Revolutionizing the controller without motion? Can Nintendo counter or adopt?

I came across these guys the other day www.hellatronix.com

This would probably affect the PS3 and 360. wii.............not so much. but how do you guys think Nintendo would react to this. Mind you its probably not the final version obviously but the idea is pretty damn cool. IT would probably pose a problem for sports games on the wii. What do you guys think? I sent an email and these guys are also supposedly going to be at E3..........hmmmm. If this picks up im curious to see how companies would use it in their games. *looking at you EA*

Heres what im thinking. im just going to make a list its easier........ugh!

1) Sports games: we can finally make our plays without anyone seeing.

2) first person shooters can have a clear screen but still have everything on your controller, and games like Condemned for example, we can use all our periperals as though WE are actually using them and noth the character on the screen. +1 for immersion WOOT!

3)arcade games (xbox LIVE, PSN. They talk about poker which could be pretty cool)

4)RPGs (BIG ONE). No more clutter on the screen at all. Imagine FF13 graphics and action sequences but with NO clutter.

5) Maps and radar on your controller for multiplayer games like halo 3.

6) SUVIVAL HORROR: Having me look down at the controller while a zombie is runnign at me would make me crap myself because i wont be able to pause to do something. love it LOL.

what else can you guys come up with?

That is actually pretty coolEl-Visitante

Interesting...

I can think of a few games this would work for, not to mention maybe downloading arcade games onto the handset and playing them on the move somehow? I would also hope that the lcd screen is touch screen as well. It could work simply because lcd's are becoming cheaper and cheaper to manufacture.

Interesting...

I can think of a few games this would work for, not to mention maybe downloading arcade games onto the handset and playing them on the move somehow? I would also hope that the lcd screen is touch screen as well. It could work simply because lcd's are becoming cheaper and cheaper to manufacture.

DAZZER7

dont think it is. it works with the buttons. mayeb later on they will release one with touchscreen. you know how it is. never put all your eggs in one basket right?

putting things on a controller would NOT work...that would imply having to look away from the screen while playing...

EDIT: in multiplayer games at least, if you had your inventory and stuff for an RPG on your controller that would eliminate the "clutter"

putting things on a controller would NOT work...that would imply having to look away from the screen while playing...

EDIT: in multiplayer games at least, if you had your inventory and stuff for an RPG on your controller that would eliminate the "clutter"

Mr_Apple_Soup

Providing it is touch screen, equiping items, customising items or going through your inventory on the fly would be quite useful.

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

putting things on a controller would NOT work...that would imply having to look away from the screen while playing...

EDIT: in multiplayer games at least, if you had your inventory and stuff for an RPG on your controller that would eliminate the "clutter"

DAZZER7

Providing it is touch screen, equiping items, customising items or going through your inventory on the fly would be quite useful.

putting things on a controller would NOT work...that would imply having to look away from the screen while playing...

EDIT: in multiplayer games at least, if you had your inventory and stuff for an RPG on your controller that would eliminate the "clutter"

Mr_Apple_Soup

So its just a controller with a screen?VideoGameGuy

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]So its just a controller with a screen?ArchDeathK

[QUOTE="ArchDeathK"][QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]So its just a controller with a screen?VideoGameGuy

So its like how Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicals worked with the GBA?jeffwulf

[QUOTE="ArchDeathK"][QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]yeah, why wouldn't it?VideoGameGuy

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="ArchDeathK"] cause its really awfully simplistic to say that. its liek saying a human being is just flesh with eyeballs. its not what it is. its what it can do.ArchDeathK

wouldn't it be completely awkward having basically a huge ds, but instead of the screen being an inch apart you have to look down then up, which will be destracting as hell.

[QUOTE="ArchDeathK"][QUOTE="Mckenna1845"]this would wrork for when 3d comes about, but a clear screen wtf? i can't imagine that at all it'll basically be enemies running at the screen but you won't be able to see what you're doing? Unless it means just a crosshair ala house of the dead. Is that what they mean or am i completely wrong? Mckenna1845

Sounds like a nuisance having to look down at your controller just to see ingame menus, raders and inventory. It would just bring unnecessary frustration. Imagine having to sort through your inventory in an RPG or a Survival horror while you've got hordes of enemies attacking you. Unless ofcourse the game paused while you looked down at the controller. Which some games do but not all.Dahaka-UK

[QUOTE="ArchDeathK"] like i said its up to the developers. this wont be sued as something you have to constantly look up and down at. its like a menu on the controller, or for example when your using a device in the game you could use it from the controller as though YOU'RE the one who's actually using it instead of the character. The example they give is for poker and madden, in poker the cards would be dealt from the dealer on the screen to each player's controller and that way you can bet and raise etc from your controlers instead of the screen. Multiplayer poker was never possible with friends at your house unless you had cards and chips. With madden you would be able to chose plays etc, on your individual controller instead of the other player seeing your play on the screen and then countering it. Dont think of it as "oh man i dont want to be constantly looking up and down". its the developers who will chose how to use it properly.Mckenna1845

Yup, just looks to be an improvement over the Dreamcast's VMU. Usually when an advancement in interface is good and worthwhile, the industry runs with it. See the addition of buttons from the Atari age up to the PS2 age: from 2 buttons to 12+, analog thumbsticks, rumble, external memory (kind of phasing out though) and of course, improved ergonomics.

Somewhere along the line, the current big three didn't see the VMU as something that's worth adding for whatever reason. Could be because controllers run consumers at least $40+ for the official product, and adding (Can't recall how much these retailed for) somewhere around $20 might not seem too appealing given the failure of the Dreamcast. It was certainly a neat idea that had its uses but short battery life in addition to the looking up and down mechanical of using such a device diminished its value I think.

I'd imagine having a bigger brighter version of it in full color and all would be an even greater battery strain, not to mention a distraction. There's a more elegant solution to be found than this.

[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"][QUOTE="ArchDeathK"] like i said its up to the developers. this wont be sued as something you have to constantly look up and down at. its like a menu on the controller, or for example when your using a device in the game you could use it from the controller as though YOU'RE the one who's actually using it instead of the character. The example they give is for poker and madden, in poker the cards would be dealt from the dealer on the screen to each player's controller and that way you can bet and raise etc from your controlers instead of the screen. Multiplayer poker was never possible with friends at your house unless you had cards and chips. With madden you would be able to chose plays etc, on your individual controller instead of the other player seeing your play on the screen and then countering it. Dont think of it as "oh man i dont want to be constantly looking up and down". its the developers who will chose how to use it properly.RenegadeSynapse

Yup, just looks to be an improvement over the Dreamcast's VMU. Usually when an advancement in interface is good and worthwhile, the industry runs with it. See the addition of buttons from the Atari age up to the PS2 age: from 2 buttons to 12+, analog thumbsticks, rumble, external memory (kind of phasing out though) and of course, improved ergonomics.

Somewhere along the line, the current big three didn't see the VMU as something that's worth adding for whatever reason. Could be because controllers run consumers at least $40+ for the official product, and adding (Can't recall how much these retailed for) somewhere around $20 might not seem too appealing given the failure of the Dreamcast. It was certainly a neat idea that had its uses but short battery life in addition to the looking up and down mechanical of using such a device diminished its value I think.

I'd imagine having a bigger brighter version of it in full color and all would be an even greater battery strain, not to mention a distraction. There's a more elegant solution to be found than this.