Retro Games - Has Saturn aged better than PS1

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#1 digi-demon
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Looking back in retrospect at the software catalogue for Saturn & PS1, I reckon there are now more good 'retro' games (ones that really stand the test of time) on the Saturn. Obviously this is mostly because of the huge amount of 2D games that were created for it (after all Saturns '3D' was way to complex to program compared to its poweful 2D, and only a few games really pushed the machine polygonally - VF2, Last Bronx & Sega Rally are among the few.

Timeless 'retro'2D Saturn games that stand the test of time include:

Guardian Heroes, Dalkstalkers, Vampire Hunter,The many Capcom V's games, Street Fighter Alpha's & SFII Collection, Capcom Arcade Collection Vo.1-4, Gradius Collection, Layer section,

Samurai shodown collection, Metal Slug & King of Fighters Series -the Saturn versions were the definitive 32bit console versions as not many could afford those 16bit Neo-Geo cartprices.

IMO these '2D' games have aged much better and are now much more playable than many polygonal '3D' games of that era, andSaturn had morehigher qualityversions than the PS1.

What do you think?

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#2 88mphSlayer
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considering the quality of 3D PS1 games only really got good after late 1997, it wouldn't really surprise me, there's a ton of really nasty looking 3D PS1 games

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#3 VendettaRed07
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Yes.. If you have an action replay that can play import games. Otherwise no, it just doesnt have the library to compete. THe japanese saturn imo is one of the best consoles ever

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#4 SLI_Gamer
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i dont know when psx was out i thought 3d games > 2d games, but from now days view 2d games do look better than old psone 3d graphics if you have seen crysis & co.

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#5 Squall18
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Dude, Sega Saturn was soo much fun!

However, FF7 on the PS1 takes the cake. PS1 is one of the greatest inventions ;)

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#6 Vinegar_Strokes
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they both look terrible now. time is not kind to early 3D graphics

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#7 millerlight89
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Excellent thread TC, welcome to GS. It is good to see new people that post good threads.

Back on topic = This is really a tough decision. I would have to say yes. I just played Clockwork Knight, epic lol.

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#8 Arach666
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Yes.. If you have an action replay that can play import games. Otherwise no, it just doesnt have the library to compete. THe japanese saturn imo is one of the best consoles ever

VendettaRed07

Isn´t the Saturn region free? I believe it is,since I can play Radiant silvergun in it.

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#9 ohthemanatee
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most 3D saturn games aged really poorly, games like nights into dreams, Panzer dragoon zwei and Virtua fighter 2 are really overrated
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#10 Menalque2
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most 3D saturn games aged really poorly, games like nights into dreams, Panzer dragoon zwei and Virtua fighter 2 are really overratedohthemanatee

Blasphemer! Those games are godly, especially Panzer.

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#11 ohthemanatee
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]most 3D saturn games aged really poorly, games like nights into dreams, Panzer dragoon zwei and Virtua fighter 2 are really overratedMenalque2

Blasphemer! Those games are godly, especially Panzer.

they really aren't
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#12 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]most 3D saturn games aged really poorly, games like nights into dreams, Panzer dragoon zwei and Virtua fighter 2 are really overratedohthemanatee

Blasphemer! Those games are godly, especially Panzer.

they really aren't

I am going to take a wild guess and say you are a teen? They are quite amazing.
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#13 digi-demon
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othermanatee Which PS1 games do you think have aged well over the years in comparison?
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="Menalque2"]

Blasphemer! Those games are godly, especially Panzer.

millerlight89

they really aren't

I am going to take a wild guess and say you are a teen? They are quite amazing.

I'm 22 and I own various game systems from 8bit to current gen

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#15 millerlight89
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othermanatee Which PS1 games do you think have aged well over the years in comparison?digi-demon
I know this isn't directed at me, but because I gave you a compliment I will answer lol. I personally think Resident Evil 3 looks good still, well for an old game.
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#16 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] they really aren'tohthemanatee

I am going to take a wild guess and say you are a teen? They are quite amazing.

I'm 22 and I own various game systems from 8bit to current gen

Ok my apologies, you are older than me. So I will shut my mouth now :P.
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#17 ohthemanatee
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othermanatee Which PS1 games do you think have aged well over the years in comparison?digi-demon
bear in mind that I specifically said 3D games. O.D.T. Tekken 3 Soul Blade Fear Effect 2 Vagrant Story Final Fantasy Hellnight Soul Reaver
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#18 Menalque2
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I am going to take a wild guess and say you are a teen? They are quite amazing.millerlight89

I'm sure an intelligent grown-up can hate them too. He's still wrong though. :P

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#19 digi-demon
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Soul Blade was virtually unplayable last time I tried (2/3 yrs ago) These PS1 retro game must have lists are awfully short ....
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#20 VendettaRed07
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

Yes.. If you have an action replay that can play import games. Otherwise no, it just doesnt have the library to compete. THe japanese saturn imo is one of the best consoles ever

Arach666

Isn´t the Saturn region free? I believe it is,since I can play Radiant silvergun in it.

yeah it is if you have either a region x cart, or the action replay plugged into the cartridge slot. So it kind of is and isnt at the same time

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[QUOTE="digi-demon"]Soul Blade was virtually unplayable last time I tried (2/3 yrs ago) These PS1 retro game must have lists are awfully short ....

i'm only going by personal experience, I can't list games that I don't own/haven't played Also, in my opinion the soul calibur series has had very few changes since it's first game on the PS1 (soul blade), hell soul calibur on the dreamcast is pratically the game as soul blade on the PS1
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#22 x8VXU6
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Im sorry does the saturn have MGS 1 no.......what about Tekken 3 no.........it looks like PS1 whens by a long shot

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#23 digi-demon
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When was the last time you played either of these games?
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#24 VendettaRed07
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Im sorry does the saturn have MGS 1 no.......what about Tekken 3 no.........it looks like PS1 whens by a long shot

x8VXU6

lol, does the psone have NiGHTS?... What about Virtua Fighter 2? or Fighters Megamix?.. How about Burning Rangers or Radiant Silvergun?... well looks like the saturn wins by a long shot

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#25 digi-demon
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DC Soul calibur is so much better than PS1 Soul Blade - but anyhow....
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#26 ohthemanatee
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DC Soul calibur is so much better than PS1 Soul Blade - but anyhow....digi-demon
As an owner of both, i'd say that DC soul calibur is better, but not by much. The soul calibur series really hasn't evolved much since it began the same goes for the DOA series, it hasn't evolved much since DOA 2 for the dreamcast
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#27 digi-demon
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Fighters Megamix was good back in its day & I still own it, but IMO it ain't aged well, just like the early Tekken games (1&2) and DOA1all look & play terrible now.

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#28 ohthemanatee
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Fighters Megamix was good back in its day & I still own it, but IMO it ain't aged well, just like the early Tekken games and DOA1 (1-2) look/play terrible now.digi-demon
I Disagree on DOA 2. It still is highly addicting IMO

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#29 digi-demon
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Sorry - typo see previous message - meant Tekken 1&2 & DOA 1
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#30 Renegade_Fury
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Well I can still play Virtua Fighter1/Remix & 2, Panzer Dragoon, Galactic Attack, Sonic 3D Blast, NBA Jam T.E, and VR Virtua On Cyber Troopers without any problems. I think racing games, like Cyber Speedway and VR Virtua Racing, are the ones that haven't aged too well due to things like late pop-ins.

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#31 fightninja162
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alot of psx games still hold up well i downloaded these games on psn and am having a ball.

Castlevania SOTN

Medal of Honor 1 and Underground

Final Fantasy 7 and tactics

Resident Evil 1 and 2

Dino Crysis

Crash Bandicoot 1,2 and 3

Spyro

Tekken 2 and 3

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#32 XboximusPrime
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My main thing against the saturn is that I can actually find PS1 games in the states with some relative ease if I go to the right places. Saturn games, not so much. If I lived in japan maybe.

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#33 DJ_Headshot
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if you play ps1 games in high resolution with AA and AF they look fine at least to me i hate jaggies and low resolutions especially stretched out on a high res screen. I for one think the ipad re4 looks nice because of the high resolution not impressive graphically by any means but it just looks good to my eyes.