RROD, and the cows that love bringing it up every 4 seconds.

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

MortalDecay

its just a lame of an argument saying that PS3 has no games.. true for 07, now its 08

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

MortalDecay

I will put it to rest when it is fixed OK, and i didn't have a ps1 or ps2, only a pc, but those got fixed, so why cant you put them to rest.

AND it isn't the only valid argument against the 360.

true, cows are only embarrassing themselves when they cry about RROD

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

u8muhrice

its just a lame of an argument saying that PS3 has no games.. true for 07, now its 08

Well, that's neither here, nor there. Besides, the cows say the exact samething about the 360.

okay, listen up

There are certain cows (like PSNut) that give PS users a bad rep.

Sure, the RROD card gets pulled alot, but its not the only valid argument

But the RROD card is pulled just as much as "PS3 HAS NO GAMES!!"

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

u8muhrice

its just a lame of an argument saying that PS3 has no games.. true for 07, now its 08

Anyway, back on topic. TC is right but 360 has more problems than ps2/psx

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

Jacobistheman

I will put it to rest when it is fixed OK, and i didn't have a ps1 or ps2 but those got fixed, so why cant you put them to rest.

AND it isn't the only valid argument against the 360.

What are the other valid arguements as to why the bloated BluRay player, that just happens to play games also, is better than the 360?

You forget that the 360 has a **** lineup of nothing but shooters which are nothing new. If i want to play shooters I will get pc and not use a controller. Hermit not a cow here btw. If it had a good lineup of rpgs or strategy games then we could talk. Whiteblade999

yet 360 has more games than any other console in every genre except platforming.

You forget that the 360 has a **** lineup of nothing but shooters which are nothing new. If i want to play shooters I will get pc and not use a controller. Hermit not a cow here btw. If it had a good lineup of rpgs or strategy games then we could talk. Whiteblade999

Funny you mention RPGs. I thought the 360 had more RPGs than the PS3.

You forget that the 360 has a **** lineup of nothing but shooters which are nothing new. If i want to play shooters I will get pc and not use a controller. Hermit not a cow here btw. If it had a good lineup of rpgs or strategy games then we could talk. Whiteblade999

The 360 has the best RPGs so far this gen. Have you not been paying attention?

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]You forget that the 360 has a **** lineup of nothing but shooters which are nothing new. If i want to play shooters I will get pc and not use a controller. Hermit not a cow here btw. If it had a good lineup of rpgs or strategy games then we could talk. Rogers_Wireless

360 has more games than ps3 in every genre except platforming. selfowned :lol:

Didn't see any mention of a ps3 in my post. Don't like ps3 either but hey who is counting?

[QUOTE="u8muhrice"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

MortalDecay

its just a lame of an argument saying that PS3 has no games.. true for 07, now its 08

Well, that's neither here, nor there. Besides, the cows say the exact samething about the 360.

not as much actually.. i believe everyone recognizes that Gears of War and Fables 2 is a great game... but im sure everyone can agree that Halo Wars is not a guarentee AAA

however, many lemmings deny the fact that PS3 has no good games. They bash MGS (when they never played it) or even Killzone 2.

I can bet my entire bank account that no one has played MGS or let alone Killzone 2 so how the hell do lemmings know that "its mediocre at its best?"

The fact is that the game looks great visually.. and knowing how MGS is, will do well in gameplay. As for killzone 2, so far i can say that it looks better than Halo, but on par with Gears of War

You forget that the 360 has a **** lineup of nothing but shooters which are nothing new. If i want to play shooters I will get pc and not use a controller. Hermit not a cow here btw. If it had a good lineup of rpgs or strategy games then we could talk. Whiteblade999

you're comparing a console to a pc :|

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]You forget that the 360 has a **** lineup of nothing but shooters which are nothing new. If i want to play shooters I will get pc and not use a controller. Hermit not a cow here btw. If it had a good lineup of rpgs or strategy games then we could talk. 100Gamer

you're comparing a console to a pc :|

Why not? Fanboys claim they are as good as a pc if not better.

Can you really blame them?

I went through two 360's and while i don't come onto GameSpot and moan about it, it certainly has put me off the 360 a bit. I still play my 360 all the time but i do feel a bit paranoid when i play it for long periods of time.

I never knew the ps1 had problems.

I went through 2 ps2s. The first one had a fault inside of it that stopped it from working while the second had the DRE. You say that cows went through the "exact same thing" as 360 owners are. I could be wrong but i believe that only early models of ps2 consoes got the DRE and the problem was fixed within the year.

So i can see why cows go on about it and i think anyone should be annoyed if they go through multiple consoles.

The 360 is one of if not the worst console engineering blunders of all time , they even had the foresight to put that stupid ring there because they knew it would break ....often. Some ps2 owners had to endure it ..... I don't see why can't lemmings do the same ? The funny thing is how the PS3 was predicted to be even worse than the 360 before release because of what they were putting into the system and the stories about all of the manufacturing problems/delay of the console.

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

MortalDecay

The PS3 did outsell the 360 last year. That's proof that more people perfer the PS3. That's all that matters. I don't remember the PS1 having a high failure rate and the PS2's failure rate pales in comparision to the 360's so it's really not an issue. A console that craps out just because you have the gall to play games on it shouldn't be considered a gaming console. It's just a nice paperweight. Especially after it bricks.

[QUOTE="100Gamer"]

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]You forget that the 360 has a **** lineup of nothing but shooters which are nothing new. If i want to play shooters I will get pc and not use a controller. Hermit not a cow here btw. If it had a good lineup of rpgs or strategy games then we could talk. Whiteblade999

you're comparing a console to a pc :|

Why not? Fanboys claim they are as good as a pc if not better.

i've never seen anyone say that. stop lying :|

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

EwokAssassin

The PS3 did outsell the 360 last year. That's proof that more people perfer the PS3. That's all that matters.

to retailers. and what does that have to do with this topic? you would rather have more sales than more games? :lol:

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]You forget that the 360 has a **** lineup of nothing but shooters which are nothing new. If i want to play shooters I will get pc and not use a controller. Hermit not a cow here btw. If it had a good lineup of rpgs or strategy games then we could talk. 100Gamer

you're comparing a console to a pc :|

Why not? Fanboys claim they are as good as a pc if not better.

i've never seen anyone say that. stop lying :|

See any of the threads that say pc gaming is dieing and console gaming is better? If you haven't then I'm sure you are new around here.

[QUOTE="EwokAssassin"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

100Gamer

The PS3 did outsell the 360 last year. That's proof that more people perfer the PS3. That's all that matters.

to retailers. and what does that have to do with this topic? you would rather have more sales than more games? :lol:

Retailers order more consoles as they sell. Which means in the end the consumers buy more consoles from the retailers if they need to order more... In effect more consoles are getting sold to the consumers. You still fail here too... Just give it up. By the way, if it's not the games then why is the PS3 outselling the 360? They are gaming consoles afterall. It just goesn to show you that people don't pay attention to the faulty reviews around here.

[QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="EwokAssassin"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

EwokAssassin

The PS3 did outsell the 360 last year. That's proof that more people perfer the PS3. That's all that matters.

to retailers. and what does that have to do with this topic? you would rather have more sales than more games? :lol:

Retailers order more consoles as they sell. Which means in the end the consumers buy more consoles from the retailers if they need to order more... In effect more consoles are getting sold to the consumers. You still fail here too... Just give it up. By the way, if it's not the games then why is the PS3 outselling the 360? They are gaming consoles afterall. It just goesn to show you that people don't pay attention to the faulty reviews around here.

you still havnt answered what this has to do with this topic

and have you seen the pathetic ps3 software sales? it means ppl are buying ps3 for blooray. owned :lol:

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

MortalDecay

And i can play almost all of the good 360 games on a great piece of hardware called the pc

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

u8muhrice

its just a lame of an argument saying that PS3 has no games.. true for 07, now its 08

Exactly.

If you are one that cannot afford multiple systems, you have to pick one to give you the best overall experience for the longest time. Simple. Most bang for your buck.

You buy a 360 at launch, you have a decent 2006 of titles. Best thing about it, no other console giving you HD gaming at the time. You have risk of RRoD. 2007 comes, you get great second year titles. By the end of 2007 you have Gears, Bioshock, and Mass Effect as highly touted games. And you have the ease of dev use that propels devs to give your version of multiplats and edge.

You buy a PS3 at launch, you have decent 2007 titles. Best thing about it, no reliability issues. By the end of the year you have matched the 360 in system power. You have devs realizing that if they use the PS3 to dev first, you get a better game for both platforms. You finish 2007 with good games like Heavenly Sword, uncharted, and Ratchet and Clank. Multiplats start to even out. 2008, your second year, shows a lot of promise. Just as 360 did with 2007, some new IP's along with PS classics look to give the console a boost.

Anyone with some thought can see the PS3 and 360 have very similar quality over lifespan.

Yes, 360 has an edge thus far. No PS3 titles match the scores 360 titles have received. But that 360 strength, as we all should know, isn't much of a strength for the long haul. Nothing done on any of those big 360 exclusives couldn't be done on the PS3. i challenge you to find one thing, tehcnically, that is done in a 360 game to make it great that the PS3 couldn't do. Therefore, its only a matter of time before the right dev makes a hit on the PS3. Maybe its MGS4, I dont know. But there is no indication with PS' history that the titles won't be there. Just as most console have, the PS3 had a intro year where a lot of learning needed to be done. But the box is now open and great games are to come.

And there is every indication that PS3 will last for a long time. Look at the great support for the PS2. Why wouldn't Sony support the PS3 for just as long? On the other hand, MS still has to prove it can last an entire gen. And most educated guesses say that MS will come out early again, only cutting the 360 short.

With all of that said. I can see why someone would think 360 would be a great console in 2006, 2007. But I cannot see where an undecided buyer would see it that way now and beyond. PS3 is the wise and most "bang for your buck" console for this gen from 2008 on.

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

MortalDecay

PS2 was faulty? I don't remember it having a 70% failure rate ever.

[QUOTE="100Gamer"]

100Gamer

you still havnt answered what this has to do with this topic

and have you seen the pathetic ps3 software sales? it means ppl are buying ps3 for blooray. owned :lol:

Cows will stop using the RROD arguement when LEMMINGS STOP USING THIS ONE

The 360 has a user base of almost 8 million more than the PS3. So for cows to bring up sales would be irrelevant...

The 360 has "arguably" the best lineup of the 3 next gen system's(including a GOTY). So for cows to bring up games would be irrelevant.

Basically it's the only argument they have... Well besides hiding behind the PC.

The 360 has a user base of almost 8 million more than the PS3. So for cows to bring up sales would be irrelevant...

The 360 has "arguably" the best lineup of the 3 next gen system's(including a GOTY). So for cows to bring up games would be irrelevant.

Basically it's the only argument they have... Well besides hiding behind the PC.

OhSnapitz

you have valid arguements.. but didnt Mario Galaxies get GOTY?

Like I said this is 08.. why are people talking about the past? PS3 has amazing line up as well as every console. PS3 however have 8 block buster titles this year.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

The 360 has a user base of almost 8 million more than the PS3. So for cows to bring up sales would be irrelevant...

The 360 has "arguably" the best lineup of the 3 next gen system's(including a GOTY). So for cows to bring up games would be irrelevant.

Basically it's the only argument they have... Well besides hiding behind the PC.

u8muhrice

you have valid arguements.. but didnt Mario Galaxies get GOTY?

Like I said this is 08.. why are people talking about the past? PS3 has amazing line up as well as every console. PS3 however have 8 block buster titles this year.

Actually Gears won GOTY in 06 ;)..

Anyway people keep bringing up the past because it hasn't gone anywhere.. (referring to the games). Just because "system A" had a ton of blockbusters last year doesn't mean "system A's" blockbuster all of a sudden become irrelevant the next year. COD4 is still selling like hotcakes.. Halo 3 is still selling like hotcakes... Same for Rockband... GHIII... ect. So why should we just ignore em?

Besides games aren't garuanteed to be blockbusters.. Everyone just knew Metroid Prime 3, Mass Effect, and Uncharted would be killer apps, AAAA, blockbusters... and what happened? They all Flopped!!! Well atleast ME sold well..

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

u8muhrice

its just a lame of an argument saying that PS3 has no games.. true for 07, now its 08

MGS4 and GTA4 are only 2 games :|

[QUOTE="u8muhrice"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

OPRFWrestler112

its just a lame of an argument saying that PS3 has no games.. true for 07, now its 08

MGS4 and GTA4 are only 2 games :|

What about Little Big Planet? SOCOM? Final Fantasy? Killzone 2? Resistance 2? Tekken?

wait.. let me guess, those games seem "lame" or "mediocre" to you.

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

GTANJ

PS2 was faulty? I don't remember it having a 70% failure rate ever.

I don't remeber the 360 having a 70% failure rate either.

I blame Gamespot to an extent... this forum used to be housed with decent conversation and folks who used to "constructively argue". Mods suspend people for using a cuss word nowadays and turn their head to the same garbage RRoD thread 25 times a day... Cows can say what they want, but the RRod thing needs to end for the sake of any type of respect that SW has left... Here, I'll make it easy, WE ALL KNOW YOU MADE UP YOUR ACCOUNT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT A CONSOLE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY OWN!!! hopefully that will help...
colmusterd28

i agree what you say about the fakeboys, but the failure rate for Xbox360 is 16%.. that a little bit over than 1/10 xboxes. Thats still alot and you cant ignore that fact.

However, youre going to see that alot and this is system wars.

You going to see the "Xbox RROD" "PS3 NO GAMES" "Wii PWNS ALL" cards alot

[QUOTE="100Gamer"]

you still havnt answered what this has to do with this topic

and have you seen the pathetic ps3 software sales? it means ppl are buying ps3 for blooray. owned :lol:

hayato_

Cows will stop using the RROD arguement when LEMMINGS STOP USING THIS ONE

the software sales speak for themselves :|

[QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

you still havnt answered what this has to do with this topic

and have you seen the pathetic ps3 software sales? it means ppl are buying ps3 for blooray. owned :lol:

100Gamer

Cows will stop using the RROD arguement when LEMMINGS STOP USING THIS ONE

the software sales speak for themselves :|

So does the failure rates and annual sales

funny how you claim that,,,

i havent had a single problem like rrod on ps1 ps2 ps3 n64 nes snes genesis saturn dc the original xbox gamecube ,as a matter of fact aside from normal wear and tear ,, ,

the 360 is the only one i have had a single problem like that, and it was only a 6 month old console,, and to top i t off it was barey played,,,

so ya those who say pses and nintendos have the same problems your lying through your teeth to just feel happy about your 360s that you love so damn much ,,

i like them to but theres no denying 360 as quoted by yahoo is the worst console ever ,, it is u nreliable and it destroyed many games that were known for such success,

like perfect dark ... that was ruined the day microsoft took rare,,

banjo will probably be the same

lets face it ,, ms does not know this industry, thats why they couldnt maintain a large lead even with that year head start ,,, in fact ms is the only one to not lead a single hardware generation aside from pc market

I blame Gamespot to an extent... this forum used to be housed with decent conversation and folks who used to "constructively argue". Mods suspend people for using a cuss word nowadays and turn their head to the same garbage RRoD thread 25 times a day... Cows can say what they want, but the RRod thing needs to end for the sake of any type of respect that SW has left... Here, I'll make it easy, WE ALL KNOW YOU MADE UP YOUR ACCOUNT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT A CONSOLE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY OWN!!! hopefully that will help...
colmusterd28

Wow, what a lame excuse.

While I don't agree with anyone making up false claims to make a point that has already been made, your above statement is lacking rationale. Doesn't matter how many threads are made about the RRoD issue, one, 5, 3000. We all know what the real numbers are. We all know that this is one of the most widespread issues ever to plague a console. And the same lemmings that told cows to learn their lesson last gen have now backed up and turned 180.

A issue like this doesn't need to be 100% to big a HUGE problem. Its at 30% (or not much less) which is big enough to warrant some serious discussion.

Let's be realistic...The 360 is proof that people will put up with crappy harware to play the best games, just like you cows did with the PSOne, and PS2. You all went through the same exact thing.

I know it's the cows only valid argument against the 360, but it is a very weak arguement, since it makes you guys look like hypocrites, so can we put it rest?

Thanks.

MortalDecay

Lemmings: We have more AAAEs than you cows

Cows: your system fails more

So this thread is pointless.