Rumor:Trioxide To Allow Console Games To Be Played On PC?

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#1 devious742
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Rumor: "Trioxide" To Allow Console Games To Be Played On PC?

Caution: this comes from the same place as all the other leaks we've posted on tonight, so now's a good time to remind you they come from a marketing company. Performing surveys for not only Microsoft, but other companies (ie Activision) as well. Which means that while some of this news seems genuine - and imminent - other stuff may just be pie-in-the-sky (like this). Got it? Great, let's continue. Something popping up on the site is called "Trioxide", and claims it will introduce "the ability to play the latest console games (ie Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, etc) on your PC". How? Don't know. Why? Don't know. Is this even legal/doable? Probably not! We don't have much more than the name and the mission statement. But there's two prices listed: $49 and $299, with the more expensive price and boasted controller use seeming to imply that - if this is real, and not, as seems more probable, a figment of some marketers imagination - it'd be a kind of actual device, and not just standalone software.

this reminds me of Bleem.. Bleem is a PlayStation emulator software designed to allow people to play original PlayStation games on their PC computers, released by the bleem Company in 1999.

Why? Don't know. Is this even legal/doable? Probably not! (actually..yes its legal since sony filed a suit against bleem for the very same thing and lost)

Sony Lawsuit

Two days after bleem! started taking preorders for their emulator, Sony filed suit against them alleging that they were violating their rights and that providing access for PlayStation games to run on non-Sony hardware constituted unfair competition.

Ultimately bleem! won in court and a protective order was issued to "protect David from Goliath" . Sony lost on all counts, including bleem!'s use of screenshots of PlayStation games on its packaging. The court noted that bleem!'s use of copyrighted screenshots was considered fair use and should be allowed to continue.

Despite the legal victories, the legal fees allegedly forced the company out of business. eBay auctions of some of the company's possessions were held soon after - including a huge library of worldwide game releases apparently used for compatibility testing.

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Rumor: Microsoft to Allow Console Games To Be Played On PC!
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#3 devious742
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Rumor: Microsoft to Allow Console Games To Be Played On PC!jack_russel

Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, etc

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#4 SolidTy
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Well, let's really look at this.

To play PS3 games, these consumers need to buy a Blu-Ray Drive for their PC, and some SIXAXIS games would never work without some sort of Motion Controller adapter.

To Play Wii, they are going to need some sort of Waggle adapter.

I see 360 as possible, especially since M$ shares the same controllers, HOWEVER I also M$ using their vast resources to prevent this from ever happening...unless THEY introduce it.

This Generation seems really, really difficult for this to take place.

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Well, let's really look at this.

To play PS3 games, these consumers need to buy a Blu-Ray Drive for their PC, and some SIXAXIS games would never work without some sort of Motion Controller adapter.

How to Use a PS3 Controller on a PC

To Play Wii, they are going to need some sort of Waggle adapter.

I see 360 as possible, especially since M$ shares the same controllers, HOWEVER I also M$ using their vast resources to prevent this from ever happening...unless THEY introduce it.

This Generation seems really, really difficult for this to take place.

SolidTy

I agree with u

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#6 agentfred
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This will not amount to anything. I can guarantee it.
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You're going to need one hell of a computer to emulate those systems at full speed...
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#8 devious742
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You're going to need one hell of a computer to emulate those systems at full speed...famicommander

i know huh:shock:...most emulators need to run on something thast atleast 2x more powerful than what its trying to emulate:o

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#9 jknight5422
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This is completely do-able. VMware did it with most operating systems & nobody sued the pants off of them. If you can have virtual machines running on your PC, why not virtual consoles? It's healthy for game developers & exclusives can still get a lion's share of profit from PC users.

The key here is you might have to buy a license for each virtual console. So a virtual PS3 might still cost you $400 which is paid to Sorny. Yes, you would need a blu-ray-rom for your PC. I can wait til the prices come down. Another possibility is that it allows you to use a console on the virtual system provided you own the console already, such as submitting a serial number to a central site for approval.

Secondly, there may be a timed delay on which newly released games can be played on a virtual system. Gears 2 might get released this November, but only be available to play on a virtual system 6 months later, when the prices of the game have fallen in stores, the used market has built up, & general lack of interest.

Lastly, there could be some quirkiness issues on a virtual system. Games may not play 100% as they would on the console. We might as well admit it's a good idea, even if it may not exist.

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#10 Kirlok
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i cant wait for the massive sues this is gona provoke
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i cant wait for the massive sues this is gona provokeKirlok

emulation is legal in the US. they can sue all they want, they will never win.

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Well, let's really look at this.

To play PS3 games, these consumers need to buy a Blu-Ray Drive for their PC, and some SIXAXIS games would never work without some sort of Motion Controller adapter.

To Play Wii, they are going to need some sort of Waggle adapter.

I see 360 as possible, especially since M$ shares the same controllers, HOWEVER I also M$ using their vast resources to prevent this from ever happening...unless THEY introduce it.

This Generation seems really, really difficult for this to take place.

SolidTy

PC BR drives are $150 and the only game lost would be Lair. No big hurdles.

360 would be simple.

All the Wii would need is a blutooth driver for the wiimote and a second webcam. Tricky, but not impossible.

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see... :P

i feel like a jerk now lol

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Well, let's really look at this.

To play PS3 games, these consumers need to buy a Blu-Ray Drive for their PC, and some SIXAXIS games would never work without some sort of Motion Controller adapter.

To Play Wii, they are going to need some sort of Waggle adapter.

I see 360 as possible, especially since M$ shares the same controllers, HOWEVER I also M$ using their vast resources to prevent this from ever happening...unless THEY introduce it.

This Generation seems really, really difficult for this to take place.

SolidTy

1) Not if the games are downloadable ( no BLU RAY )

2) Wii Mote works on PC...

3) k

I'm not beleiving this for a second, but its easily doable.

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#15 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="famicommander"]You're going to need one hell of a computer to emulate those systems at full speed...devious742

i know huh:shock:...most emulators need to run on something thast atleast 2x more powerful than what its trying to emulate:o

Those are emulators ... , getting the official framework itself is different and *shoulD* be possible on PC hardware, unlike emulaters, which are only emulating the framework of the consoles.

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Well, let's really look at this.

To play PS3 games, these consumers need to buy a Blu-Ray Drive for their PC, and some SIXAXIS games would never work without some sort of Motion Controller adapter.

To Play Wii, they are going to need some sort of Waggle adapter.

I see 360 as possible, especially since M$ shares the same controllers, HOWEVER I also M$ using their vast resources to prevent this from ever happening...unless THEY introduce it.

This Generation seems really, really difficult for this to take place.

SolidTy

PC is an open platform, you can make virtual reality only games work with button commands...

With the emulator they'd probably allow configuration of commands by keyboard, with pc anythings possible...

So, all systems would be playable...and there already is sixaxis drivers released for the pc to allow the pc to have six axis and the controller, not sure about wii...

But who needs the emulation for the 360?All their good games already release on the pc vastly superior to their inferior 360 counter parts so Microsoft wouldn't have to worry about that...

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, let's really look at this.

To play PS3 games, these consumers need to buy a Blu-Ray Drive for their PC, and some SIXAXIS games would never work without some sort of Motion Controller adapter.

To Play Wii, they are going to need some sort of Waggle adapter.

I see 360 as possible, especially since M$ shares the same controllers, HOWEVER I also M$ using their vast resources to prevent this from ever happening...unless THEY introduce it.

This Generation seems really, really difficult for this to take place.

Meu2k7

1) Not if the games are downloadable ( no BLU RAY )

2) Wii Mote works on PC...

3) k

I'm not beleiving this for a second, but its easily doable.



1) If you download a game it's a rom and then it's illegal.
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, let's really look at this.

To play PS3 games, these consumers need to buy a Blu-Ray Drive for their PC, and some SIXAXIS games would never work without some sort of Motion Controller adapter.

To Play Wii, they are going to need some sort of Waggle adapter.

I see 360 as possible, especially since M$ shares the same controllers, HOWEVER I also M$ using their vast resources to prevent this from ever happening...unless THEY introduce it.

This Generation seems really, really difficult for this to take place.

JLF1

1) Not if the games are downloadable ( no BLU RAY )

2) Wii Mote works on PC...

3) k

I'm not beleiving this for a second, but its easily doable.



1) If you download a game it's a rom and then it's illegal.

I was refering to digital distribution ...

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, let's really look at this.

To play PS3 games, these consumers need to buy a Blu-Ray Drive for their PC, and some SIXAXIS games would never work without some sort of Motion Controller adapter.

To Play Wii, they are going to need some sort of Waggle adapter.

I see 360 as possible, especially since M$ shares the same controllers, HOWEVER I also M$ using their vast resources to prevent this from ever happening...unless THEY introduce it.

This Generation seems really, really difficult for this to take place.

Silverbladed

PC is an open platform, you can make virtual reality only games work with button commands...

With the emulator they'd probably allow configuration of commands by keyboard, with pc anythings possible...

So, all systems would be playable...and there already is sixaxis drivers released for the pc to allow the pc to have six axis and the controller, not sure about wii...

But who needs the emulation for the 360?All their good games already release on the pc vastly superior to their inferior 360 counter parts so Microsoft wouldn't have to worry about that...



The problem is that the keyboard is in no way the best controlling system. For strategy and shooters it's great but for action games, fighters, platformers and brawlers it sucks.
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[QUOTE="Silverbladed"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, let's really look at this.

To play PS3 games, these consumers need to buy a Blu-Ray Drive for their PC, and some SIXAXIS games would never work without some sort of Motion Controller adapter.

To Play Wii, they are going to need some sort of Waggle adapter.

I see 360 as possible, especially since M$ shares the same controllers, HOWEVER I also M$ using their vast resources to prevent this from ever happening...unless THEY introduce it.

This Generation seems really, really difficult for this to take place.

JLF1

PC is an open platform, you can make virtual reality only games work with button commands...

With the emulator they'd probably allow configuration of commands by keyboard, with pc anythings possible...

So, all systems would be playable...and there already is sixaxis drivers released for the pc to allow the pc to have six axis and the controller, not sure about wii...

But who needs the emulation for the 360?All their good games already release on the pc vastly superior to their inferior 360 counter parts so Microsoft wouldn't have to worry about that...



The problem is that the keyboard is in no way the best controlling system. For strategy and shooters it's great but for action games, fighters, platformers and brawlers it sucks.

Action and Platformers are easy on the PC, I honestly cant see why its not done ( Platformers )... platform controls are always simple anyway.

Mario Galaxy would be easily doable.

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Blu-Ray? Wii-remote? Stupid rumour.
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#22 JLF1
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I was rrefering to deigital distribution ...s

Meu2k7

Do you seriously think that Nintendo, Sony and MS will start with digital distribution if Trioxide is ever released to help it?


Half of Nintendos profits is from selling systems.
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#23 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

I was rrefering to deigital distribution ...s

JLF1


Do you seriously think that Nintendo, Sony and MS will start with digital distribution if Trioxide is ever released to help it?


Half of Nintendos profits is from selling systems.

For starters, the majority of games are 3rd party. Secondly, software sales is software sales.

If your all so confident that "Casuals" or "teh normal people" prefer consoles then why are you even casting these doubts about how this would effec tthe console market?

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#24 devious742
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Blu-Ray? Wii-remote? Stupid rumour.bobbetybob

Blu-ray drive:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106227

$120.00

wii-mote is possible on pc

http://www.houseofnintendo.com/50226711/use_the_wii_remote_to_control_your_pc.php

or

http://www.moddb.com/mods/half-life-2-wiimote-mod

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Action and Platformers are easy on the PC, I honestly cant see why its not done ( Platformers )... platform controls are always simple anyway.

Mario Galaxy would be easily doable.

Meu2k7


And strategy games works great with a controller Halo Wars, CaC 3, TLoTR: BFME 2. Halo works superbly with it.

Try to play Ninja Gaiden with a keyboard or MGS.
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][

Action and Platformers are easy on the PC, I honestly cant see why its not done ( Platformers )... platform controls are always simple anyway.

Mario Galaxy would be easily doable.

JLF1



And strategy games works great with a controller Halo Wars, CaC 3, TLoTR: BFME 2. Halo works superbly with it.

Try to play Ninja Gaiden with a keyboard or MGS.

They work alot slower, a platformer wouldnt be a different on a PC ... and saying action games are not on the PC is laughable.

I played both 360 and PC versions of Assassins creed, I enjoyed the PC controls alot more, the only downside being no rumble ofcourse.

Command and Conquer type RTS are nothing to be proud of.

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Let this stupid rumour die, its not going to happen for at least 10-15 years, we are barely able to emulate a few PS2 games
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#28 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

I was rrefering to deigital distribution ...s

Meu2k7


Do you seriously think that Nintendo, Sony and MS will start with digital distribution if Trioxide is ever released to help it?


Half of Nintendos profits is from selling systems.

For starters, the majority of games are 3rd party. Secondly, software sales is software sales.

If your all so confident that "Casuals" or "teh normal people" prefer consoles then why are you even casting these doubts about how this would effec tthe console market?



For starters if does third party's would all want to be on the PC they would already port all the games to the PC.

I am confident that this wont hurt the console market because you would need such an expensive PC to play these games on it.

Bleem was the worst emulator ever created and I don't see Trioxide being any different. You can barely play PS2 games today with emulators and that is with tons of bugs and very very poor performance. Do you seriously think that this will work with every PS3, Wii and 360 game right now? In ten years perhaps but in no way in this gen.
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#29 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

I was rrefering to deigital distribution ...s

JLF1


Do you seriously think that Nintendo, Sony and MS will start with digital distribution if Trioxide is ever released to help it?


Half of Nintendos profits is from selling systems.

For starters, the majority of games are 3rd party. Secondly, software sales is software sales.

If your all so confident that "Casuals" or "teh normal people" prefer consoles then why are you even casting these doubts about how this would effec tthe console market?



For starters if does third party's would all want to be on the PC they would already port all the games to the PC.

I am confident that this wont hurt the console market because you would need such an expensive PC to play these games on it.

Bleem was the worst emulator ever created and I don't see Trioxide being any different. You can barely play PS2 games today with emulators and that is with tons of bugs and very very poor performance. Do you seriously think that this will work with every PS3, Wii and 360 game right now? In ten years perhaps but in no way in this gen.

I dont even believe this is true for a second, I have already said this.

Oh and, I have little to no performance issues with my PS2 games ;)

I had a memory card mess up with Persona 3, but other than that ... some minor problems that were fixable.

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This is completely do-able. VMware did it with most operating systems & nobody sued the pants off of them. If you can have virtual machines running on your PC, why not virtual consoles? It's healthy for game developers & exclusives can still get a lion's share of profit from PC users.

The key here is you might have to buy a license for each virtual console. So a virtual PS3 might still cost you $400 which is paid to Sorny. Yes, you would need a blu-ray-rom for your PC. I can wait til the prices come down. Another possibility is that it allows you to use a console on the virtual system provided you own the console already, such as submitting a serial number to a central site for approval.

Secondly, there may be a timed delay on which newly released games can be played on a virtual system. Gears 2 might get released this November, but only be available to play on a virtual system 6 months later, when the prices of the game have fallen in stores, the used market has built up, & general lack of interest.

Lastly, there could be some quirkiness issues on a virtual system. Games may not play 100% as they would on the console. We might as well admit it's a good idea, even if it may not exist.

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#31 dabear
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Never happen. They won't even get it to market before Sony, Nintendo, & MS file lawsuits and injunctions.