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#1 insanejedi
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Who makes the better one?

Fight!

Relic:

-Homeworld

-Warhammer 40k

-Company of Heroes

Blizzard:

-Starcraft

-Warcraft

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#2 Thompsonwhore
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I choose Relic simply for CoH. My favorite RTS. Starcraft I can see why people like, I just don't like it myself.
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#3 air_wolf_cubed
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Starcraft > All
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#4 senses_fail_06
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this thread really isn't fair because Blizzard hasn't released an RTS in over 5 years. Anyways they are both great, though I prefer Blizzard's offerings.
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#5 naval
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#6 insanejedi
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this thread really isn't fair because Blizzard hasn't released an RTS in over 5 years. Anyways they are both great, though I prefer Blizzard's offerings. senses_fail_06

Well that's their fault. Relic doesn't need 6 years in order to come out with a fantastic RTS.

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#7 Hexagon_777
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Blizzard's RTS games are definitely more friendly to the system than Relic's from what I can tell. :P
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#8 chadwardennn
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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]this thread really isn't fair because Blizzard hasn't released an RTS in over 5 years. Anyways they are both great, though I prefer Blizzard's offerings. insanejedi

Well that's their fault. Relic doesn't need 6 years in order to come out with a fantastic RTS.

It does need more years of u want to ensure ppl are gonna play it online years and years after its release with a very strong community. U cant say this for any game, i cant come up with any.

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#9 naval
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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]this thread really isn't fair because Blizzard hasn't released an RTS in over 5 years. Anyways they are both great, though I prefer Blizzard's offerings. insanejedi

Well that's their fault. Relic doesn't need 6 years in order to come out with a fantastic RTS.

well blizzard definitely take their time in releasing games, but they are not a RTS only devoloper

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#10 Thompsonwhore
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Blizzard's RTS games are definitely more friendly to the system than Relic's from what I can tell. :PHexagon_777
Company of Heroes is really fantastically optimized. Can play on Nvidia's 6000 series with good performance. You get like 300+ FPS with current hardware.
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#11 aliblabla2007
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Relic. They've made my 2 favourite RTSs of all time (with the 3rd being Rome: Total War from The Creative Assembly). However, Warcraft 3 is also in my top 5 list, so you can tell that I like Blizzard a lot, too.
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#12 yellowandmushy
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To be honest, Red Alert 3 looks better than both Dawn of War II and Starcraft II. :?
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#13 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]
Blizzard's RTS games are definitely more friendly to the system than Relic's from what I can tell. :PThompsonwhore

Company of Heroes is really fantastically optimized. Can play on Nvidia's 6000 series with good performance. You get like 300+ FPS with current hardware.


I was more referring to Warhammer 40k.

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#14 Thompsonwhore
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To be honest, Red Alert 3 looks better than both Dawn of War II and Starcraft II. :?yellowandmushy
I dislike C&C games.
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#15 Juggernaut140
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Company of Heroes/Daw of War>>>>>>>>>Starcraft

Especially since W40K owns Starcraft

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#16 insanejedi
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Company of Heroes/Daw of War>>>>>>>>>Starcraft

Especially since W40K owns Starcraft

Juggernaut140

Dude Starcraft is like jacked from Warhammer, so is Warcraft too!

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#17 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]

Company of Heroes/Daw of War>>>>>>>>>Starcraft

Especially since W40K owns Starcraft

insanejedi

Dude Starcraft is like jacked from Warhammer, so is Warcraft too!

I know. Starcraft was supposed to be an expansion for the Warhammer universe if I remember correctly.

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#18 freek666
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Company of Heroes/Daw of War>>>>>>>>>Starcraft

Especially since W40K owns Starcraft

Juggernaut140

I'm going with this.

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#19 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]

Company of Heroes/Daw of War>>>>>>>>>Starcraft

Especially since W40K owns Starcraft

freek666

I'm going with this.

d'awwwww thanks :oops:

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#20 aliblabla2007
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To be honest, Red Alert 3 looks better than both Dawn of War II and Starcraft II. :?yellowandmushy

This is Red Alert 3:

http://files.playstatic.com/xbox-360/command-and-conquer-red-alert-3/red-alert-3-screenshot-2.jpg

http://files.playstatic.com/xbox-360/command-and-conquer-red-alert-3/red-alert-3-screenshot-4.jpg

This is Dawn of War II:

http://www.gamoholic.net/images/stories/DawnofWar2/Dawn_of_War2_screen01.jpg

http://www.gamoholic.net/images/stories/DawnofWar2/Dawn_of_War2_screen03.jpg

This is Starcraft II:

http://starcraft2log.googlepages.com/screenshot5.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/b63cdy.jpg

But we all know the RTS graphics king anyway:

http://forum.i3d.net/attachments/main/7490d1189192399-eerste-screenshot-empire-total-war-53465.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r137/general_81/empire-total-war-20080416114834517.jpg

Empire: Total War. Just beautiful.

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#21 jaisimar_chelse
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Company of heroes poops over starcraft
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#22 Juggernaut140
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Company of heroes poops over starcraft jaisimar_chelse

Yup

Trying to flank tanks and building blockades for killzones is a lot more tactical than Zergling rushes any day.

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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]Company of heroes poops over starcraft Juggernaut140

Yup

Trying to flank tanks and building blockades for killzones is a lot more tactical than Zergling rushes any day.

only emipre total war can stop company of heroes .

dawn of war is more of a rpg than a rts.

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#25 ArisShadows
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You have two of the best RTSs ever, so why wouldnt it be Blizzard.

Starcraft and Warcraft.

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#26 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]Company of heroes poops over starcraft Juggernaut140

Yup

Trying to flank tanks and building blockades for killzones is a lot more tactical than Zergling rushes any day.

Lol, there is far more than Rushes.

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#27 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]

[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]Company of heroes poops over starcraft ArisShadows

Yup

Trying to flank tanks and building blockades for killzones is a lot more tactical than Zergling rushes any day.

Lol, there is far more than Rushes.

It all boils down to building a bigger army than your opponent.

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#28 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]

[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]Company of heroes poops over starcraft Juggernaut140

Yup

Trying to flank tanks and building blockades for killzones is a lot more tactical than Zergling rushes any day.

Lol, there is far more than Rushes.

It all boils down to building a bigger army than your opponent.

Not always, if you dont deversify your army, you leave yourself up with a ton of weaknesses.

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#29 Kez1984
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Relic.
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]

[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]Company of heroes poops over starcraft ArisShadows

Yup

Trying to flank tanks and building blockades for killzones is a lot more tactical than Zergling rushes any day.

Lol, there is far more than Rushes.

It all boils down to building a bigger army than your opponent.

Not always, if you dont deversify your army, you leave yourself up with a ton of weaknesses.

No, you invest all your money into building multipules of one single structure such as Factory's, Gateways, Stargates, ect. Spam one kind of unit (dragoon, Mutalisk, Golith) and hope to god that your oponent does not have (signifigant) numbers of the counter varity of unit. And those cases are rare such as Valkaries since they are a single purpose unit. If they do have the counter varity, refit your unit builders into building something else such as Seige Tanks, Hydrolisks, Zerglings, Templars, or Zelots and repeat.

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#31 plod2
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Relic all the way! I've never played any Blizzard games but Company of Heroes and Dawn of War are my favourite PC games.
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No, you invest all your money into building multipules of one single structure such as Factory's, Gateways, Stargates, ect. Spam one kind of unit (dragoon, Mutalisk, Golith) and hope to god that your oponent does not have (signifigant) numbers of the counter varity of unit. And those cases are rare such as Valkaries since they are a single purpose unit. If they do have the counter varity, refit your unit builders into building something else such as Seige Tanks, Hydrolisks, Zerglings, Templars, or Zelots and repeat.

insanejedi

Pretty much

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#33 ejstrup
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Blizzard by a mile. I still play WC3.
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#34 ArisShadows
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No, you invest all your money into building multipules of one single structure such as Factory's, Gateways, Stargates, ect. Spam one kind of unit (dragoon, Mutalisk, Golith) and hope to god that your oponent does not have (signifigant) numbers of the counter varity of unit. And those cases are rare such as Valkaries since they are a single purpose unit. If they do have the counter varity, refit your unit builders into building something else such as Seige Tanks, Hydrolisks, Zerglings, Templars, or Zelots and repeat.

insanejedi

Mass units can be easily countered by a few well placed lurkers, reavers, firebats, seiged tanks, antiair units, and so forth. Use a mix of Pyonic Storm, Swarm, Freeze, or so called abilities. You can to various things to prevent such occurences. Without a little variety, things can easily fall apart. It may not be the most complex game, but certianly you have to put a little more thought in it than that.

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#35 kc666
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For me Relic knocked out Blizzard with Dawn Of War, I've got it with all the expansions and its absolutely massive, well balanced, and very playable. I was hoping that WC3 will be a great game, well it is, but it didn't quite live up to the standard nowadays. I still hope that SC2 will regain supremacy in RTS, but on the other hand, beating even the first DOW will be a tough challenge, and DOW2 is coming ...
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For me Relic knocked out Blizzard with Dawn Of War, I've got it with all the expansions and its absolutely massive, well balanced, and very playable. I was hoping that WC3 will be a great game, well it is, but it didn't quite live up to the standard nowadays. I still hope that SC2 will regain supremacy in RTS, but on the other hand, beating even the first DOW will be a tough challenge, and DOW2 is coming ...kc666

Dawn of war isn't balanced.

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#37 anshul89
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Relic - CoH FTMFTW
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#38 jg4xchamp
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Relic.

Company of Heroes is Awesome

Hard...but awesome.
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#39 jg4xchamp
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You have two of the best RTSs ever, so why wouldnt it be Blizzard.

Starcraft and Warcraft.

ArisShadows
because games like Homeworld and Company of Heroes have earned there spot with those 2 games

Not in terms of how long people have played them(Blizzards' games were always awesome in that repsect).
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#40 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

You have two of the best RTSs ever, so why wouldnt it be Blizzard.

Starcraft and Warcraft.

jg4xchamp

because games like Homeworld and Company of Heroes have earned there spot with those 2 games

Not in terms of how long people have played them(Blizzards' games were always awesome in that repsect).

Yeah, I know, I played both those games and own the whole series of COH, but neither gave me the amount of time and enjoyment put into said games.

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#41 mo0ksi
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Relic doesn't just pound Blizzard to the ground in terms of RTS', but they just throw them out the window and out of the competition.

But I still think WC3 is excellent.
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#42 -DrRobotnik-
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Relic FTW!!
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#43 Erlkoenig
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Probably half of the posters on these forums weren't around or gaming on PC when Starcraft came out (10 years ago). I can see why they pick Relic. It's just about the games we grow up playing. WC3 is not very noob-friendly and didn't attract as large a crowd so Blizzard's presence in the RTS scene hasn't been much. But that'll change soon.
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#44 angelkimne
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I choose Blizzard.
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To be honest, Red Alert 3 looks better than both Dawn of War II and Starcraft II. :?yellowandmushy

Ewwwww, no it doesnt, its just another generic C&C , the beta was appauling aswell, no doubt itl get alot of attention for be C&C though :S

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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]To be honest, Red Alert 3 looks better than both Dawn of War II and Starcraft II. :?PC360Wii

Ewwwww, no it doesnt, its just another generic C&C , the beta was appauling aswell, no doubt itl get alot of attention for be C&C though :S

I'd take Empire : Total War over all.
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I'll take Blizzard please.

Starcraft >>> All other RTS combined!

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#48 Notsogr8one
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WC and DoW own. Hmm... I think I like WC better though so Blizzard wins
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[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"]To be honest, Red Alert 3 looks better than both Dawn of War II and Starcraft II. :?PC360Wii

Ewwwww, no it doesnt, its just another generic C&C , the beta was appauling aswell, no doubt itl get alot of attention for be C&C though :S

now now, C&C was the first game to allow control of dogs, TW tried to copy but they could never live up mass production kennels and dog rushes (wtf is a zerg).

to insult such a game is blasphemy, as its more entertaining than all of your "serious" games with there lame units without time travel and cyborg commandos, wtf is up with that.