doable.
How many used copies were they selling? I don't think it could form a problem.

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#29 Mark36111
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bless the ppl that trade in games! thx to them im enjoying RDR now. why pay $65 for new a game thats sitting next to the same one thats used for $10 less?urbhead
Because everyone here thinks that game publishers are more entitled to your money than you are. Think of "the industry."

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#30 successful19
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well, after playing through the single player, theres no reason to keep it....rdr has one of the worst m.p this gen

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[QUOTE="Squall18"]

Thats one thing I never understand about gamestop customers, they'll get a game and trade it in right away.

I NEVER trade in a game unless it's completely not my style. I think out ofthe 75 games I have for PS3/Wii/360, I've traded in a total of 6 games.

tehsystemwarior

Only reason I trade games in is because I need to money for more games and I'm sick of the games being traded in. For example, yesterday I needed a wireless adapter for my 360 (my laptop to xbox connection mysteriously conked out) and I got 18 dollars for 3 games I don't play anymore. (MoH airborne, GRAW 2, and Bully SE, my fav game of all time, but i still have it for the ps2.)



why don't you get a job instead of supporting robbery.

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#32 positivebalance
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well, after playing through the single player, theres no reason to keep it....rdr has one of the worst m.p this gen

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Thats one thing I never understand about gamestop customers, they'll get a game and trade it in right away.

I NEVER trade in a game unless it's completely not my style. I think out ofthe 75 games I have for PS3/Wii/360, I've traded in a total of 6 games.

Squall18
why would you trade in at all with craigslist and ebay around. Gamestop is a ripoff
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That's good news. I enjoy buying games for cheap.
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Red Dead Redemption $49.99 used at some Gamestop stores. Less then two weeks after the game came out.

No wonder devs/pubs get pissed. The game hasn't even had a full month to amass sales and Gamestop is already selling it at $10 less then new. That's even cheaper then the $5 off for a new used game they usually pull.

Regardless of consumer rights arguments, it's tough to say the developers and publishers have no issue to be pissed about IMO, even if you don't agree with how they try to combat this.

Metalscarz

Are the devs gonna be pissed at the retailers who sell it brand new to me for $39? That's how much I paid for it legitimately on day one.

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#36 mccoyca112
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Im already getting gta4 syndrome so I cant say Im surprised. I was thinking of trading it in myself.

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A few people sell it off cause they don't like it and trade it in as soon as possible get the most they're going to get out of it. The longer you wait the lower the resale value goes so if you instantly don't like it you're best to turn it in right away. I think the trade in price for RDR is $30, but if you add in certain trade in bonuses you can get more. Also keep in mind some of these copies are from kids who didn't buy the game in the first place.

The other lot of people that sell new games to GS are those w/ stolen copies either from a retail store or even somebody's house. Even w/ GS checking ID and such the chances of somebody being able to claim game is indeed the stolen copy is slim.

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Developers everywhere are shutting down left and right, or are losing money. Do you not read the headlines on this very site? Ubisoft, and even EA are LOSING money.

Incentives to buy new is a way for them to maximize revenue streams for games that cost many millions + to make. Period.

If all you care for is a bargain then keep buying used, I couldn't care less.

But pretending the developers have nothing to be pissed off at when they are making less then they would if there was someway to stop, or delay used game sales is silly. Do you really think these companies care about you and bargain hunting? Especially if you buy used? Why should they?

And about trying to "deny" poorer people? Who's talking about denying anyone? Used game sale will not stop, even if devs can devalue them.

I'm saying that it's no wonder they are pissed when a big name game is being recyled at maximum profit for the MIDDLE MAN, so soon after release. No wonder they are trying to devalue used games. I would if I was them as well.

Metalscarz

Publishers closing down has nothing to do with used games.

Instead of blaming used games for their hundreds of millions of losses they might actually want do deal with the real issues before it's too late.

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why don't you get a job instead of supporting robbery.

positivebalance

Sp buying a used game is supporting robbery now?

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#40 delta3074
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[QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"][QUOTE="Squall18"]

Thats one thing I never understand about gamestop customers, they'll get a game and trade it in right away.

I NEVER trade in a game unless it's completely not my style. I think out ofthe 75 games I have for PS3/Wii/360, I've traded in a total of 6 games.

positivebalance

Only reason I trade games in is because I need to money for more games and I'm sick of the games being traded in. For example, yesterday I needed a wireless adapter for my 360 (my laptop to xbox connection mysteriously conked out) and I got 18 dollars for 3 games I don't play anymore. (MoH airborne, GRAW 2, and Bully SE, my fav game of all time, but i still have it for the ps2.)



why don't you get a job instead of supporting robbery.

maybe he has a job, but like me has a family to support, it's pretty stupid logic to assume that just bcause somebody cannot afford games full price that they somehow don't have a job, i suggest very strongly you does some research into what the word 'robbery' actually means, because buying and selling things does not equate to stealing, not in any shape or form, denying somebody 'potential' sales is not stealing.
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#41 SgtKevali
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Red Dead Redemption is one game where I don't think people should really buy it used.

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#42 forza420
Member since 2010 • 1225 Posts

Red Dead Redemption is one game where I don't think people should really buy it used.

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why?
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#43 jasonharris48
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I'm getting rid of my copy on Ebay. It isn't because I dislike the title personally I thought it was great. It is just after I get 100% I have no intention of playing it again.

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#44 DragonfireXZ95
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I'm getting rid of my copy on Ebay. It isn't because I dislike the title personally I thought it was great. It is just after I get 100% I have no intention of playing it again.

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Weird how no one plays the multiplayer, it's actually not that bad. Only thing that disappointed me was the lack of customization options.
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#45 delta3074
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I'm getting rid of my copy on Ebay. It isn't because I dislike the title personally I thought it was great. It is just after I get 100% I have no intention of playing it again.

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you got 100%, kudos, is it true you have to do all the gang hideouts in under 24 hours to get 100%
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#46 zbdyx
Member since 2007 • 2055 Posts
I love my copy but I can see why people are trading it in. I know a lot of people who have the platinum but aren't digging the multi-player.
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#47 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

I'm getting rid of my copy on Ebay. It isn't because I dislike the title personally I thought it was great. It is just after I get 100% I have no intention of playing it again.

DragonfireXZ95

Weird how no one plays the multiplayer, it's actually not that bad. Only thing that disappointed me was the lack of customization options.

I clocked in five hours in the multi-player mode. It isn't bad I just do not see my self playing th multi-player modes too much.

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#48 GeneralShowzer
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Why not just support the developers instead of buying used copies? You're not saving more than 10$. Rockstar took a big risk with this game, it's probably the most ambitious game this year. Too bad it won't make back it's budget, mainly because of stuff like this.
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#49 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Red Dead Redemption is one game where I don't think people should really buy it used.

forza420

why?

I dunno, I just feel that the makers deserve every penny they can get for this wonderful game.

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#50 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

I'm getting rid of my copy on Ebay. It isn't because I dislike the title personally I thought it was great. It is just after I get 100% I have no intention of playing it again.

delta3074

you got 100%, kudos, is it true you have to do all the gang hideouts in under 24 hours to get 100%

Not yet I'm in the process. I'm currently at 76.4% with 25hrs and 20 mins clocked in. Also no you do not have to clear all the gang hideouts within 24hrs.