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#1 g805ge
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RfMcpn0Cc

This video is old but he's spot on about everything here. Indeed that most people on the internet are whiny nitpickers who just seem to hate for the sake of hating.

He's even right about Halo, even though it's overrated the game does a lot of things right in the console FPS department and it's extremely well made game. Resistance series is almost as good as the Halo series and people nitpick that game apart too for the sake of hating.

However there's one thing I disagree with him, I wouldn't say Halo was the first console FPS done right as that honor belongs to AVP for the Atari Jaguar but Halo did improve the console FPS departmen to make waves for other great console FPS like Resistance.

Check out his reviews, he's one of the few good game reviewers on YouTube.

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Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?
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Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?StarGalaxyTHE
60 player online
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Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?StarGalaxyTHE
plz explain

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I really wish GameSpot would do a word filter for the term "overrated". That phrase is so overused and such a useless qualifier...
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?RTUUMM
60 player online

So, is that a great achievement now..........?
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?RTUUMM
60 player online

Good answer.
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#8 g805ge
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Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?StarGalaxyTHE
What Resistance did is being a very good console FPS like Halo. Games don't have to do anything groundbreaking to be fun, look at Dead Space for example.

Microsoft fanboy much?

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What did Resistance do?StarGalaxyTHE
Became the only worth playing game at launch for the PS3.
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[QUOTE="RTUUMM"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?StarGalaxyTHE
60 player online

So, is that a great achievement now..........?

Is regenerating health? Why is what one game does great while what the other does is trivial?

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#11 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?g805ge

What Resistance did is being a very good console FPS like Halo. Games don't have to do anything groundbreaking to be fun, look at Dead Space for example.

Microsoft fanboy much?

Yeah, a "very good console FPS" compared to Sony's other FPS', maybe.
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?RTUUMM
60 player online

8 player coop was pretty good too..
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="RTUUMM"] 60 player onlineSpruceCaboose

So, is that a great achievement now..........?

Is regenerating health? Why is what one game does great while what the other does is trivial?

Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. Resistance doesn't have the guts to do anything as groundbreaking.
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#14 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?StarGalaxyTHE

What Resistance did is being a very good console FPS like Halo. Games don't have to do anything groundbreaking to be fun, look at Dead Space for example.

Microsoft fanboy much?

Yeah, a "very good console FPS" compared to Sony's other FPS', maybe.

Reviewers seem to have a different opinion than you do. Same goes for many PS3 owners.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] So, is that a great achievement now..........?StarGalaxyTHE

Is regenerating health? Why is what one game does great while what the other does is trivial?

Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. Resistance doesn't have the guts to do anything as groundbreaking.

Halo did not save FPS on anything. FPS games were on consoles before, and would have been on consoles after. Hyperbole hurts your case, it does not help it.

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#16 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="g805ge"]What Resistance did is being a very good console FPS like Halo. Games don't have to do anything groundbreaking to be fun, look at Dead Space for example. Microsoft fanboy much?SpruceCaboose
Yeah, a "very good console FPS" compared to Sony's other FPS', maybe.

Reviewers seem to have a different opinion than you do. Same goes for many PS3 owners.

Yeah, when was the last time a Resistance game scored 9.5 - 10 at GameSpot or got a GR score around 95 % or was so big that perhaps movies failed due to it, sold through over 3M in 24 hours or had 1 million unique daily players 2 years after launch?
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#17 g805ge
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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?StarGalaxyTHE

What Resistance did is being a very good console FPS like Halo. Games don't have to do anything groundbreaking to be fun, look at Dead Space for example.

Microsoft fanboy much?

Yeah, a "very good console FPS" compared to Sony's other FPS', maybe.

Definitely M$ fanboy.

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#18 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Is regenerating health? Why is what one game does great while what the other does is trivial?

SpruceCaboose

Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. Resistance doesn't have the guts to do anything as groundbreaking.

Halo did not save FPS on anything. FPS games were on consoles before, and would have been on consoles after. Hyperbole hurts your case, it does not help it.

Yes, it did. FPS gaming would have died out if not Halo would have come. Your just mad it was Halo.
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#19 g805ge
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Is regenerating health? Why is what one game does great while what the other does is trivial?

SpruceCaboose

Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. Resistance doesn't have the guts to do anything as groundbreaking.

Halo did not save FPS on anything. FPS games were on consoles before, and would have been on consoles after. Hyperbole hurts your case, it does not help it.

Halo was the first console FPS to use good dual analog controls and A.I. for console FPS and it also help save the Xbox. :P

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] So, is that a great achievement now..........?StarGalaxyTHE

Is regenerating health? Why is what one game does great while what the other does is trivial?

Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. Resistance doesn't have the guts to do anything as groundbreaking.

did you miss the park where he said 60 player, maybe you missheard him and thought he said 6 player, 60 player online on a console game is damn groundbreaking, especially since they pulled it off with very little to no lag
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Is regenerating health? Why is what one game does great while what the other does is trivial?linkin_guy109
Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. Resistance doesn't have the guts to do anything as groundbreaking.

did you miss the park where he said 60 player, maybe you missheard him and thought he said 6 player, 60 player online on a console game is damn groundbreaking, especially since they pulled it off with very little to no lag

Sorry, 60 players is nothing, otherwise, a lot of ppl would have played RE right now, years after launch, SORRY!
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] Yeah, when was the last time a Resistance game scored 9.5 - 10 at GameSpot or got a GR score around 95 % or was so big that perhaps movies failed due to it, sold through over 3M in 24 hours or had 1 million unique daily players 2 years after launch?

So the only good FPS games are the ones that eclipse Halo 3? That is silly at the very least, and at worst is borderline fanboy.
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#23 warmaster670
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Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?StarGalaxyTHE

Cant save something that was never dying, there were plenty of good console FPS before and up to halo coming out.

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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] Yes, it did. FPS gaming would have died out if not Halo would have come. Your just mad it was Halo.

I am a huge Halo fanboy, so I don't know who you think you are talking to, but FPS games have been around for decades. Its insane to think that all of a sudden they would have ceased to exist due to a single game.
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#25 StarGalaxyTHE
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Resistance - 60 players co-op better than majority of Sony's FPS Halo - 1.7 million preorders in US from retailers 2.5 million US day 1 sales 1.1 million unique gamers online first day a movie failed because of Halo's success 170 million uS dollar day 1 300M week 1 2 years after release, ~1 million unique gamers 9.5 at GameSpot, AAA++ on GR
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Halo was the first console FPS to use good dual analog controls and A.I. for console FPS and it also help save the Xbox. :Pg805ge
This is much closer to reality than what StarGalaxyTHE is spewing.
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] Yes, it did. FPS gaming would have died out if not Halo would have come. Your just mad it was Halo.SpruceCaboose
I am a huge Halo fanboy, so I don't know who you think you are talking to, but FPS games have been around for decades. Its insane to think that all of a sudden they would have ceased to exist due to a single game.

Agreed, saying that Halo saved the FPS genre is complete BS. To me, it just showed that you could have a smoother FPS experience control wise on a console.

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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Resistance - 60 players co-op better than majority of Sony's FPS Halo - 1.7 million preorders in US from retailers 2.5 million US day 1 sales 1.1 million unique gamers online first day a movie failed because of Halo's success 170 million uS dollar day 1 300M week 1 2 years after release, ~1 million unique gamers 9.5 at GameSpot, AAA++ on GR

And your point is? Yes, Halo 3 sold well. Yes it scored well. Its a great game. That does not make other great games less great. It just makes them not as commercially successful, which is a whole different topic.
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Resistance - 60 players co-op better than majority of Sony's FPS Halo - 1.7 million preorders in US from retailers 2.5 million US day 1 sales 1.1 million unique gamers online first day a movie failed because of Halo's success 170 million uS dollar day 1 300M week 1 2 years after release, ~1 million unique gamers 9.5 at GameSpot, AAA++ on GR

those numbers only equal to one thing the game was massively hyped, the add campaign for halo 3 was ridiculous, thats the reason for the preorders, thats the reason for the sales, thats the reason for the gamers online
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Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?StarGalaxyTHE
60 player online, huge scale in bosses, and a story and character I actually care about.
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#31 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Resistance - 60 players co-op better than majority of Sony's FPS Halo - 1.7 million preorders in US from retailers 2.5 million US day 1 sales 1.1 million unique gamers online first day a movie failed because of Halo's success 170 million uS dollar day 1 300M week 1 2 years after release, ~1 million unique gamers 9.5 at GameSpot, AAA++ on GR

And your point is? Yes, Halo 3 sold well. Yes it scored well. Its a great game. That does not make other great games less great. It just makes them not as commercially successful, which is a whole different topic.

Halo had much better sales, scores from all kind of critics and overall much better and bigger reception from gamers. So Halo is far ahead of it in ever aspects. :P
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Thanks a lot StarGalaxy, you turn this thread into a warzone.

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[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Resistance - 60 players co-op better than majority of Sony's FPS Halo - 1.7 million preorders in US from retailers 2.5 million US day 1 sales 1.1 million unique gamers online first day a movie failed because of Halo's success 170 million uS dollar day 1 300M week 1 2 years after release, ~1 million unique gamers 9.5 at GameSpot, AAA++ on GR

those numbers only equal to one thing the game was massively hyped, the add campaign for halo 3 was ridiculous, thats the reason for the preorders, thats the reason for the sales, thats the reason for the gamers online

That and its a really good game.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] Yeah, a "very good console FPS" compared to Sony's other FPS', maybe.StarGalaxyTHE

Reviewers seem to have a different opinion than you do. Same goes for many PS3 owners.

Yeah, when was the last time a Resistance game scored 9.5 - 10 at GameSpot or got a GR score around 95 % or was so big that perhaps movies failed due to it, sold through over 3M in 24 hours or had 1 million unique daily players 2 years after launch?

Do you only play 95% and above games? Is 9 or lower just not acceptable to be touched by you? Saying something is bad/ or not comparable because it is worse by a pretty small margin seems a bit small minded.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] Yes, it did. FPS gaming would have died out if not Halo would have come. Your just mad it was Halo.Legendaryscmt

I am a huge Halo fanboy, so I don't know who you think you are talking to, but FPS games have been around for decades. Its insane to think that all of a sudden they would have ceased to exist due to a single game.

Agreed, saying that Halo saved the FPS genre is complete BS. To me, it just showed that you could have a smoother FPS experience control wise on a console.

Halo saved FPS on CONSOLES.
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] Halo had much better sales, scores from all kind of critics and overall much better and bigger reception from gamers. So Halo is far ahead of it in ever aspects. :P

Read this again, since you missed the point.

And your point is? Yes, Halo 3 sold well. Yes it scored well. Its a great game. That does not make other great games less great. It just makes them not as commercially successful, which is a whole different topic.
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?Tikicobra
60 player online, huge scale in bosses, and a story and character I actually care about.

I thought the story was forgettable in Resistance 2 compared to the original.

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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] I am a huge Halo fanboy, so I don't know who you think you are talking to, but FPS games have been around for decades. Its insane to think that all of a sudden they would have ceased to exist due to a single game. StarGalaxyTHE

Agreed, saying that Halo saved the FPS genre is complete BS. To me, it just showed that you could have a smoother FPS experience control wise on a console.

Halo saved FPS on CONSOLES.

No, it did not. Not even close.
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FPS gaming would have died out if not Halo would have come. Your just mad it was Halo.StarGalaxyTHE

HL and Quake 3 disagree.

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Arg. R2 wasn't really as good online as Halo in my opinion, it lacked a lot and pure number of people online wont save..any game but a MMOG i suppose. But the Halo fanboys need to just stop, your making yourselves look stupid.

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[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Resistance - 60 players co-op better than majority of Sony's FPS Halo - 1.7 million preorders in US from retailers 2.5 million US day 1 sales 1.1 million unique gamers online first day a movie failed because of Halo's success 170 million uS dollar day 1 300M week 1 2 years after release, ~1 million unique gamers 9.5 at GameSpot, AAA++ on GR

those numbers only equal to one thing the game was massively hyped, the add campaign for halo 3 was ridiculous, thats the reason for the preorders, thats the reason for the sales, thats the reason for the gamers online

Massive FAIL. even if Halo was hyped as **** and every1 thought it was gonna be Awesome, but it sucked, millions wouldn have been playing it years after release. So this means this game is very good. Perio
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#42 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]Agreed, saying that Halo saved the FPS genre is complete BS. To me, it just showed that you could have a smoother FPS experience control wise on a console.SpruceCaboose
Halo saved FPS on CONSOLES.

No, it did not. Not even close.

Yes, it id. we all know.some live in denial :D but it really did.
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Yes, it did. FPS gaming would have died out if not Halo would have come. Your just mad it was Halo.StarGalaxyTHE
Goldeneye (N64) sold almost 8 million copies, more than Halo 1

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Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?StarGalaxyTHE
No, it saved FPS gaming on XBox... nothing else.
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="linkin_guy109"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Resistance - 60 players co-op better than majority of Sony's FPS Halo - 1.7 million preorders in US from retailers 2.5 million US day 1 sales 1.1 million unique gamers online first day a movie failed because of Halo's success 170 million uS dollar day 1 300M week 1 2 years after release, ~1 million unique gamers 9.5 at GameSpot, AAA++ on GR

those numbers only equal to one thing the game was massively hyped, the add campaign for halo 3 was ridiculous, thats the reason for the preorders, thats the reason for the sales, thats the reason for the gamers online

Massive FAIL. even if Halo was hyped as **** and every1 thought it was gonna be Awesome, but it sucked, millions wouldn have been playing it years after release. So this means this game is very good. Perio

halo was hyped to the heavens theres no ifs about that, yes the game is good, but it is not gods gifts to earth, the game is not a diamond encrusted turd which friends beat other people to death over, this game is a piece of software meant to entertain not to fight over, this game will not cure cancer, it is meant to bring fun and bring a competitiveness with its online aspect.
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Do I have the ability to lock this thread because I really want StarGalaxyTHE to shut the hell up for once in his life!

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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Resistance - 60 players co-op better than majority of Sony's FPS Halo - 1.7 million preorders in US from retailers 2.5 million US day 1 sales 1.1 million unique gamers online first day a movie failed because of Halo's success 170 million uS dollar day 1 300M week 1 2 years after release, ~1 million unique gamers 9.5 at GameSpot, AAA++ on GRlinkin_guy109
those numbers only equal to one thing the game was massively hyped, the add campaign for halo 3 was ridiculous, thats the reason for the preorders, thats the reason for the sales, thats the reason for the gamers online

Why would someone play a game online...years after it released if they was sold on an advert and didn't reallyhave any interest in it? :| Clearly they like it, CLEARLY it has something more going for it than advertising. Accept it. I very much doubt R2 would be as thriving to this day even with that sort of advert backing. Not saying it;s a bad game, it just doesn't have the legs of Halo 3.

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#49 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]Halo saved FPS gaming on consoles. What did Resistance do?GodofBigMacs
No, it saved FPS gaming on XBox... nothing else.

It saved console FPS gaming. Fact. You wouldn't see Killzone were it not for Halo: CE, one of the best FPS ever. Period, end of disucssion
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#50 shakmaster13
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R2 does co-op better than halo. It also does online multiplayer better in some areas.