Rsx Xenos comparison

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#1 aia89
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looking for a link where a poster compares both Gpus and explains the importance of the Spe's in helping the limitation of the Ps3 gpu that has to offload some work to the spe's?

it was the beyon3d or neogaf forum I think, but I could not find it.

too bad because it was a very detailed post explaining the respective gpus'capabilities.

I'm asking here because it was often posted in SW in those topics pertaining graphics

thanks!

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why should we care about 2005 gpus at this point ?

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why should we care about 2005 gpus at this point ?

dontshackzmii
He's just looking for the link
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why should we care about 2005 gpus at this point ?

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That wasn't what the TC asked, so why bother posting? [QUOTE="aia89"]

looking for a link where a poster compares both Gpus and explains the importance of the Spe's in helping the limitation of the Ps3 gpu that has to offload some work to the spe's?

it was the beyon3d or neogaf forum I think, but I could not find it.

too bad because it was a very detailed post explaining the respective gpus'capabilities.

I'm asking here because it was often posted in SW in those topics pertaining graphics

thanks!

Your best bet would be to just google RSX vs Xenos (sp?). Honestly though knowing GPU specs is only a part of the picture. You really need to look at the specs of each console. My PERSONAL opinion is that the 360 is reportedly easier to program for, which is why some multiplates look better on the 360. In my opinion though the PS3 has more potential power as evidenced by games like Uncharted 2 and God of War III. In closing, graphics aren't everything. Just enjoy the games.
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here

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#6 aia89
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thank you guys and bandicoot for the link. it was indeed what I was looking for!

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#7 aia89
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

why should we care about 2005 gpus at this point ?

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That wasn't what the TC asked, so why bother posting? [QUOTE="aia89"]

looking for a link where a poster compares both Gpus and explains the importance of the Spe's in helping the limitation of the Ps3 gpu that has to offload some work to the spe's?

it was the beyon3d or neogaf forum I think, but I could not find it.

too bad because it was a very detailed post explaining the respective gpus'capabilities.

I'm asking here because it was often posted in SW in those topics pertaining graphics

thanks!

Your best bet would be to just google RSX vs Xenos (sp?). Honestly though knowing GPU specs is only a part of the picture. You really need to look at the specs of each console. My PERSONAL opinion is that the 360 is reportedly easier to program for, which is why some multiplates look better on the 360. In my opinion though the PS3 has more potential power as evidenced by games like Uncharted 2 and God of War III. In closing, graphics aren't everything. Just enjoy the games.

you're right, I'm really ignorant about technicalities, but I need to give it to someone who thinks that the ps3 gfx card is more powerful than the 360's, while I tried to explain the importance of the SPEs to make good looking games such as Uncharted 2 and Gow 3.
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#8 Eltormo
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here

;)

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I would bet money that his 12 years in the gaming industry has been as a PC developer. This is very reminicent of when Valve complained about nvidia being hard to work with.

He is complaining about doing extra work to get performance to match what can be obtained on another vendors hardware. On the PC platform this sort of complaint is reasonable. Identical CPUs identical API, you want your hardware to perform very similarly without vendor specific optimizations. But in the console space... it's naive thinking.


Complaining about having to pre-cull geometry on the SPU before sending to the GPU... The fact that the Cell is good at that should be listed as a strength, but he cites it as a weakness because he does not want to spend the effort to tap that performance. I guess that is fair if you are working on a low budget project. But even he himself admit that this technique could result in performance that exceeds what is possible on Xenon.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=40458

I doubt it. The Xbox 360's rendering hardware beats the PS3's, it's unlikely the PS3 will ever be able to visually beat the best the 360 has to offer.

http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=773344&page=2&pp=30

Joker454 has been a big nay sayer of the RSX for a long time in fact look at what he was saying about the PS3 on 2006 in another forum he posted in,for him the RSX is just a good for nothing GPU that will stop the PS3 from delivering anything better than the 360,he could be a MS enploy for all you know,and mainly what he complained about is how to get things done on PS3.

If funny because on 2006 he openly sayed that it was unlikely that the PS3 would be able to vissually beat the best the 360 has to offer,but then again on 2006 Uncharted 2 wasn't out and 360 fans all and the media was to busy salivating over GOW graphics,who would have know that in just a short year he would be prove wrong when Uncharted was release on 2007.

That dude is probably a 360 developer or some one who really don't like sony's aproach to hardware,the links don't lie.


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#9 XboximusPrime
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All I know is, froma tech perspective, the 360 GPU is better then teh PS3 one. However, you have to factor in teh CPU with the PS3s GPU because the two are heavily tied together.

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#10 Eltormo
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All I know is, froma tech perspective, the 360 GPU is better then teh PS3 one. However, you have to factor in teh CPU with the PS3s GPU because the two are heavily tied together.

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Agree and that is what is really happening Xenos >> RSX, Cell & RSX >> Xenos & Xenon.