Red Orchestra Heroes Of Stalingrad will be denied...

Red Orchestra 2 looks amazing period! But it wont get the attention it deserves because its PC exclusive. If it were on console the game would be hyped like crazy and advertised all over the place. All the consoles exclusives will be praised and games like COD will be hyped then get high score reviews just from that alone. While Red Orchestra will be amazing gameplay wise and end up being played for the next decayed.

It happens all the time with PC games. Mount and Blade got a 6.0 from gamespot saying "Mount & Blade has some innovative ideas, but still needs a lot of work." Despite it having best real life combat system seen in a game and getting a 8.7 from 2,772 user votes.... It needs work? O silly me graphics ofc.

Red Orchestra Heroes Of Stalingrad will be the best game in 2011, and one of the best FPS games this GEN!

Nothing to do with it being a PC exclusive. It just doesn't have mass appeal. Loads of PC games are popular and sell in the millions.

Red Orchestra is too realistic for most, they'd rather the semi realism, unbalanced COD titles.

It will be a great game, indeed. Also will enjoy the campaign in the eyes of a German soldier

Anyone who's interested at a full walkthrough of the game should watch this video. It looks outstanding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkk3SiywLHI&feature=player_embedded

Tripwire Interactive. One of the few developers I actually respect these days.

Well then maybe it's time to make a console version too? :P

Anyway, what Snooze said + RO:HoS does not look much different to the original RO (except for better graphics and some minor improvements).

Well then maybe it's time to make a console version too? :P

Anyway, what Snooze said + RO:HoS does not look much different to the original RO (except for better graphics and some minor improvements).

nameless12345

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Well then maybe it's time to make a console version too? :P

Anyway, what Snooze said + RO:HoS does not look much different to the original RO (except for better graphics and some minor improvements).

Brownesque

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Well then maybe it's time to make a console version too? :P

Anyway, what Snooze said + RO:HoS does not look much different to the original RO (except for better graphics and some minor improvements).

Brownesque

Lets see: bandagig/beedouts - Arma 2? Destructible terrain - Battlefield Bad Company 2? Progression class system - Enemy Territory? Fully modeled tank interiors - Operation Flashpoint? Internal ballistics - Solider of Fortune? Adjustible weapon sights - Sniper Elite?

I'm not saying HoS won't be a good game, but I'm yet to see how the single-player mode turns out and just how big the improvements will be.

Sorry welfare gamers :lol:

Red Orchestra 2 looks amazing period! But it wont get the attention it deserves because its PC exclusive. If it were on console the game would be hyped like crazy and advertised all over the place. All the consoles exclusives will be praised and games like COD will be hyped then get high score reviews just from that alone. While Red Orchestra will be amazing gameplay wise and end up being played for the next decayed.

It happens all the time with PC games. Mount and Blade got a 6.0 from gamespot saying "Mount & Blade has some innovative ideas, but still needs a lot of work." Despite it having best real life combat system seen in a game and getting a 8.7 from 2,772 user votes.... It needs work? O silly me graphics ofc.

Red Orchestra Heroes Of Stalingrad will be the best game in 2011, and one of the best FPS games this GEN!

mattuk69

Why would console gamers want to play a game like RO? SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Well then maybe it's time to make a console version too? :P

Anyway, what Snooze said + RO:HoS does not look much different to the original RO (except for better graphics and some minor improvements).

nameless12345

Lets see: bandagig/beedouts - Arma 2? Destructible terrain - Battlefield Bad Company 2? Progression class system - Enemy Territory? Fully modeled tank interiors - Operation Flashpoint? Internal ballistics - Solider of Fortune? Adjustible weapon sights - Sniper Elite?

I'm not saying HoS won't be a good game, but I'm yet to see how the single-player mode turns out and just how big the improvements will be.

Your argument is invalid. Your original point was that the sequel had little improvement on its predecessor. Then when you had been shown to be factually incorrect, you argue that none of its improvements are original. But therin lies the problem with your argument, an improvement is an improvement regardless of whether or not given improvements are original. What other games do have no bearing on the sequel. There is a disconnect there. The sequel has plenty of improvements, as has been demonstrated to you.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"] Minor improvements? You have no idea what you're talking about. They're adding bandaging/bleedouts, destructible terrain, a progression class system, fully modeled tank interiors, internal ballistics in both tanks and people (e.g. shots to the heart versus shots to the lung), and adjustible weapon sights. If any of those features made it into any other game it would be hailed as a great new change to the series.organic_machine

Lets see: bandagig/beedouts - Arma 2? Destructible terrain - Battlefield Bad Company 2? Progression class system - Enemy Territory? Fully modeled tank interiors - Operation Flashpoint? Internal ballistics - Solider of Fortune? Adjustible weapon sights - Sniper Elite?

I'm not saying HoS won't be a good game, but I'm yet to see how the single-player mode turns out and just how big the improvements will be.

Your argument is invalid. Your original point was that the sequel had little improvement on its predecessor. Then when you had been shown to be factually incorrect, you argue that none of its improvements are original. But therin lies the problem with your argument, an improvement is an improvement regardless of whether or not given improvements are original. What other games do have no bearing on the sequel. There is a disconnect there. The sequel has plenty of improvements, as has been demonstrated to you.

He (or she) said that no games had these features and I proven him (or her) wrong ;)

Mount and Blade warband with mods is AAA

He (or she) said that no games had these features and I proven him (or her) wrong ;)nameless12345

False.

Original quote:

If any of those features made it into any other game it would be hailed as a great new change to the series.Brownesque

And he's right. When those features ARE included in games, they are praised as great new change releative to the series. You brought up the case of BC2, perfect example. When dextructible terrain was introduced, people praised it as a bold innovation for the battlfield series.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]He (or she) said that no games had these features and I proven him (or her) wrong ;)organic_machine

False.

Original quote:

If any of those features made it into any other game it would be hailed as a great new change to the series.Brownesque

And he's right. When those features ARE included in games, they are praised as great new change releative to the series. You brought up the case of BC2, perfect example. When dextructible terrain was introduced, people praised it as a bold innovation for the battlfield series.

Still that doesn't mean that RO:HoS will be the first to have them ;)

Still that doesn't mean that RO:HoS will be the first to have them ;)

nameless12345

Nobody thinks it does. What I think is special with RO, is that it has that specific LIST of features. Sure, each one indivdually has been done before, but few games have all of them. And even less do it the way that RO does.

Nothing original, just evolutionary.

Mount and Blade Review: "So open-ended that the game lacks almost any semblance of structure Too many dead-end villages and boring quests, especially early in the game A lot of little bugs and oddities" Thats why it got 6.0 biggest_loser

Yet Oblivion got a 9.3.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Mount and Blade Review: "So open-ended that the game lacks almost any semblance of structure Too many dead-end villages and boring quests, especially early in the game A lot of little bugs and oddities" Thats why it got 6.0 DraugenCP

Yet Oblivion got a 9.3.

Owned. Review scores are garbage. Always have been. There is no such thing is a honest review from a mainstream website.

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

Mount and Blade Review: "So open-ended that the game lacks almost any semblance of structure Too many dead-end villages and boring quests, especially early in the game A lot of little bugs and oddities" Thats why it got 6.0 biggest_loser

Yet Oblivion got a 9.3.

Owned. Review scores are garbage. Always have been. There is no such thing is a honest review from a mainstream website.

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

Yet Oblivion got a 9.3.

locopatho

Owned. Review scores are garbage. Always have been. There is no such thing is a honest review from a mainstream website.

I dont care at all what Red Orchestra gets. Especially from this website. What makes you think I do? I haven't cared about review scoers since early 2010, when I realized reviewers are full of ****

The only reviews that matter are from respectable fan sites of the game. For example, one of the few opinions that are worth listening to about Starcraft 2 would be team liquid.

I'm sorry, but this game wouldn't sell on consoles specifically because it won't play like Halo or CoD.

I'm sorry, but this game wouldn't sell on consoles specifically because it won't play like Halo or CoD.

Raymundo_Manuel

I'm sorry, but this game wouldn't sell on consoles specifically because it won't play like Halo or CoD.

Raymundo_Manuel

Awful lot of people in this thread generalising console gamers....Ravensmash

False.

Original quote:

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]If any of those features made it into any other game it would be hailed as a great new change to the series.Ravensmash

And he's right. When those features ARE included in games, they are praised as great new change releative to the series. You brought up the case of BC2, perfect example. When dextructible terrain was introduced, people praised it as a bold innovation for the battlfield series.

Still that doesn't mean that RO:HoS will be the first to have them ;)

nobody said it would be the first..only that it would be a great improvement in the series.

^ How did my name end up in that quote? :PRavensmash

^ How did my name end up in that quote? :PRavensmash

I have no idea how that happened :lol:

And the reason why people are saying this game would do poorly on the consoles is because you can't shoot from the hip and get a 6 kill streak:P I personally would like to see a game like this on the console to see how the community reacts to it.

for the most part pc games get no attention. If its on consoles it will get way more hype. Pc is just not as main steam as console gaming. My people who play on games only play low end games for 2 years untill their own board cards cant run the games anymore.

It's games like these that I hope developers are taking notes from. Hell, a lot of people are claiming console gamers want nothing but killstreaks and regenerating health. I'm sure console gamers would give this game a chance if given the opportunity.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

for the most part pc games get no attention. If its on consoles it will get way more hype. Pc is just not as main steam as console gaming. My people who play on games only play low end games for 2 years untill their own board cards cant run the games anymore.

Remmib

You are speaking out of your anus.

It's games like these that I hope developers are taking notes from. Hell, a lot of people are claiming console gamers want nothing but killstreaks and regenerating health. I'm sure console gamers would give this game a chance if given the opportunity.

D00nut

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

for the most part pc games get no attention. If its on consoles it will get way more hype. Pc is just not as main steam as console gaming. My people who play on games only play low end games for 2 years untill their own board cards cant run the games anymore.

Remmib

You are speaking out of your anus.

No hes not. That's the way it is overall in the US.

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

for the most part pc games get no attention. If its on consoles it will get way more hype. Pc is just not as main steam as console gaming. My people who play on games only play low end games for 2 years untill their own board cards cant run the games anymore.

lawlessx

You are speaking out of your anus.

You ever heard of StarCraft 2? Exactly.

Some PC games do not get the same amount of attention as some console games, but to state that PC games get no attention is just stupid.

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

for the most part pc games get no attention. If its on consoles it will get way more hype. Pc is just not as main steam as console gaming. My people who play on games only play low end games for 2 years untill their own board cards cant run the games anymore.

glez13

You are speaking out of your anus.

No hes not. That's the way it is overall in the US.

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="Remmib"]

You are speaking out of your anus.

Arach666

No hes not. That's the way it is overall in the US.

all your base are belong to us!

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Remmib"]

You are speaking out of your anus.

Remmib

You ever heard of StarCraft 2? Exactly.

Some PC games do not get the same amount of attention as some console games, but to state that PC games get no attention is just stupid.

[QUOTE="D00nut"]

It's games like these that I hope developers are taking notes from. Hell, a lot of people are claiming console gamers want nothing but killstreaks and regenerating health. I'm sure console gamers would give this game a chance if given the opportunity.

Nintendo_Ownes7

Guess we'll have to wait for risky developers/publishers to bring new ideas to the table.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Lets see: bandagig/beedouts - Arma 2? Destructible terrain - Battlefield Bad Company 2? Progression class system - Enemy Territory? Fully modeled tank interiors - Operation Flashpoint? Internal ballistics - Solider of Fortune? Adjustible weapon sights - Sniper Elite?

I'm not saying HoS won't be a good game, but I'm yet to see how the single-player mode turns out and just how big the improvements will be.

nameless12345

Your argument is invalid. Your original point was that the sequel had little improvement on its predecessor. Then when you had been shown to be factually incorrect, you argue that none of its improvements are original. But therin lies the problem with your argument, an improvement is an improvement regardless of whether or not given improvements are original. What other games do have no bearing on the sequel. There is a disconnect there. The sequel has plenty of improvements, as has been demonstrated to you.

He (or she) said that no games had these features and I proven him (or her) wrong ;)

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

False.

Original quote:

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]If any of those features made it into any other game it would be hailed as a great new change to the series.nameless12345

And he's right. When those features ARE included in games, they are praised as great new change releative to the series. You brought up the case of BC2, perfect example. When dextructible terrain was introduced, people praised it as a bold innovation for the battlfield series.

Still that doesn't mean that RO:HoS will be the first to have them ;)