Remember when people made fun of MGS4's subpar graphics?

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#1 signore
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I remember people on these forums (mostly 360 fanboys of course) continuously pointing out how average and poor the graphics for MGS4 were going to be. Now that the game is out,,, they were proved completely wrong. Its easily one of the best looking console games ever made

So what happened to all the haters?

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#2 TBoogy
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I remember people on these forums (mostly 360 fanboys of course) continuously pointing out how average and poor the graphics for MGS4 were going to be. Now that the game is out,,, they were proved completely wrong. Its easily one of the best looking console games ever made

So what happened to all the haters?

signore


We still hate it...

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#3 BioShockOwnz
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I still thinks it looks just alright. There are a bunch of bad textures in the game. Definitely far from the most impressive thing on consoles. Critics were surviving on hype alone. Some said it was the best of the best on consoles, some said it looked better or as good as Crysis. :roll: These are the people we laugh at.
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#4 chikenfriedrice
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still has bad textures...other than that it's a nice looking game
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#5 balindos
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I remember people on these forums (mostly 360 fanboys of course) continuously pointing out how average and poor the graphics for MGS4 were going to be. Now that the game is out,,, they were proved completely wrong. Its easily one of the best looking console games ever made

So what happened to all the haters?

signore

I have no clue what you are talking about. That is because I have a 360 and I have never play a MGS, well I have played a Microsoft Game Studio game. Well good for you and enjoy. I think there is nothing but haters and negetive people in this section.

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#6 DireOwl
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I still thinks it looks just alright. There are a bunch of bad textures in the game. Definitely far from the most impressive thing on consoles. Critics were surviving on hype alone. Some said it was the best of the best on consoles, some said it looked better or as good as Crysis. :roll: These are the people we laugh at. BioShockOwnz

Seriously, Metal Gear Fever is making some PS3 fan-boys delirious!

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#7 manicfoot
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It is a great looking game. Though from a techincal perspective I think Uncharted beats it. Then again with MGS4 it isn't ALL about the graphics. The music, the atmosphere and the voice acting all merge together and create something beautiful.

The only graphical glitch I've found is the flickering shadows but that isn't a big deal. At least there isn't screen tearing like there is in other PS3 games...

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#8 Riverwolf007
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Sure I remember it, it was like fourty- five different times today.
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#9 signore
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the videos online (especially on game trailers) do the game no justice, its a much better lookin game than those vids show. Just throwing that out there to ppl who made judgements without actually seeing the game live
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#10 thejakel11225
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best graphics i've seen on a console really, it ain't no crysis but it has it's jaw dropping moments too.
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#11 balindos
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Do you guys really judge a game on little textures? Come on. I judge it by, IS IT FUN TO PLAY? Yes or No. Textures hahahaha. Amazing how picky people can be. I think gameplay is the only real factor in a game. Graphics are just icying on the top.
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#12 jack_michael
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i still think assasins' is the graphic king for consoles.

but mgs4 aint far behind.

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#13 signore
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best graphics i've seen on a console really, it ain't no crysis but it has it's jaw dropping moments too.thejakel11225

how many average people can actually play crysis at its best? even so, MGS4 is a 10X better game anyways

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Do you guys really judge a game on little textures? Come on. I judge it by, IS IT FUN TO PLAY? Yes or No. Textures hahahaha. Amazing how picky people can be. I think gameplay is the only real factor in a game. Graphics are just icying on the top.balindos

I was watching almost as much as I was playing, so that's a hard question to answer.

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Do you guys really judge a game on little textures? Come on. I judge it by, IS IT FUN TO PLAY? Yes or No. Textures hahahaha. Amazing how picky people can be. I think gameplay is the only real factor in a game. Graphics are just icying on the top.balindos

he is talking about graphics and graphics only so of course we will nit pick..it's not the best looking console game

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#16 insanejedi
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Hermits are still going like "CRYSIS MAKEZ IT LOOKZ LIKE DUMB!!!"
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#17 EVOLV3
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MGS4's graphics are underrated
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#18 SSCyborg
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I say 576p!
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#19 Gamersince81
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I still thinks it looks just alright. There are a bunch of bad textures in the game. Definitely far from the most impressive thing on consoles. Critics were surviving on hype alone. Some said it was the best of the best on consoles, some said it looked better or as good as Crysis. :roll: These are the people we laugh at. BioShockOwnz

Please name me ONE console game that has better in game graphics than *SPOILER ALERT* Act 3 chase scene in real time? Please name a console game, ill wait lol.

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[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]best graphics i've seen on a console really, it ain't no crysis but it has it's jaw dropping moments too.signore

how many average people can actually play crysis at its best? even so, MGS4 is a 10X better game anyways

you're so wrong, MGS4 is a 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999X better game than crysis

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#21 Gamersince81
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MGS4's graphics are underratedEVOLV3

Bingo. GEARS has better textures but it looks like crap compared to MGS4. Noobs must understand textures are not everything.

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#22 LEGEND_C4A
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I remember people on these forums (mostly 360 fanboys of course) continuously pointing out how average and poor the graphics for MGS4 were going to be. Now that the game is out,,, they were proved completely wrong. Its easily one of the best looking console games ever made

So what happened to all the haters?

signore

oh brother, you are no better than the haters with all this petty BullS***

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#23 The_Crucible
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i still think assasins' is the graphic king for consoles.

but mgs4 aint far behind.

jack_michael
Yeesh. Really?
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MGS4 the best looking game will ever be this gen Xbots are so danm jealousy that there console will not ever have a game that good looking as MGS4 :D

SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!

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#25 crunchUK
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no it's not it looks quite bad.
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#26 thejakel11225
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no it's not it looks quite bad.crunchUK

did you play it?

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#27 Toriko42
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Assassin's Creed is a better looking game if you ask me
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#28 jack_michael
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[QUOTE="jack_michael"]

i still think assasins' is the graphic king for consoles.

but mgs4 aint far behind.

The_Crucible

Yeesh. Really?

yeah, i dont know about you but mgs4s character models looks plasticy.

mind you im not saying AC is a better game or anything.

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#29 white_sox
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I just refer these people to the first line in the review - "Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made."

[QUOTE="balindos"]Do you guys really judge a game on little textures? Come on. I judge it by, IS IT FUN TO PLAY? Yes or No. Textures hahahaha. Amazing how picky people can be. I think gameplay is the only real factor in a game. Graphics are just icying on the top.BioShockOwnz

I was watching almost as much as I was playing, so that's a hard question to answer.

It shouldn't be that hard. If you remember correctly you gave it a ten.

Yes, both are 10's, imo.

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#30 TREAL_Since
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MGS4 has the best graphics on consoles period.
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I just refer these people to the first line in the review - "Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made."

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="balindos"]Do you guys really judge a game on little textures? Come on. I judge it by, IS IT FUN TO PLAY? Yes or No. Textures hahahaha. Amazing how picky people can be. I think gameplay is the only real factor in a game. Graphics are just icying on the top.white_sox

I was watching almost as much as I was playing, so that's a hard question to answer.

It shouldn't be that hard. If you remember correctly you gave it a ten.

Yes, both are 10's, imo.

BioShockOwnz

Sorry... this isn't some kind of "ownage" thread. We've had all those debates. Now it's time to be honest with yourself and myself, and the entire SW's community, and honestly, MGS4 is not the best looking game. I could see if you have some SDTV that doesn't accurately portray the lazy texture work, but on my HDTV, this game isn't king. Sorry.

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#32 dbzfreak
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The haters are still here and haven't actually sat down through a decent gaming session with MGS4 to soak it all in, so they still bash it based on screenshots. That and people are just jealous it's not on their system. Lemmings would jump and down with glee if it was announced for 360.
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#33 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]MGS4's graphics are underratedGamersince81

Bingo. GEARS has better textures but it looks like crap compared to MGS4. Noobs must understand textures are not everything.

Yeah. There are some low-res textures but overall the texture art and diversity stunning. Especially considering how big the game is.

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#34 deleted_basic
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The character models, and animation are top-notch but everything else is quite 'meh'
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#35 dabear
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I remember people on these forums (mostly 360 fanboys of course) continuously pointing out how average and poor the graphics for MGS4 were going to be. Now that the game is out,,, they were proved completely wrong. Its easily one of the best looking console games ever made

So what happened to all the haters?

signore
I don't care what GS & IGN say - MGS4 does not look that great to me. Mass Effect, Bioshock, Lair, Uncharted, GeOW all look better to me.
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#36 crunchUK
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[QUOTE="crunchUK"]no it's not it looks quite bad.thejakel11225

did you play it?

indeed. and i can safely say "WTF is up with this game's crappy visuals?" xbox1 looked as good as that. :(

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#37 lolkie_81
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I still thinks it looks just alright. There are a bunch of bad textures in the game. Definitely far from the most impressive thing on consoles. Critics were surviving on hype alone. Some said it was the best of the best on consoles, some said it looked better or as good as Crysis. :roll: These are the people we laugh at. BioShockOwnz

Another great insightful non biased post by bioshock.

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#38 skektek
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I'm not too far in the game (I just beat Laughing Octopus) but so far I don't think the graphics are that great.
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#39 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="white_sox"]

I just refer these people to the first line in the review - "Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made."

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="balindos"]Do you guys really judge a game on little textures? Come on. I judge it by, IS IT FUN TO PLAY? Yes or No. Textures hahahaha. Amazing how picky people can be. I think gameplay is the only real factor in a game. Graphics are just icying on the top.BioShockOwnz

I was watching almost as much as I was playing, so that's a hard question to answer.

It shouldn't be that hard. If you remember correctly you gave it a ten.

Yes, both are 10's, imo.

BioShockOwnz

Sorry... this isn't some kind of "ownage" thread. We've had all those debates. Now it's time to be honest with yourself and myself, and the entire SW's community, and honestly, MGS4 is not the best looking game. I could see if you have some SDTV that doesn't accurately portray the lazy texture work, but on my HDTV, this game isn't king. Sorry.

Funny because on my HDTV, MGS4 is king. And lazy texture work? The texture design and implementation is amazing (not to mention more varied than almost any game I've ever played). Some low-res textures don't ruin the overall graphical package. Whatever happened to lighting, animation, character/object models, level design, and particle effects.

If you (in general) complain about anything it should be the fire effects which IMO is the least impressive of the visuals.

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#40 lolkie_81
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[QUOTE="white_sox"]

I just refer these people to the first line in the review - "Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made."

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="balindos"]Do you guys really judge a game on little textures? Come on. I judge it by, IS IT FUN TO PLAY? Yes or No. Textures hahahaha. Amazing how picky people can be. I think gameplay is the only real factor in a game. Graphics are just icying on the top.BioShockOwnz

I was watching almost as much as I was playing, so that's a hard question to answer.

It shouldn't be that hard. If you remember correctly you gave it a ten.

Yes, both are 10's, imo.

BioShockOwnz

Sorry... this isn't some kind of "ownage" thread. We've had all those debates. Now it's time to be honest with yourself and myself, and the entire SW's community, and honestly, MGS4 is not the best looking game. I could see if you have some SDTV that doesn't accurately portray the lazy texture work, but on my HDTV, this game isn't king. Sorry.

Its like you own a ps3, mgs4 and gave it a 10, just so you would have a free pass to bash it and the ps3. I have seen you bash this game countless times, when I called you out on it you said " what do you mean? I gave it a 10. Look at my reviews"

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#41 kostmpekir
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I remember people on these forums (mostly 360 fanboys of course) continuously pointing out how average and poor the graphics for MGS4 were going to be. Now that the game is out,,, they were proved completely wrong. Its easily one of the best looking console games ever made

So what happened to all the haters?

signore

I have the game, and graphics are totally mediocre, the levels are empty bar some grass blades, it is so funny, those graphics are 7/10 max

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#42 GUNpoint_
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I still thinks it looks just alright. There are a bunch of bad textures in the game. Definitely far from the most impressive thing on consoles. Critics were surviving on hype alone. Some said it was the best of the best on consoles, some said it looked better or as good as Crysis. :roll: These are the people we laugh at. BioShockOwnz
for once, i actually agree with you. MGS4 had great animation & what not, but it was far from the best. Bioshock, Uncharted, & even R&C:ToD look better then MGS4.
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#43 thejakel11225
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[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]no it's not it looks quite bad.crunchUK

did you play it?

indeed. and i can safely say "WTF is up with this game's crappy visuals?" xbox1 looked as good as that. :(

ya know most of the time i would respect peoples opinions, but these are just plain out lies man, don't be such a fanboy.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I still thinks it looks just alright. There are a bunch of bad textures in the game. Definitely far from the most impressive thing on consoles. Critics were surviving on hype alone. Some said it was the best of the best on consoles, some said it looked better or as good as Crysis. :roll: These are the people we laugh at. GUNpoint_
for once, i actually agree with you. MGS4 had great animation & what not, but it was far from the best. Bioshock, Uncharted, & even R&C:ToD look better then MGS4.

And I agree with you. All those games are more visually impressive. R&C: ToD is very overlooked in the graphical department. It's a great looking game, especially the first level.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"lolkie_81

Sorry... this isn't some kind of "ownage" thread. We've had all those debates. Now it's time to be honest with yourself and myself, and the entire SW's community, and honestly, MGS4 is not the best looking game. I could see if you have some SDTV that doesn't accurately portray the lazy texture work, but on my HDTV, this game isn't king. Sorry.

Its like you own a ps3, mgs4 and gave it a 10, just so you would have a free pass to bash it and the ps3. I have seen you bash this game countless times, when I called you out on it you said " what do you mean? I gave it a 10. Look at my reviews"

Hmm...fishy. You know BioShock, I remember debating with you last year and you said that Halo 3 was better than MGS4 (well before it even came out, kinda unfair :?). Period. Not the exact quote, but it came directly after the GS review. I'm sure you like MGS4, but not as much as your review/rating makes it out to see.

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#47 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"TREAL_Since

Sorry... this isn't some kind of "ownage" thread. We've had all those debates. Now it's time to be honest with yourself and myself, and the entire SW's community, and honestly, MGS4 is not the best looking game. I could see if you have some SDTV that doesn't accurately portray the lazy texture work, but on my HDTV, this game isn't king. Sorry.

Its like you own a ps3, mgs4 and gave it a 10, just so you would have a free pass to bash it and the ps3. I have seen you bash this game countless times, when I called you out on it you said " what do you mean? I gave it a 10. Look at my reviews"

Hmm...fishy. You know BioShock, I remember debating with you last year and you said that Halo 3 was better than MGS4 (well before it even came out, kinda unfair :?). Period. Not the exact quote, but it came directly after the GS review. I'm sure you like MGS4, but not as much as your review/rating makes it out to see.

Actually, I don't like Halo 3. Probably just backing up the review from the fanboy horde that trashed Gamespot and said they were bribed. Many lems here know how much I don't like Halo 3, even if it's a good game.

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#48 killab2oo5
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We still hate it...

TBoogy
I LoLed. Anywhos...I haven't seen the game in motion but judging by the screens it's not amazingly good,but around average.. I'm gonna look up some HD gameplay vids sooner than later so I can see all the effects in action.
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#49 The_Crucible
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MGS4 the best looking game will ever be this gen Xbots are so danm jealousy that there console will not ever have a game that good looking as MGS4 :D

SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!

kratos_q80

Dude. Slow down a little bit. At least check your grammar. "Xbots are so danm jealousy"???? Huh?

And I do, personally, think the PS3 is more powerful than the 360. I do believe that PS3 will excel over the 360 in this regard. But I wouldn't be so blind as to say that 360 will never have a title look as good as MGS4. I wouldn't even be so blind to say that PS3, for sure, will hold an edge in graphics.

My point? I can have my opinion on this as much as I want and you can to. But stating unknowns as fact, especially in a boastful manner like yours, is nothing but a drag on these forums.

here endeth the lesson......

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#50 lolkie_81
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I honestly think it looks better than uncharted, I never cared for uncharted graphics anyway. I also think gears looks better than uncharted, so I guess its all just peoples opinion's. When games look fantastic and have different art styles, it turns in to preference.