Roughly $1 per week for LIVE looks small but how is $500million per year small?

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#1 gamenux
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$50 / 52 weeks per year = around $0.96

$50 x 10,000,000 LIVE users = around $500,000,000

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If the $500 million was in gamer's pocket: $500million / $60 for a new game = around 8,333,333.

So $500 million can buy roughly 8.33 million new games. Wow! that is a lot of new games.

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#2 the_h_bomb
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Lemmings dont mind, they like paying for free stuff
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#3 LTomlinson21
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Good job on doing the math. What's to say here?
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#4 Kaosed
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i had to stop feeding my family for those .14 cents per day :(

dam u microsoft!

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#5 Erkidu
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I don't understand this thread.... So, we're bashing MS because they're making money?
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#6 Kaosed
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Lemmings dont mind, they like paying for free stuffthe_h_bomb

like you paid for your overpriced console and a headset?

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#7 the_h_bomb
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like you paid for your overpriced console and a headset?

Kaosed

what console would that be?

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#8 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]Lemmings dont mind, they like paying for free stuffKaosed

like you paid for your overpriced console and a headset?

I don't really get either of the points especially the eadset one.

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#9 rockydog1111
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Its not 10 million Gold members, its 10 million silver/gold members.
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#10 jack_russel
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[QUOTE="Kaosed"]

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]Lemmings dont mind, they like paying for free stuffmeetroid8

like you paid for your overpriced console and a headset?

I don't really get either of the points especially the eadset one.

The first guy is saying that online is suppose to be free. The second guy is saying that you have to buy a blutooth headset in order to communicate on the PS3.
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#11 Udsen
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Lemmings are fine with paying for something that's free.

It's a shame, really. So ready to cough up money if MS gives the go.

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#12 gamenux
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Its not 10 million Gold members, its 10 million silver/gold members.rockydog1111

Even at 8million LIVE users, how is $400,000,000 small?

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#13 ukillwegrill
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$50 / 52 weeks per year = around $0.96

$50 x 10,000,000 LIVE users = around $500,000,000 gamenux

Umm yeah the point is its not one bloke who pays for everyone elses membership

and actuallt some people pay alot moore for xbox live then $50 i for one pay the equivelent ofa little over$100

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#14 Kaosed
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[QUOTE="Kaosed"]

like you paid for your overpriced console and a headset?

the_h_bomb

what console would that be?

the $600 ps3, it was so obvious it would get a price drop yet alot of idiots bought it just for a bigger e-penor

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#15 Kaosed
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="Kaosed"]

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]Lemmings dont mind, they like paying for free stuffjack_russel

like you paid for your overpriced console and a headset?

I don't really get either of the points especially the eadset one.

The first guy is saying that online is suppose to be free. The second guy is saying that you have to buy a blutooth headset in order to communicate on the PS3.

thanks

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#16 deactivated-5f89ab8e63049
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Are you suggesting that Microsoft are making money off of Xbox Live?

I can't believe we've all been so blind...

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#17 Udsen
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If you want a wireless headset you need to pay anyways on 360. If you want Wireless online gaming (WHICH ALOT OF PEOPLE DO), Cough up 100 dollars, please. Yeah, it comes free built into PS3 but you should definatley let those 100 dollars go! Want to play online? 50 dollars, right now. Yes, yes, we know that it's P2P and it should be free, but if you're so willing to blindly hand us money, we'll take it!

- Micro$haft

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#18 ukillwegrill
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If you want a wireless headset you need to pay anyways on 360. If you want Wireless online gaming (WHICH ALOT OF PEOPLE DO), Cough up 100 dollars, please. Yeah, it comes free built into PS3 but you should definatley let those 100 dollars go! Want to play online? 50 dollars, right now. Yes, yes, we know that it's P2P and it should be free, but if you're so willing to blindly hand us money, we'll take it!

- Micro$haft

Udsen

P2P many xbox games have dedicated servers, dedicated servers are only beneficial for games that allow 24 or more people online so thats not an issue.

Also dedeicated servers have a downfall as their run by the games developers they dont have to conform th many laws put in place my MS regarding online play so technically if warhawk and other game dont sell so well their online gameplay coud be cancelled all together

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#19 the_h_bomb
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the $600 ps3, it was so obvious it would get a price drop yet alot of idiots bought it just for a bigger e-penor

Kaosed

I don't have a PS3, i thought that would have been obvious from mys sig. And as far as the PS3 goes it's not actually 599 dollars any more.

Still great job on proving that lemmings are smart :lol:

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#20 Ragashahs
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here's my question how come MS has had so many live outages the recent past and other XBL problems when they earn 500 million from live?
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here's my question how come MS has had so many live outages the recent past and other XBL problems when they earn 500 million from live?Ragashahs
And why does it have ads?
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#22 ukillwegrill
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here's my question how come MS has had so many live outages the recent past and other XBL problems when they earn 500 million from live?Ragashahs

In the 5 years i have had xbox live its been down twice the first time was a collosol update in like 2003 and the latest onoe was because how much new users it got (over 3 million) now i believe PSN will never get these problems because no one uses it

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#23 dream431ca
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here's my question how come MS has had so many live outages the recent past and other XBL problems when they earn 500 million from live?Ragashahs

Good point.

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#24 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]here's my question how come MS has had so many live outages the recent past and other XBL problems when they earn 500 million from live?jack_russel
And why does it have ads?

MS like money just like everyone else

Im not sure about the U.S xxbox live but the only ads i get are for new games which i actually like

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#25 Ragashahs
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]here's my question how come MS has had so many live outages the recent past and other XBL problems when they earn 500 million from live?ukillwegrill

In the 5 years i have had xbox live its been down twice the first time was a collosol update in like 2003 and the latest onoe was because how much new users it got (over 3 million) now i believe PSN will never get these problems because no one uses it

sure PSN has some probelms but that cause it's free if MS is earning all that money they should never have problems like the live outage that just happened not to mention the advertising and they should have dedicated servers
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#26 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Are all ten million gold accounts? :?
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#27 rocktimusprime
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so its bad for MS to make money? Why by god I sure hope sony got the memo!
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#28 Heil68
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="Kaosed"]

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]Lemmings dont mind, they like paying for free stuffjack_russel

like you paid for your overpriced console and a headset?

I don't really get either of the points especially the eadset one.

The first guy is saying that online is suppose to be free. The second guy is saying that you have to buy a blutooth headset in order to communicate on the PS3.

I thought the 2nd was a shot at PC. :lol:
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#29 gamenux
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Are all ten million gold accounts? :?Stevo_the_gamer

Even at 8million accounts that is $400milllion. Is it small?


And like MS did not know that christmas holidays is a heavy gaming time when kids are off, college is out, and people are buying stuff like games.

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#30 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]here's my question how come MS has had so many live outages the recent past and other XBL problems when they earn 500 million from live?Ragashahs

In the 5 years i have had xbox live its been down twice the first time was a collosol update in like 2003 and the latest onoe was because how much new users it got (over 3 million) now i believe PSN will never get these problems because no one uses it

sure PSN has some probelms but that cause it's free if MS is earning all that money they should never have problems like the live outage that just happened not to mention the advertising and they should have dedicated servers

That pretty much sums it up. If MS is earning 500 million just on Xbox live, why are they having all of these issues? It's like MS is afraid to invest money they have earned into Xbox live to make it run better. Or better yet, why don't they take all that money and fix the RROD problem for good.

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#31 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Are all ten million gold accounts? :?gamenux

Even at 8million accounts that is $400milllion. Is it small?


And like MS did not know that christmas holidays is a heavy gaming time when kids are off, college is out, and people are buying stuff like games.

So in conclusion - you have no idea.
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#32 AdolescentDon
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Yeah it's a real pain having to pay $500,000,000, really breaks the bank.
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#33 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]here's my question how come MS has had so many live outages the recent past and other XBL problems when they earn 500 million from live?Ragashahs

In the 5 years i have had xbox live its been down twice the first time was a collosol update in like 2003 and the latest onoe was because how much new users it got (over 3 million) now i believe PSN will never get these problems because no one uses it

sure PSN has some probelms but that cause it's free if MS is earning all that money they should never have problems like the live outage that just happened not to mention the advertising and they should have dedicated servers

It does have dedicated servers if u knew the pros and cons of P2P and dedicated u would opt for both as i said dedicated servers only have the advantage when in games with over 20 people plus Sony dont make the serevers its up to the developers to make dedicated servers and up to them to keep them running so its more advantageous to have P2P especially if its for a game thats not so populer as its more likely that the devs will close the serevrs thuss removing online play

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#34 VScalar
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I find enough change on the ground each day to more than pay for XBL. I have a student who pays for WoW that way (which is more expensive).

The solution to the incredibly high cost of gaming online with MS: look down while walking.

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#35 SpinoRaptor
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You'd think with all that money Microsoft would fix the problems with Xbox live.

Now we are seeing software failures, As if Hardware failures were not bad enough.

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#36 irmeleeman5995
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LIVE will never be free, so why complain about it? Just shut up and pay the money, or shut up and stop bashing it for costing money.
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#37 MoldOnHold
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Don't quite understand the point of this thread.

We pay for XBL, MS gets the money....simple enough.
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#38 Blinblingthing
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Are you suggesting that Microsoft are making money off of Xbox Live?

I can't believe we've all been so blind...

SpigleyMcCheese

Of course they are,

Or is Sony Taking the Loss on PSN

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#39 AIH_PSP
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Wow! You finally passed 5th grade math! Kudos to you!
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#40 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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What is the point of this thread? :|
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#41 taker42
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[QUOTE="SpigleyMcCheese"]

Are you suggesting that Microsoft are making money off of Xbox Live?

I can't believe we've all been so blind...

Blinblingthing

Of course they are,

Or is Sony Taking the Loss on PSN

On the contrary, Sony does not make a loss seeing they do not have to cough up any money to maintain servers, letting the devs to bear the burden. Sony can make money off PSN though, if they stuff it full of ads, which probably gonna be more than what xbl can make off its users, but since such figures are gonna be hidden, who knows.
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#42 Impex
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="Kaosed"]

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]Lemmings dont mind, they like paying for free stuffjack_russel

like you paid for your overpriced console and a headset?

I don't really get either of the points especially the eadset one.

The first guy is saying that online is suppose to be free. The second guy is saying that you have to buy a blutooth headset in order to communicate on the PS3.

:? I don't get your sig.

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#43 OGTiago
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i had to stop feeding my family for those .14 cents per day :(

dam u microsoft!

Kaosed

:lol:

Me too, haven't fed my dog for days, and it's not making any noise anymore.

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#44 _KenKittyragi_
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I don't mind paying for live since 90% of my REAL friends have Xbox Live and the others game on PS3 or Wii.
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#45 taker42
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I don't mind paying for live since 90% of my REAL friends have Xbox Live and the others game on PS3 or Wii._KenKittyragi_
:lol: at your sig.
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#46 ukillwegrill
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MS do invest huge amounts in Xbox live they only planed on an extra 2 million live subsrbers for the holiday season but they got double that so it knocked some connections

Xbox live was never down most people didnt have any problems at all

Growing pains can strain any online service especially an unexpected growth spurt, (somthing PSN wont ever need to worry about)

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#47 lowe0
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$50 / 52 weeks per year = around $0.96

$50 x 10,000,000 LIVE users = around $500,000,000

gamenux

Microsoft's projected revenue for FY2007 is over 50 billion. So, Live revenue accounts for a whole 1% of their business.

1% fits quite neatly within my definition of "small."

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#48 Lemmywinks_360
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I forgot that microsoft was a charity like unicef, all this time i thought they were a business out to make money.

Also 14 cents per day isn't really killing me now is it?

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#49 ukillwegrill
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I forgot that microsoft was a charity like unicef, all this time i thought they were a business out to make money.

Also 14 cents per day isn't really killing me now is it?

Lemmywinks_360

Well that was ur first mistake,everyone knows that Microsofts ultimate dream is too lose as much money asSONY

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#50 Guybrush_3
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Is it 10,000,000 gold accounts or just Live accounts. because people can have a silver account and I think that you can make more than one account, not sure though I dont have a 360.