Rockstar isnt a lazy dev. PS3 will never run an open world game like 360.

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#1 Shufflecuff
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The 360 is balanced with more memory and a better graphics card period. The embedded 10meg of edram on the board is why 360 can run 2xAA in games like red dead redemption. As far as shadows and particle effects go...thats the graphics card, if you think RSX is better then have fun doing so. And lastly memory allocation is far superior on the 360, not partitioned like the PS3 is. I had to post this cuz i was so sick of hearing lazy developers. The PS3 is a nightmare people. And yes you can achieve great graphics in a small environment game on an exclusive 100 million dollar budget type of game...god of war 3 isnt like Fallout people...and yes New Vegas will crush on the 360 too, and that is next gen...Red Dead, Fallout type games which are not for PS3...sorry.

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#2 Ragnarok1051
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Why do people still post like its 2006?

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#3 lundy86_4
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So you're a developer?

Have first hand experience developing for PS3 and 360?

Have even a somewhat working knowledge of how each system works?

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#4 NukePistols
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Why do people still post like its 2006?

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I don't know, but it's funny.
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#5 Zero_epyon
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The 360 is balanced with more memory and a better graphics card period. The embedded 10meg of edram on the board is why 360 can run 2xAA in games like red dead redemption. As far as shadows and particle effects go...thats the graphics card, if you think RSX is better then have fun doing so. And lastly memory allocation is far superior on the 360, not partitioned like the PS3 is. I had to post this cuz i was so sick of hearing lazy developers. The PS3 is a nightmare people. And yes you can achieve great graphics in a small environment game on an exclusive 100 million dollar budget type of game...god of war 3 isnt like Fallout people...and yes New Vegas will crush on the 360 too, and that is next gen...Red Dead, Fallout type games which are not for PS3...sorry.

Shufflecuff
Level streaming kills your argument. Please look up infamous.
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#6 sayonara89
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So you're a developer?

Have first hand experience developing for PS3 and 360?

Have even a somewhat working knowledge of how each system works?

lundy86_4

I think he is just Xbox fanboy ;)

And TC: RDR cost 100m $, Uncharted 2 for example 20m $.

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#7 Chutebox
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Infamous looked and played pretty damn good for an open world game.

Soooooo, in short: lol.

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#8 The-Mosher
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InFamous says hi.

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#9 Bigboi500
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RDR on PS3 scored the same as it did on 360. The game is great on the PS3 too, just accept it.

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#10 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

So you're a developer?

Have first hand experience developing for PS3 and 360?

Have even a somewhat working knowledge of how each system works?

sayonara89

I think he is just Xbox fanboy ;)

Me thinks so too. I was hoping TC would reply, so they could at least prove some of what they spew.

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#11 lawlessx
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.....i think i need another break from system wars.
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#12 tommyas
Member since 2007 • 2594 Posts
Not this again... I have RDR on ps3 and it runs and looks amazing. Who gives a ''''' whether the resolution is a little lower or not?? If this is such a big deal for you then quit gaming because you arent playing games for what they are. Period. Same goes for Alan Wake. Who cares about resoution as long as it runs and looks awesome? Wake up people, seriously.
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#13 kozzy1234
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What about Infamous?

Fail thread is fail.

Sure the 360 is slightly better version of RDR, but its not a huge difference.

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#14 Irishyo
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Lol no,they're just lazy.
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#15 gago-gago
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I would never call Rockstar lazy. We'll see what happens with the Agent.

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#16 nervmeister
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The PS3 is a nightmare people. And yes you can achieve great graphics in a small environment game on an exclusive 100 million dollar budget type of game...Shufflecuff
More like 20 million (in Uncharted 2's case).
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#17 Sev_the_gamer
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What about Infamous?

Fail thread is fail.

Sure the 360 is slightly better version of RDR, but its not a huge difference.

kozzy1234

but it's noticeable...

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#18 Zero_epyon
Member since 2004 • 20501 Posts

Head to Head: I really don't see what you're talking about.

It looks like it runs fine to me.


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#19 sayonara89
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Lol no,they're just lazy.Irishyo
No, they engine is just more suited to 360 hardware/EDRAM (first RAGE game was 360 exclusive). Same for UE3 (Gears of War).
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#20 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

What about Infamous?

Fail thread is fail.

Sure the 360 is slightly better version of RDR, but its not a huge difference.

Sev_the_gamer

but it's noticeable...

Barely noticable

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#21 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

What about Infamous?

Fail thread is fail.

Sure the 360 is slightly better version of RDR, but its not a huge difference.

Sev_the_gamer

but it's noticeable...

It really isn't, at least on my tv it isn't.
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#22 gugler990
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ohh god not another "EXPERT"

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#23 sayonara89
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ohh god not another "EXPERT"

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SW is full of "experts" :P
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#24 Anjunaddict
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Infamous looked and played pretty damn good for an open world game.

Soooooo, in short: lol.

Chutebox
Graphically, the word average comes to mind for Infamous.
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.....i think i need another break from system wars.lawlessx
XD Didn't you just come back from one? XD
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#26 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Infamous looked and played pretty damn good for an open world game.

Soooooo, in short: lol.

Anjunaddict
Graphically, the word average comes to mind for Infamous.

Really? I thought it looked awesome.
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#27 vaderhater
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Same engine as GTA4. So the devs have had prior practice with the PS3.

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#28 Zero5000X
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What about Infamous?

Fail thread is fail.

Sure the 360 is slightly better version of RDR, but its not a huge difference.

kozzy1234
InFamous was a great game and I can't wait for the sequel, but it had the worst jaggies of any game I've ever seen. I actually preferred playing it on my SDTV then my HDTV because the jaggies were less noticeable.
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#29 jrhawk42
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Infamous looked and played pretty damn good for an open world game.

Soooooo, in short: lol.

Anjunaddict

Graphically, the word average comes to mind for Infamous.

graphically InFamous was below average. I don't think that was due to the power of the PS3 though. Most likely due to the ps3 api's and development tools.

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#30 Irishyo
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[QUOTE="Irishyo"]Lol no,they're just lazy.sayonara89
No, they engine is just more suited to 360 hardware/EDRAM (first RAGE game was 360 exclusive). Same for UE3 (Gears of War).

Which means that they're lazy,because the PS3 has been out for 4 years and they're games still look Sub-par compared to the 360,like most other developers. Which means they have yet to make they're engine more suitable for the PS3. Hence the word "lazy".

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#31 Zero_epyon
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Infamous looked and played pretty damn good for an open world game.

Soooooo, in short: lol.

Anjunaddict
Graphically, the word average comes to mind for Infamous.

Idk about RDR but infamous had no load times between city section. I ran/glided through all 3 boroughs of empire city while being shot at, trains flying passed me, traffic, people, explosions and using my powers without a single hiccup. I prefer it that way.
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#32 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Infamous looked and played pretty damn good for an open world game.

Soooooo, in short: lol.

Zero_epyon
Graphically, the word average comes to mind for Infamous.

Idk about RDR but infamous had no load times between city section. I ran/glided through all 3 boroughs of empire city while being shot at, trains flying passed me, traffic, people, explosions and using my powers without a single hiccup. I prefer it that way.

Yes, there was always a lot going on in Infamous. I still liked how it looked though...
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#33 Anjunaddict
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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Infamous looked and played pretty damn good for an open world game.

Soooooo, in short: lol.

Chutebox
Graphically, the word average comes to mind for Infamous.

Really? I thought it looked awesome.

I just popped it in there and yeah its just how I remembered it. Full of jaggies with a really bad draw distance. And the blur effect they have going on to try and hide the crappy draw distance makes it look even worse imo.
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#34 Zero_epyon
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] Graphically, the word average comes to mind for Infamous.

Idk about RDR but infamous had no load times between city section. I ran/glided through all 3 boroughs of empire city while being shot at, trains flying passed me, traffic, people, explosions and using my powers without a single hiccup. I prefer it that way.

Yes, there was always a lot going on in Infamous. I still liked how it looked though...

Oh no it looked great for what it was doing. I have no complaints.
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#35 gamewhat
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To the TC. If I had an ignore button you would be the first to be on it. Eventually you will eat your own words. Besides if you are talking about RDR then you are mistaken my friend. They both look almost exactly the same and as for pop ins. That can be fixed with a simple patch seeing how the game was evidently rushed at the end. Besides if you want proof that the ps3 can do better graphics, run at a butter smooth frame rate, and have better textures and etc than any 360 game then play infamous. Dude it blows away any open world game in a lot of areas. So your argument is moot and sooooo 2006.

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#36 theseekar
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Why do people still post like its 2006?

Ragnarok1051

Because even today, PS3 harwdareshows how far behind it is from 360 one

We will never see a game like Alan Wake on PS3, or like Fable 3 or RDR (in 720p) etc

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#37 Shufflecuff
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Infamous has no draw distance. And plenty o pop in...no loading ill give it that but it would have double the draw distance and less pop in on 360. Again, the PS3 will never run an open world game like 360...and of course PC is vastly superior than both for openworld.

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#38 Chutebox
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Infamous has no draw distance. And plenty o pop in...no loading ill give it that but it would have double the draw distance and less pop in on 360. Again, the PS3 will never run an open world game like 360...and of course PC is vastly superior than both for openworld.

Shufflecuff
Wow, thanks to the factual based evidence you have there we can no longer argue with you.
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#39 Sword-Demon
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I wouldn't say RS is lazy, but they obviously have a bit more experience with the 360.

Infamous runs very smoothly. and i'm betting the jaggies and draw distance will be much improved in the sequel

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#40 dakan45
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and x360's limited dis space is limiting the amount of resources the game can use and therefore the size of the maps and the amount of diffirent enviroments. Carmack said that they wanted to add multiple wastelands on rage but the disk size or the x360 force them to limit the game only in 2 wastelands and alter the story. I blame x360 for wrecking my game. I guess thats the reason alan wake became so much more linear than the original open world idea.
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#41 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Why do people still post like its 2006?

theseekar

Because even today, PS3 harwdareshows how far behind it is from 360 one

We will never see a game like Alan Wake on PS3, or like Fable 3 or RDR (in 720p) etc

So now Alan Wake can't be done on the PS3? :lol:
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#42 Bread_or_Decide
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Infamous is a pretty amazing open world game. Wrong.
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#43 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Why do people still post like its 2006?

theseekar

Because even today, PS3 harwdareshows how far behind it is from 360 one

We will never see a game like Alan Wake on PS3, or like Fable 3 or RDR (in 720p) etc

Yea I mean thats why 360 always wins them graphic or even tencial awards.....oh wait.