Report: Nintendo Thinks It Has Won, Sees Apple As Enemy

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#1 SecretPolice
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Hmm, I really didn't think "N" would be worried about Apple but it appears at the highest level, they are.

You think they should be worried and how about them declaring victory over Sony ?

Oh and shall the Apple fans on SW be called.....

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http://kotaku.com/5533329/report-nintendo-thinks-it-has-won-sees-apple-as-enemy

Console wars decided. A rival comes into view. Time to buckle down, because things seem poised for a shake up.

While Wii sales might have been down 21 percent last year, Nintendo still saw its third best year in the history of the company.

According to the Times Online, sources close to Nintendo's Japanese headquarters "describe a mood of concern as the hardware and software divisions race to restore the capacity to 'surprise'."

The Nintendo 3DS was supposed to be Nintendo's big E3 surprise, but Nintendo hastily issued a bland press release in order to head off Japanese reporters from breaking the news first. Nintendo has not officially shown the Nintendo 3DS. According to one report, the new glasses-free portable will be out this October.

What's more, the Times Online reports that Nintendo Satoru Iwata apparently told his senior executives to view the console war with Sony as won and to regard Apple with its iPhone and iPad machines as the "enemy of the future". The irony is that when Nintendo launched the DS Lite, the company seemed to take its design and marketing cues from Apple.

As the Times Online points out, Nintendo claimed two years ago that it had made Nintendo converts of high school girls and men aged between 30 and 40; however, those girls are now reported to be more interested in having an Apple iPhone than a Nintendo DS. You can call people on an iPhone. You can also email people. And watch feature films and television shows. And listen to thousands of songs.

You can play video games on an iPhone, too.

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#2 Animal-Mother
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Damn straight apple should be seen as the enemy.

Look at the propaganda!

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It's so hard to call. Nintendo has made an art of outselling and outlasting other handhelds which were much more powerful and better. I bought the gamegear over the gameboy as a kid. The iPhone though is a phone and a gaming handheld. Though it's not a great handheld yet. Based on Steve Jobs video gaming past, I don't see how it will not become a better one.
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#4 me_rock
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No one can say that Nintendo hasn't won. They've destroyed everyone in terms of sales with the Wii and DS.

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3DS Phone confirmed.
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#6 killB_O_T
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He has a point, out of all the gaming devices I own (360/Wii/DS) the one i would play the most games on would be my iPhone (Currently FF1 and Earthworm Jim). Cheap plus portable gaming equals a problem for Nintendos handheld stranglehold.

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#7 Cruse34
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They have one I think we all know that did you guys see their profit against sonys earlir this week?

Apple is a threat, but they have to take the first step towards a war

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yes nintendo should be afraid, be very afraid *insert evil grin here*..and you want us to call Apple fanboys roast pork?
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I don't think anybody is choosing between Nintendo products and Apple products. Maybe Nintendo is going to enter the phone biz.

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apple is going down

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No one can say that Nintendo hasn't won. They've destroyed everyone in terms of sales with the Wii and DS.

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Sales don't mean everything. I don't see games like Dragon Age, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, God of War etc on Wii.
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Can we call apple fanboys worms? Because, like, there is that apple & worm relationship, and like, it has to be derogatory in some way.

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I think that worms is a very good term for Apple fanboys lol Good job, you may have started something here!
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#14 SecretPolice
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Can we call apple fanboys worms? Because, like, there is that apple & worm relationship, and like, it has to be derogatory in some way.

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More derogatory then Pigs ? And it seems to fit better with the farm animal stuff. tehe

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It makes sense. The DS thoroughly clobbered the PSP, so the iTouch and iPad are the new targets that need to be taken down.

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.. By winnin you mean exceeding profit expectations then yes.. Outside of that, there is little in which we would call "won".
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[QUOTE="me_rock"]

No one can say that Nintendo hasn't won. They've destroyed everyone in terms of sales with the Wii and DS.

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Sales don't mean everything. I don't see games like Dragon Age, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, God of War etc on Wii.

Well I agree sales are not everything. Then again this topic is about the sales of games and consoles. Not which games are on what system.
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#18 spence1988
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It makes sense. The DS thoroughly clobbered the PSP, so the iTouch and iPad are the new targets that need to be taken down.

JAB991
In all fairness, the PSP is the first handheld console that has actually put up a decent fight against the DS, and hey - just because it sold more, doesn't mean its better either lol The iTouch and iPad can't even support that many actual "real" games other than software you get for the DSi and PSP Mini section, so I don't think theres a reason to "fear" apple for anyone.
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[QUOTE="JAB991"]

It makes sense. The DS thoroughly clobbered the PSP, so the iTouch and iPad are the new targets that need to be taken down.

spence1988
In all fairness, the PSP is the first handheld console that has actually put up a decent fight against the DS, and hey - just because it sold more, doesn't mean its better either lol The iTouch and iPad can't even support that many actual "real" games other than software you get for the DSi and PSP Mini section, so I don't think theres a reason to "fear" apple for anyone.

Based on Steve Jobs past of making games. I say it's only a matter of time though before the iTouch becomes a better handheld. It's going to need some redesigns though to make it a better gaming system.
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[QUOTE="JAB991"]

It makes sense. The DS thoroughly clobbered the PSP, so the iTouch and iPad are the new targets that need to be taken down.

spence1988
In all fairness, the PSP is the first handheld console that has actually put up a decent fight against the DS, and hey - just because it sold more, doesn't mean its better either lol The iTouch and iPad can't even support that many actual "real" games other than software you get for the DSi and PSP Mini section, so I don't think theres a reason to "fear" apple for anyone.

The PSP did put up a good fight when compared to past competitors Nintendo faced in the handheld department. True. While I think the DS library is stronger, both Sony and Nintendo are probably more on finances, which would make sense for Nintendo to not worry about Sony anymore. I think the Apple fear may just be because it's brand new and popular. It wouldn't be terribly surprising if the iTouch became a big gaming system. I don't think it would outdue the DS, but if it starts posing any sort of threat Nintendo would probably want to put their focus towards defeating it,
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[QUOTE="spence1988"][QUOTE="JAB991"]

It makes sense. The DS thoroughly clobbered the PSP, so the iTouch and iPad are the new targets that need to be taken down.

HarlockJC
In all fairness, the PSP is the first handheld console that has actually put up a decent fight against the DS, and hey - just because it sold more, doesn't mean its better either lol The iTouch and iPad can't even support that many actual "real" games other than software you get for the DSi and PSP Mini section, so I don't think theres a reason to "fear" apple for anyone.

Based on Steve Jobs past of making games. I say it's only a matter of time though before the iTouch becomes a better handheld. It's going to need some redesigns though to make it a better gaming system.

It's also going to need hardware games, not just downloadable software. GameStops wouldn't stock the PSPGo because of this and they sure as hell won't stock the iSystems. If Gamestop sees the iWhatever becoming a threat to the DS and the DS' used games market, they're going to start pushing hard for more DS sells, which could do huge things for Nintendo.
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[QUOTE="me_rock"]

No one can say that Nintendo hasn't won. They've destroyed everyone in terms of sales with the Wii and DS.

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Sales don't mean everything. I don't see games like Dragon Age, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, God of War etc on Wii.

Sales didn't mean much for Sony either huh? 100 Million+ consoles, worse hardware last gen, probably had the best games but criticism is subjective, while sales are solid in proof in the pudding. Not saying that I didn't love PS2(was my favorite console last gen, PS3 is my favorite this gen, with Wii in a distant 2nd place) but is makes me mad when there is this bias in sales now that Nintendo is on top. Fact is, Nintendo is the winner this gen, technology of the console doesn't make what gen a console is, as long as they run concurrent within the release of the named gen(this is 7th gen, Wii is a 7th gen console despite being weaker) And simple fact is, if you're number one in sales in this console war, you're the winner, it's funny how much the rules have changed since 2006 since Sony is in last place. And cows feel no one else is deserving of their elusive 2 gens long 1st place run. I agree, games mean a lot. But for Wii I can say Madworld No More Heroes 1 and 2 De Blob Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 Red Steel 2 Medal Of Honor Heroes 2 Metroid Prime 3 Monster Hunter 3 Mario Kart Wii New Super Mario Bros Wii Twilight Princess(even though me myself dispute this one, the Wii version is the better version in my eyes) SSBB Super Paper Mario Boom Blocks Modern Warfare: Reflex and many more, and jut because you haven't heard about them, or played them, I'm rating them from a Wii players standpoint and not from Xbox360 or PS3 standards. They're still good games. All Cows and Lemmings do is name a bunch of obvious blockbuster hits(mainstream games, that every person with PS3 or 360 that calls them selves a gamer). I really still hope that PS3 and 360 fanboys don't think all their sales are coming exclusively from hardcore games, because sales would be much worse. Eh, even my 10 year old little girl cousin asked for and got a Halo 3 edition 360 for Christmas a few years ago, and she sucks at gaming.
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[QUOTE="JAB991"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="spence1988"] In all fairness, the PSP is the first handheld console that has actually put up a decent fight against the DS, and hey - just because it sold more, doesn't mean its better either lol The iTouch and iPad can't even support that many actual "real" games other than software you get for the DSi and PSP Mini section, so I don't think theres a reason to "fear" apple for anyone.

Based on Steve Jobs past of making games. I say it's only a matter of time though before the iTouch becomes a better handheld. It's going to need some redesigns though to make it a better gaming system.

It's also going to need hardware games, not just downloadable software. GameStops wouldn't stock the PSPGo because of this and they sure as hell won't stock the iSystems. If Gamestop sees the iWhatever becoming a threat to the DS and the DS' used games market, they're going to start pushing hard for more DS sells, which could do huge things for Nintendo.

Will people stop calling that thing an iTouch, it's called the iPod Touch, official name, nowhere is the thing called an iTouch, not even on the packaging. I hate that name, hipsters made that up.
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[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"][QUOTE="JAB991"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] Based on Steve Jobs past of making games. I say it's only a matter of time though before the iTouch becomes a better handheld. It's going to need some redesigns though to make it a better gaming system.

It's also going to need hardware games, not just downloadable software. GameStops wouldn't stock the PSPGo because of this and they sure as hell won't stock the iSystems. If Gamestop sees the iWhatever becoming a threat to the DS and the DS' used games market, they're going to start pushing hard for more DS sells, which could do huge things for Nintendo.

Will people stop calling that thing an iTouch, it's called the iPod Touch, official name, nowhere is the thing called an iTouch, not even on the packaging. I hate that name, hipsters made that up.

I'll stop saying "iTouch" when people stop saying "Wiimote."
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[QUOTE="JAB991"][QUOTE="DazedDarkness"][QUOTE="JAB991"] It's also going to need hardware games, not just downloadable software. GameStops wouldn't stock the PSPGo because of this and they sure as hell won't stock the iSystems. If Gamestop sees the iWhatever becoming a threat to the DS and the DS' used games market, they're going to start pushing hard for more DS sells, which could do huge things for Nintendo.

Will people stop calling that thing an iTouch, it's called the iPod Touch, official name, nowhere is the thing called an iTouch, not even on the packaging. I hate that name, hipsters made that up.

I'll stop saying "iTouch" when people stop saying "Wiimote."

I'll do that for you bro, I don't say Wiimote. I don't know why that bugs me. It's a colloquialism, and I hate it. The thing is trademarked as iPod Touch, I hope apple doesn't cave in and end up naming it "iTouch". I get real a(i don't think can say that here, even in the non sexual context) over stuff like that.
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For the sake of hardcore gaming, I hope the iX (where x = apple device) fails as a gaming device. While I love me some mac (been switched over from PC for almost a year now), I don't like their attitude for the gaming market - they'll end up diluting the market to the casual point of no return lol
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[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

Can we call apple fanboys worms? Because, like, there is that apple & worm relationship, and like, it has to be derogatory in some way.

SecretPolice

More derogatory then Pigs ? And it seems to fit better with the farm animal stuff. tehe

Nah.. neither of them. Apple is flashy. Oh, and their products are expensive as hell. So... if Apple fanboys are going to be called something.. it should be something flashy and expensive.

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

Can we call apple fanboys worms? Because, like, there is that apple & worm relationship, and like, it has to be derogatory in some way.

wapahala

More derogatory then Pigs ? And it seems to fit better with the farm animal stuff. tehe

Nah.. neither of them. Apple is flashy. Oh, and their products are expensive as hell. So... if Apple fanboys are going to be called something.. it should be something flashy and expensive.

Peacock? (I still think Worm is the best fit)
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BigMacs? lol Big Spenders? A-Holes? iMoney iTards iCash iWorms iTools iRich
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apple is going down

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[QUOTE="me_rock"]

No one can say that Nintendo hasn't won. They've destroyed everyone in terms of sales with the Wii and DS.

PandaBear86

Sales don't mean everything. I don't see games like Dragon Age, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, God of War etc on Wii.

why would you see God of War on the Wii? its owned by Sony

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[QUOTE="JAB991"][QUOTE="DazedDarkness"] Will people stop calling that thing an iTouch, it's called the iPod Touch, official name, nowhere is the thing called an iTouch, not even on the packaging. I hate that name, hipsters made that up. DazedDarkness
I'll stop saying "iTouch" when people stop saying "Wiimote."

I'll do that for you bro, I don't say Wiimote. I don't know why that bugs me. It's a colloquialism, and I hate it. The thing is trademarked as iPod Touch, I hope apple doesn't cave in and end up naming it "iTouch". I get real a(i don't think can say that here, even in the non sexual context) over stuff like that.

I use a Wiimote to control my iTouch. I like to make calls on my i3GS, while playing on my X360 using a Wiimote..... have I driven you mad yet? :P
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makes sense... Nintendo severly outsold sony and ms... the only one left in the arena is apple, which happens to target just about the same demographics, albeit, a little more hipster-ish

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It's so hard to call. Nintendo has made an art of outselling and outlasting other handhelds which were much more powerful and better. I bought the gamegear over the gameboy as a kid. The iPhone though is a phone and a gaming handheld. Though it's not a great handheld yet. Based on Steve Jobs video gaming past, I don't see how it will not become a better one. HarlockJC

Matt Casamassina is head of game apps store. That's how :P

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]It's so hard to call. Nintendo has made an art of outselling and outlasting other handhelds which were much more powerful and better. I bought the gamegear over the gameboy as a kid. The iPhone though is a phone and a gaming handheld. Though it's not a great handheld yet. Based on Steve Jobs video gaming past, I don't see how it will not become a better one. kontejner44

Matt Casamassina is head of game apps store. That's how :P

.... and? Matt has terrible taste in games.
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It would be fairer for him to snipe at the competion once the 360 and PS3 throw their own casual grabbing toys into the mix.
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#37 The_Game21x
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Well, I don't think there's a "think" involved. Nintendo has won this generation.

As far as Apple being their enemy, well, Apple has been pushing the gaming capabilities of the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad pretty hard as of late so there may be some truth to that.

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If I were Nintendo I wouldn't feel like a winner until I had the best games and gaming lineup on my system. Maybe I'm just too hard on myself.:?

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It would be fairer for him to snipe at the competion once the 360 and PS3 throw their own casual grabbing toys into the mix.tomarlyn
That my friend is the correct question / answer.

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