Rumour - MS sells old consoles as New

http://n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-145991.aspx?CT=1&Page=1&Page2=1&SC=1092679#C1092679

This isn't going to end well if true.

Nintendo was been doing that since launch.........:|

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Ms should just do it like Dell(I hate dell though) just sell em cheaper, dell sells lots of refurbs that have a warrenty just they sell em for less. Its ok to tell ur customer that it isn't new its better then lying.......way better.........better then not doing it...........its the best.....

http://n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-145991.aspx?CT=1&Page=1&Page2=1&SC=1092679#C1092679

This isn't going to end well if true.

jonnyt61

Dayum, and people call Sony dispirit for they bundles. This is coming from a company that gives you a used system when you send your brand new one in to get fixed.

well thats pretty lame lol sneaky MS

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http://n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-145991.aspx?CT=1&Page=1&Page2=1&SC=1092679#C1092679

This isn't going to end well if true.

CubanBlunt

Dayum, and people call Sony dispirit for they bundles. This is coming from a company that gives you a used system when you send your brand new one in to get fixed.

well when i sent my premium (which was 1 year old at that time), they sent me a brand new 1, how shweet

[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

http://n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-145991.aspx?CT=1&Page=1&Page2=1&SC=1092679#C1092679

This isn't going to end well if true.

mingo123

Dayum, and people call Sony dispirit for they bundles. This is coming from a company that gives you a used system when you send your brand new one in to get fixed.

well when i sent my premium (which was 1 year old at that time), they sent me a brand new 1, how shweet

guys reading comprehension FTW, "Rumour" until true.

...or maybe these were old stock that they re-opened to make the heat sink change to before shipping out. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be legal for them to sell previously owned machines as new. At least it wouldn't be in the states.

They probably sold your old one as new f50p90

well whoever got it must be lucky, he/she got a system touched by mingo :D

guys reading comprehension FTW, "rumor" until true.

Innovazero2000

shocking IF TRUE

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guys reading comprehension FTW, "rumor" until true.

f50p90

Not saying its true one way or the other, but how does it being an older mode guarantee it is used?

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

guys reading comprehension FTW, "rumor" until true.

f50p90

lol N4G reports : "Max Console reports that Fench website logic-sunrise.."

uh yea still rumor untill true

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

guys reading comprehension FTW, "rumor" until true.

mnvike

Not saying its true one way or the other, but how does it being an older mode guarantee it is used?

w00t go french peoplegohan2710

[QUOTE="gohan2710"]w00t go french peoplestereointegrity

The french know where you live.

[QUOTE="mnvike"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

guys reading comprehension FTW, "rumor" until true.

f50p90

Not saying its true one way or the other, but how does it being an older mode guarantee it is used?

And they have "repair the problems" so they can give a new guarantee, and if they give us a 3 year guarantee for a console that has a really high chances to get the RROD, why not to give it to a repair console

...or maybe these were old stock that they re-opened to make the heat sink change to before shipping out. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be legal for them to sell previously owned machines as new. At least it wouldn't be in the states.

mnvike

After opening 10 of them, they found that the machines have been converted to new and all have non-falcon motherboards, old Hitachi 47 or Samsung MS25 drives and the repair center sticker on them.

Dont think so.

[QUOTE="mnvike"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

guys reading comprehension FTW, "rumor" until true.

f50p90

Not saying its true one way or the other, but how does it being an older mode guarantee it is used?

I'm pretty sure its already been published that Microsoft was opening current stock of 360s and putting new heat sinks in them. Who's to say that isn't done at the repair center? Unless the laws are different in France they cannot be selling used systems as new.

I would be pretty suprised if these systems were used.

http://n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-145991.aspx?CT=1&Page=1&Page2=1&SC=1092679#C1092679

This isn't going to end well if true.

jonnyt61

Seems logical if true. The Xbox 360 has a really high failure rate compared to other consoles. When you have a lot of refurbished consoles lying around, what better to use them than to resell them.

[QUOTE="gohan2710"]w00t go french peoplestereointegrity

no that means they are paranoid:P

Unless the laws are different in France they cannot be selling used systems as new.

I would be pretty suprised if these systems were used.

mnvike

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="gohan2710"]w00t go french peoplethrones

The french know where you live.

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="mnvike"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

guys reading comprehension FTW, "rumor" until true.

mnvike

Not saying its true one way or the other, but how does it being an older mode guarantee it is used?

I'm pretty sure its already been published that Microsoft was opening current stock of 360s and putting new heat sinks in them. Who's to say that isn't done at the repair center? Unless the laws are different in France they cannot be selling used systems as new.

I would be pretty suprised if these systems were used.

Because Microsoft obeys the laws all the time, which is why there slapped with a 22 million fine in february for anti-trust laws breaches in the EU :|

[QUOTE="mnvike"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="mnvike"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

guys reading comprehension FTW, "rumor" until true.

thrones

Not saying its true one way or the other, but how does it being an older mode guarantee it is used?

I'm pretty sure its already been published that Microsoft was opening current stock of 360s and putting new heat sinks in them. Who's to say that isn't done at the repair center? Unless the laws are different in France they cannot be selling used systems as new.

I would be pretty suprised if these systems were used.

Because Microsoft obeys the laws all the time, which is why there slapped with a 22 million fine in february for anti-trust laws breaches in the EU :|

Hey, I'm not a Microsoft fan. I'm not saying Microsoft wouldn't do something like this if they thought there was a decent chance they could get away with it. I'm saying, if it is illegal, there is no way they would have done it. How could they possibly think it wouldn't get discovered by someone, especially considering how much scrutiny the hardware is currently under. Microsoft, like just about any HUGE company, may have questionable morals, but it doesn't make them stupid.

I wouldnt be suprised if all systems did this, its a dirty business when it comes down to making money and I can see any company doing this if they can get away with it. I hope it aint true but if it is, dat is so fu**ed up. clintos59

Hmmm. You just made me wonder, "what constitutes a used system?". Maybe if they take enough bits and pieces from a used system and put them in a new case, its no longer used?

Anyrate, rather than arguing with everyone I'll just say that I agree, if this is true, its a pretty crappy thing to do.

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="mnvike"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="mnvike"]

Not saying its true one way or the other, but how does it being an older mode guarantee it is used?

mnvike

I'm pretty sure its already been published that Microsoft was opening current stock of 360s and putting new heat sinks in them. Who's to say that isn't done at the repair center? Unless the laws are different in France they cannot be selling used systems as new.

I would be pretty suprised if these systems were used.

Because Microsoft obeys the laws all the time, which is why there slapped with a 22 million fine in february for anti-trust laws breaches in the EU :|

Hey, I'm not a Microsoft fan. I'm not saying Microsoft wouldn't do something like this if they thought there was a decent chance they could get away with it. I'm saying, if it is illegal, there is no way they would have done it. How could they possibly think it wouldn't get discovered by someone, especially considering how much scrutiny the hardware is currently under. Microsoft, like just about any HUGE company, may have questionable morals, but it doesn't make them stupid.

Well, it isn't unheard of to sell refurbished equipment so I imagine it may not be illegal, but it certainly might attract bad press.

y so shocked?

Well, it isn't unheard of to sell refurbished equipment so I imagine it may not be illegal, but it certainly might attract bad press.

donwoogie

It's illegal when it's done without the customers notice

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Well, it isn't unheard of to sell refurbished equipment so I imagine it may not be illegal, but it certainly might attract bad press.

killerfist

It's illegal when it's done without the customers notice

Well that's where legal technicalities and good lawyers comes into it.

wow

that is so low

I think somebody would have noticed this earlier and the problem would have been more widespread were it true. There is no photo evidence at the moment. I guess this is a story which nobody will know. I say we don't talk about it untill its proven true. readingfc_1

I would assume that if it is kept alive, there's more likelyhood it'll be proved, or disproved, whichever the case may be.

sneaky stuff. sneeeeaky

If true, this could well rival the RROD for the level of bad publicity MS will recieve.

Of course, this is still a rumour, so best wait for more reports.

lmao, I don't careEuroMafia

Where did you get that picture of marcus punching that locust? Is that a video or is that just animated pic?