Ryse has the best next gen graphics so far.

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#1  Edited By Thunder7151
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Nothing shown on PS4 so far has graphics as good as Ryse.

XBOX ONE is showing that so far it has the best graphically capabilities or any of the next gen consoles. This is most likely due to its customized and extremely efficient architecture, and features such as DirectX 11.2 and Tiled Resources. Good graphics are more than just paper specs, and XBOX ONE proves this.

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#2 drekula2
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this is the issue with games. they're cutscene based and the core gameplay is just button mashing combat until you make it to the next cutscence.

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#4  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Thunder7151

Note that X1 has DirectX 11.X which is a superset of PC's DirectX11.2 hence why AMD released Mantle APIs for the PC.

DirectX11.2 basically means gimped by NVIDIA and Intel.

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#5 Thunder7151
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@ronvalencia said:

@Thunder7151

Note that X1 has DirectX 11.X which is a superset of PC's DirectX11.2 hence why AMD released Mantle APIs for the PC.

DirectX11.2 basically means gimped by NVIDIA and Intel.

The comparison is between XBOX ONE and PS4. PC is not part of the comparison. PS4 doesn't have DirectX 11.2, Tiled Resources, or Mantle.

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#6 MightyMuna
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I disagree. Killzone is more impressive, also considering the scale of the game.

Nevertheless, Ryse looks great and should ease any doubts that Xbox One won't have good looking games. However, the game still looks boring as hell.

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#7 Whiteknight19
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I think killzone has better gfx then ryse considering the scale and details

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#8  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Thunder7151 said:

@ronvalencia said:

@Thunder7151

Note that X1 has DirectX 11.X which is a superset of PC's DirectX11.2 hence why AMD released Mantle APIs for the PC.

DirectX11.2 basically means gimped by NVIDIA and Intel.

The comparison is between XBOX ONE and PS4. PC is not part of the comparison. PS4 doesn't have DirectX 11.2, Tiled Resources, or Mantle.

X1's DirectX implementation is a superset of PC's DirectX11.2. X1's DirectX 11.X includes low level access to it's GCN.

PS4 doesn't need DirectX 11.X/11.2 or AMD Mantle since it has AMD GCN i.e. PS4 has it's own AMD GCN based low level APIs with MS HLSL (for PS4's PSSL) *like* support.

Incidentally, AMD Mantle (low level APIs for PC GCN) also supports MS HLSL. AMD PRT (tiled resource) hardware is built into AMD GCN.

The common theme for PC with GCN, X1 and PS4 are the low level APIs for GCN hardware and MS HLSL support.

Since you can't copyright APIs, AMD could have based their AMD Mantle from X1's or/and PS4's low level APIs.

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#9  Edited By Suppaman100
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Rome is such a cool setting...sucks that Ryse looks mediocre at best.

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#10  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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It looks great... but it doesn't look better than Crysis 3.

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#12 rjdofu
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So what is your hype TC?

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Can't say I agree.

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#14  Edited By HaloinventedFPS
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It's because Crytek are gods at graphics

They have been putting tons of effort into Ryse's graphics, i believe they even rewrote Xbones SDK to squeeze more out of it

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#15  Edited By campzor
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killzone/infamous look better.

Sorry lems.

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#16 sebbi11
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Console graphics king for sure, character models beats anything we have seen on any platform.

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#17 LJS9502_basic
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Eh cut scenes...

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#18 casharmy
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despite not being 1080p Ryse does look great. But when we talk about the best next gen graphics Infamous: Second Son beats out every next gen other announced on consoles.

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@casharmy said:

despite not being 1080p Ryse does look great. But when we talk about the best next gen graphics Infamous: Second Son beats out every next gen other announced on consoles.

I hope those touch controls aren't required, seems much easier and more fluid to use one of the back buttons. But yeah, it does look nice.

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#21 LJS9502_basic
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Call me when it launches which won't be till sometime in 2014.

I love Sony Fan bringing up games that don't even have a solid release date. Also the only game that Sony has shown actually running on an actual PS4 is Knack. I also love all of the BloomZone posts about how open it is. Hey Sony Fan can you please educate us all on just "how open" BloomZone is? I am sure you can whip out some percentage that some PR person has told you.

The TC is correct Ryse is the best looking game on consoles hands down.

Why does a game need to be a launch title? Are you happy with a first onslaught of games...and then nothing? I really don't get this line of reasoning. A console needs games throughout the year. Not just once a year.

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#23 gpuking
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KZSF looks better with bigger scale, more particles and all at 1080p. Being at 900p automatically disqualify the King status.

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#24  Edited By casharmy
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@kuu2 said:

@casharmy said:

despite not being 1080p Ryse does look great. But when we talk about the best next gen graphics Infamous: Second Son beats out every next gen other announced on consoles.

Call me when it launches which won't be till sometime in 2014.

I love Sony Fan bringing up games that don't even have a solid release date. Also the only game that Sony has shown actually running on an actual PS4 is Knack. I also love all of the BloomZone posts about how open it is. Hey Sony Fan can you please educate us all on just "how open" BloomZone is? I am sure you can whip out some percentage that some PR person has told you.

The TC is correct Ryse is the best looking game on consoles hands down.

Thread Title = "Ryse has the best next gen graphics so far" Sorry your objection fails.

also Xbox fan can you please educate us all on just "how open" Ryse is? Infamous is verified 100% open world/sandbox and puts out this level of graphics all while being displayed at 1080p. What about physics/particle engine? Destructibility? InfamousSS eats Ryse lunch in several areas in technical graphics before even going into the overall look.

Saying that Ryse is the best looking game on consoles is laughable when you look at what InfamousSS is doing all while being an open world game. Sorry you and TC might have an argument for best looking game on Xbox 1 but not consoles.

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Whats so impressive about that? Sure it has some cool facial expressions and textures but when comes to lighting, post-processing effects, Anti-alising, resolution, etc, etc, Killzone SF is way more impressive than that. And take into account Ryse is almost an on-rails game wich takes some impressiveness about its graphics. Wasnt that what lems were saying about the PS3 exclusives throughout this all gen? Bunch of hypocrites

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#26  Edited By sebbi11
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Jiggling cheek, wind blowing in the background. So many amazing details, hard to believe its realtime.

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#28 FoxbatAlpha
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Ryse has set the bar and it's gonna take an X1 game to knock it of that mountain.

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#29  Edited By casharmy
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@Vatusus said:

Whats so impressive about that? Sure it has some cool facial expressions and textures but when comes to lighting, post-processing effects, Anti-alising, resolution, etc, etc, Killzone SF is way more impressive than that. And take into account Ryse is almost an on-rails game wich takes some impressiveness about its graphics. Wasnt that what lems were saying about the PS3 exclusives throughout this all gen? Bunch of hypocrites

That's true and Infamous looks even more impressive and is an open world game. The argument is silly really. When Santa Monica decides to do a linear hack and slash game of this fashion on PS4 people will probably be full of excuses and go back to the old argument "but it's a linear game, any game can look good like that" excuse which is strangely no where to be found among xbox fans hyping the graphics of Ryse.

Even tho InfamousSS is open world, it has equal or better facial expressions and textures (which is where Ryse gets all it's praise), InfamousSS is superior in all other technical areas you mentioned such as lighting AA, resolution etc.

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@kuu2 said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@kuu2 said:

Call me when it launches which won't be till sometime in 2014.

I love Sony Fan bringing up games that don't even have a solid release date. Also the only game that Sony has shown actually running on an actual PS4 is Knack. I also love all of the BloomZone posts about how open it is. Hey Sony Fan can you please educate us all on just "how open" BloomZone is? I am sure you can whip out some percentage that some PR person has told you.

The TC is correct Ryse is the best looking game on consoles hands down.

Why does a game need to be a launch title? Are you happy with a first onslaught of games...and then nothing? I really don't get this line of reasoning. A console needs games throughout the year. Not just once a year.

Then lets say Quantum Break as well then. It put Infamous to shame.

You havent seen any gameplay of Quantum break yet. You're trying way too hard

Oh and before you say that E3 video of QB was gameplay, it was not. It was in-engine and in-engine =/= in-game. And even so, it wasnt that impressive, really...

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#31  Edited By Sushiglutton
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Visually it does look great.

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#32 gpuking
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Xbone is trying to compete with PS4's graphics by dropping the res to 900p in hoping to keep up, yet still fails by a sizable margin. Nothing on Xbone can touch the following.

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#33  Edited By casharmy
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@kuu2 said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@kuu2 said:

Call me when it launches which won't be till sometime in 2014.

I love Sony Fan bringing up games that don't even have a solid release date. Also the only game that Sony has shown actually running on an actual PS4 is Knack. I also love all of the BloomZone posts about how open it is. Hey Sony Fan can you please educate us all on just "how open" BloomZone is? I am sure you can whip out some percentage that some PR person has told you.

The TC is correct Ryse is the best looking game on consoles hands down.

Why does a game need to be a launch title? Are you happy with a first onslaught of games...and then nothing? I really don't get this line of reasoning. A console needs games throughout the year. Not just once a year.

Then lets say Quantum Break as well then. It put Infamous to shame.

Quantum Break isn't an open world game, Dead Rising 3 is the only open world game on X1 so you can compare that and see what get's put to shame.

Quantum Break is something you would compare to what ever Quantic Dream puts out next, same type of games.

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#34 casharmy
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@sebbi11 said:

Jiggling cheek, wind blowing in the background. So many amazing details, hard to believe its realtime.

lol, that is a cut scene lem. There are no physics or anything going on in that scene, but yes it's realtime. So is this...

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#35  Edited By waltefmoney
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Yeah I noticed. Even cows on negoaf are admitting Ryse trashes everything on PS4 graphically. Crytek is second to none.

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#37 casharmy
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Having some more fun with lems hyping thier linear sub 1080 hack n slash golden child

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#38  Edited By NFJSupreme
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@casharmy said:

@sebbi11 said:

Jiggling cheek, wind blowing in the background. So many amazing details, hard to believe its realtime.

lol, that is a cut scene lem. There are no physics or anything going on in that scene, but yes it's realtime. So is this...

wait so the trees swaying in the wind and his shirt moving around to the reaction of his movement isn't physics?

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#39 gpuking
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That fat dude has a large low res flat texture on his chest for all the blims he's carrying, that's hardly nextgen worthy.

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#40  Edited By casharmy
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@NFJSupreme said:

@casharmy said:

@sebbi11 said:

Jiggling cheek, wind blowing in the background. So many amazing details, hard to believe its realtime.

lol, that is a cut scene lem. There are no physics or anything going on in that scene, but yes it's realtime. So is this...

wait so the trees swaying in the wind and his shirt moving around to the reaction of his movement isn't physics?

Unless you are really stupid or just started gaming this gen...you should know that cutscens process NONE of that.

The first gif I posted of InfamousSS where the neon particles were pulled from the lights during gameplay? yea that was physics

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Gif wars, swell.

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#43  Edited By gpuking
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@kuu2 said:

QB baby.

Oh its not gameplay though............

Oh it is not running on a PS4.............

Sony Fan and their ridiculous parameters.

Sony Fan should just say that if it is not on a PS4 it can't be considered as graphics king for consoles.

Typical Sony Fan.

Hey if we're talking about in engine then QB has nothing on KZ's renders.

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Console graphics whores, smh...

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#45 ZoomZoom2490
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posting cutscenes reminds me of Geow all over again.

how is it possible to turn this stupid after x360?

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#46  Edited By casharmy
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@kuu2 said:

QB baby.

Oh its not gameplay though............

Oh it is not running on a PS4.............

Sony Fan and their ridiculous parameters.

Sony Fan should just say that if it is not on a PS4 it can't be considered as graphics king for consoles.

Typical Sony Fan.

One question, where the gameplay?

What ever argument you come up with it doesn't matter, No one has seen any gameplay of this game. Infamous SS has actually been played (there is a reason why no sony fans are mentioning The Order) in front of people in a live demonstration on PS4...you are just hyping a cutscene that we know are running off PC

We aren't hyping graphics games that could all just be cutscenes running on a PC, at least Ryse has gameplay.

Typical xbox fan

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Gonna have to disagree on that one captain.

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@gpuking said:

That fat dude has a large low res flat texture on his chest for all the blims he's carrying, that's hardly nextgen worthy.

Actually if you watch the whole video the bottom chain is made out of 3D poly's, sways and casts a shadow.

Ryse looks the hell of a lot better than KZSF. Various journalist have already stated this fact.

Ryse has the best Next Gen graphics and KZSF really is not close to it. Also everybody wants to talk about linearity but half those KZSF pics are tiny UGLY corridors.