reliability wars- xbox 360 vs ps3

first and foremost i don't actually own a next gen console so im un-bias, when this next gen console war first broke out the ps3 was clearly the most reliable. but a few year's on it's clear the ps3 is starting to fail more- i personally think this is the first ps3 console's to be released as they are a few years old now. but while the xbox 360 reliability was a joke when it first came out, it seam's the 360 is alot more reliable now. i personally think the ps3 is still the most reliable by a fair margin. but what does gamespot think and why?

your profile contradicts your post. explain

but in your profile you say you have a 360 and ps3 o.o

your profile contradicts your post. explain

dog_dirt

first and foremost i don't actually own a next gen console so im un-bias, when this next gen console war first broke out the ps3 was clearly the most reliable. but a few year's on it's clear the ps3 is starting to fail more- i personally think this is the first ps3 console's to be released as they are a few years old now. but while the xbox 360 reliability was a joke when it first came out, it seam's the 360 is alot more reliable now. i personally think the ps3 is still the most reliable by a fair margin. but what does gamespot think and why?

dan123collins

oh my god! can we just play games please :cry:

rrod enough said.InfiniteBlak

[QUOTE="dan123collins"]

first and foremost i don't actually own a next gen console so im un-bias, when this next gen console war first broke out the ps3 was clearly the most reliable. but a few year's on it's clear the ps3 is starting to fail more- i personally think this is the first ps3 console's to be released as they are a few years old now. but while the xbox 360 reliability was a joke when it first came out, it seam's the 360 is alot more reliable now. i personally think the ps3 is still the most reliable by a fair margin. but what does gamespot think and why?

LEGEND_C4A

oh my god! can we just play games please :cry:

they are CEOs, and they dont play games.

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[QUOTE="dan123collins"]

first and foremost i don't actually own a next gen console so im un-bias, when this next gen console war first broke out the ps3 was clearly the most reliable. but a few year's on it's clear the ps3 is starting to fail more- i personally think this is the first ps3 console's to be released as they are a few years old now. but while the xbox 360 reliability was a joke when it first came out, it seam's the 360 is alot more reliable now. i personally think the ps3 is still the most reliable by a fair margin. but what does gamespot think and why?

oajlu

oh my god! can we just play games please :cry:

they are CEOs, and they dont play games.

My 360 is currently in for repairs from RROD, if that gives any indication towards how I feel.

rrod enough said.InfiniteBlak

That will hurt the 360 legacy forever I admit but the new chipset failure rate is equivalent to a normal console like PS3 and Wii. So RROD is no problem for 360s after 2007

[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]rrod enough said.Funconsole

That's not a war, more like a court order.

[spoiler] SERVED [/spoiler]

My problem w/ sony is that their products tend to break right after warranty. The ps1, ps2, and now it seems the ps3 all have a tendancy to break after you can't get them fixed for free. I also remember the ps2 lost a class action lawsuit, and still charged users after they were told repairs would be free.

W/out a doubt this gen the 360 has been unreliable, but MS has been pretty good about fixing peoples consoles, and making sure their customers are happy. I think YLOD is just the tip of the iceberg for the ps3, and as time goes on it'll escalate into a total $#!@storm.

[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]rrod enough said.Funconsole

[QUOTE="Funconsole"][QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]rrod enough said.toast_burner

Both are bad.

They are the proof on how cheaply manufactured consoles are, hello high lead solders.

The 360 only breaks early due to the edram snapping out due to the eat, again hello high lead solders.

In similar fashion to the failing nvidia gpu's (g84 and g86) eutectic solders would have solved the problem, since they resist to higher temperatures (60/70 ºC, 140/158F)

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Funconsole"] YLOD enough said. Major_Reeves

Both are bad.

They are the proof on how cheaply manufactured consoles are, hello high lead solders.

The 360 only breaks early due to the edram snapping out due to the eat, again hello high lead solders.

In similar fashion to the failing nvidia gpu's (g84 and g86) eutectic solders would have solved the problem, since they resist to higher temperatures (60/70 ºC, 140/158F)

Wait... You have a Gamertag and PSN ID.

Suspicious...

first and foremost i don't actually own a next gen console so im un-bias.

dan123collins

Stopped reading right there

[QUOTE="dan123collins"]

first and foremost i don't actually own a next gen console so im un-bias, when this next gen console war first broke out the ps3 was clearly the most reliable. but a few year's on it's clear the ps3 is starting to fail more- i personally think this is the first ps3 console's to be released as they are a few years old now. but while the xbox 360 reliability was a joke when it first came out, it seam's the 360 is alot more reliable now. i personally think the ps3 is still the most reliable by a fair margin. but what does gamespot think and why?

LEGEND_C4A

oh my god! can we just play games please :cry:

[QUOTE="Major_Reeves"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"] Are you really trying to imply that YLOD is as bad as RROD? toast_burner

Both are bad.

They are the proof on how cheaply manufactured consoles are, hello high lead solders.

The 360 only breaks early due to the edram snapping out due to the eat, again hello high lead solders.

In similar fashion to the failing nvidia gpu's (g84 and g86) eutectic solders would have solved the problem, since they resist to higher temperatures (60/70 ºC, 140/158F)

Read, "edram".

Without being technical, if the 360 didn't had the edram it would have the same failure rate of the ps3.

Also I don't know why sony's still using heatspreaders on both rsx and cell, I guess they like to show those logos saying "Cell", "RSX" and sony computer entertainment" on shiny aluminium instead of having the die in direct contact with cooling surface for a more efficient cooling.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Major_Reeves"]

Both are bad.

They are the proof on how cheaply manufactured consoles are, hello high lead solders.

The 360 only breaks early due to the edram snapping out due to the eat, again hello high lead solders.

In similar fashion to the failing nvidia gpu's (g84 and g86) eutectic solders would have solved the problem, since they resist to higher temperatures (60/70 ºC, 140/158F)

Read, "edram".

Without being technical, if the 360 didn't had the edram it would have the same failure rate of the ps3.

Also I don't know why sony's still using heatspreaders on both rsx and cell, I guess they like to show those logos saying "Cell", "RSX" and sony computer entertainment" on shiny aluminium instead of having the die in direct contact with cooling surface for a more efficient cooling.

[QUOTE="Major_Reeves"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Major_Reeves"]

Both are bad.

They are the proof on how cheaply manufactured consoles are, hello high lead solders.

The 360 only breaks early due to theedramsnapping out due to the eat, again hello high lead solders.

In similar fashion to the failing nvidia gpu's (g84 and g86)eutectic solders would have solved the problem, since they resist to higher temperatures(60/70 ºC, 140/158F) High lead solders suffer a lot at these temperatures and the way the edram is placed make it a fragile component

toast_burner

Read,"edram".

Without being technical, if the 360 didn't had the edram it would have the same failure rate of the ps3.

Also I don't know why sony's still using heatspreaders on both rsx and cell, I guess they like to show those logos saying "Cell", "RSX" and sony computer entertainment" on shiny aluminium instead of having the die in direct contact with cooling surface for a more efficient cooling.

I've highlightedwhat you need to know about both YOLD and RROD, if you still fail to understand I suggest visiting a professional (no offense).

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Major_Reeves"]

Read,"edram".

Without being technical, if the 360 didn't had the edram it would have the same failure rate of the ps3.

Also I don't know why sony's still using heatspreaders on both rsx and cell, I guess they like to show those logos saying "Cell", "RSX" and sony computer entertainment" on shiny aluminium instead of having the die in direct contact with cooling surface for a more efficient cooling.

I've highlightedwhat you need to know about both YOLD and RROD, if you still fail to understand I suggest visiting a professional (no offense).

So the manufacturing processes have nothing to do with the topic,

ok cool, you'll go far thinking like that.

Again, read my post, yes the one above yours. If you still think thats irrelevant,

please someone post you a facepalm.

So the manufacturing processes have nothing to do with the topic,

ok cool, you'll go far thinking like that.

PS3 unreliability has increased recently, however it's still nowhere near as unreliable as the Xbox 360.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"] So? im dont get your point. Because the 360 only gets RROD due to the edram that means rrod is just as bad as YLOD despite RROD being much more common? your logic makes no sense.toast_burner

I've highlightedwhat you need to know about both YOLD and RROD, if you still fail to understand I suggest visiting a professional (no offense).

Major Reeves is just telling you that both are cheaply manufactured. 360's failure rate is still worse but hes saying if it wasnt for edram both consoles would have equal failure rates.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Funconsole"] YLOD enough said. Major_Reeves

Both are bad.

They are the proof on how cheaply manufactured consoles are, hello high lead solders.

The 360 only breaks early due to the edram snapping out due to the eat, again hello high lead solders.

In similar fashion to the failing nvidia gpu's (g84 and g86) eutectic solders would have solved the problem, since they resist to higher temperatures (60/70 ºC, 140/158F)

While on the 360 board I simply touch the solder with the iron and it pretty much falls off. Not to mention the PS3 board is MUCH more organized.

rrod enough said.InfiniteBlak

YLoD and Bad Blu-ray diodes enough said..

It's 2009 not 2006.

i have both 360 and PS3. i am on my 2nd PS3, and 4th 360.

6th generation console>>>>>>>>>>>> 7th generation console.

first and foremost i don't actually own a next gen console so im un-bias, when this next gen console war first broke out the ps3 was clearly the most reliable. but a few year's on it's clear the ps3 is starting to fail more- i personally think this is the first ps3 console's to be released as they are a few years old now. but while the xbox 360 reliability was a joke when it first came out, it seam's the 360 is alot more reliable now. i personally think the ps3 is still the most reliable by a fair margin. but what does gamespot think and why?

dan123collins

How can the PS3 fail more with the slim, when it actually runs better and cooler than the original. If anything the 60GB PS3 is the one that has the most problems. As for the 360, it still RRODs fairly often.

[QUOTE="Funconsole"][QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]rrod enough said.InfiniteBlak

[QUOTE="Major_Reeves"]

Are you really trying to imply that YLOD is as bad as RROD? toast_burner

Both are bad.

They are the proof on how cheaply manufactured consoles are, hello high lead solders.

The 360 only breaks early due to the edram snapping out due to the eat, again hello high lead solders.

In similar fashion to the failing nvidia gpu's (g84 and g86) eutectic solders would have solved the problem, since they resist to higher temperatures (60/70 ºC, 140/158F)

While on the 360 board I simply touch the solder with the iron and it pretty much falls off. Not to mention the PS3 board is MUCH more organized.

[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]rrod enough said.Funconsole

i own both. and both broke. my 360 got E74 error. and my ps3 got yellow flashing lights aka yellow light of death.

so its a tie. but my 360 got fixed for free while my 60 gig ps3 is still setting there waiting for me to spend money on to fix it. so if i was to buy a system right now i would pick 360, because if something goes wrong i got 3 years before i have to pay for repairs.

Bought a 360 at launch lasted 8 months no warranty in garbage. Bought my 2nd 360 2 months later and its been in for repare 4x now. Im switching over to PS3 in FEB and will get a warranty and cant wait!

My 360 has RRoD'ed once a few months ago, I had it for a little over 1 year. My Ps3 hasn't died. I have a slim so it isn't that new.

My GPU of my PC died on me though. 2 years of overclocking with poor cooling will do that :(

My 360 has RRoD'ed once a few months ago, I had it for a little over 1 year. My Ps3 hasn't died. I have a slim so it isn't that new.

My GPU of my PC died on me though. 2 years of overclocking with poor cooling will do that :(

reliability wars? It is more like a reliability massacre, the PS3 is obviously way more reliable.

The PS3 has obviously been the most reliable console. The 360 is now more reliable, but early on they weren't.Doolz2024

[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]rrod enough said.OB-47

That will hurt the 360 legacy forever I admit but the new chipset failure rate is equivalent to a normal console like PS3 and Wii. So RROD is no problem for 360s after 2007

first and foremost i don't actually own a next gen console so im un-bias, when this next gen console war first broke out the ps3 was clearly the most reliable. but a few year's on it's clear the ps3 is starting to fail more- i personally think this is the first ps3 console's to be released as they are a few years old now. but while the xbox 360 reliability was a joke when it first came out, it seam's the 360 is alot more reliable now. i personally think the ps3 is still the most reliable by a fair margin. but what does gamespot think and why?

dan123collins

You need to wake up and face reality

Xbox 360 = 54% Failure Rate

PS3 = 10%

thread closed

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[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]rrod enough said.Dilrod

That will hurt the 360 legacy forever I admit but the new chipset failure rate is equivalent to a normal console like PS3 and Wii. So RROD is no problem for 360s after 2007

The new chipsets are way less likely to get RROD so I dont know what i said wrong