Saints Row IV "Refused Classification" in Australia

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#1 ShadowsDemon
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This is insane

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Even WITH the new R18+ rating that we got last year, it seems that SR4 isn't even acceptable for adult Aussies to play. While it says Refused Classification, the game isn't banned, meaning you are allowed to purchase it overseas (unoffically) but not 'display it openly'.

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What does SW think of this? As an Aussie I couldn't care less about SR4, but it's weird to see that adults, including myself (I recently turned 18) aren't even allowed to purchase games such as these. Weird.

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Crikey.Ā 

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#3 ShadowsDemon
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Crikey.Ā 

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I'm so glad I don't live in Australia...
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#5 ShadowsDemon
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I'm so glad I don't live in Australia... DerekLoffin
You can import the game....like people have been doing for a while now.
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#6 Sweenix
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lol

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#7 handssss
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[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]I'm so glad I don't live in Australia... ShadowsDemon
You can import the game....like people have been doing for a while now.

what if you liked to play Saints Row on the 360?
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#8 psymon100
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]I'm so glad I don't live in Australia... handssss
You can import the game....like people have been doing for a while now.

what if you liked to play Saints Row on the 360?

Could be imported from New Zealand.Ā 

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#9 handssss
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[QUOTE="handssss"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] You can import the game....like people have been doing for a while now. psymon100

what if you liked to play Saints Row on the 360?

Could be imported from New Zealand.Ā 

alright. I'll admit I don't really know how that whole region locking crap works. Never have to worry being in the U.S. Awesome news that's apparently not going to be a thing anymore if MS reversed that policy too.
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Oh come on...there aren't nearly as many d!ldo swords as there were in Saints Row 3.

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#11 GarGx1
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The Austrialian Government think that Australians are soft and can't handle sweary words and cartoon violence.

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#12 ShadowsDemon
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The Austrialian Government think that Australians are soft and can't handle sweary words and cartoon violence.

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Well, we made LA Noire, so..... :P
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#13 Trail_Mix
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Odd.

And here I found the Saints Row series to be quite tame compared to some of the stuff you see on basic cable.

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#14 muffin200
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The Austrialian Government think that Australians are soft and can't handle sweary words and cartoon violence.

GarGx1

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In fairness thats not why they banned it the reason was "interactive, visual depictions of implied sexual violence which are not justified by context," while I don't agree with banning it lets not confuse sexual violence with cartoon violence.

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What a joke.
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#16 Tokeism
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[QUOTE="handssss"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] You can import the game....like people have been doing for a while now. psymon100

what if you liked to play Saints Row on the 360?

Could be imported from New Zealand.Ā 

Or Hong Kong
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#17 ManatuBeard
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Most australians already import games because game prices there is ridiculous high, so i guess this matters very little to them.

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I hate our backwards ways.
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Australia is the worst place for gamers. Very glad that I don't live there. Beautiful country, but sucks for gaming.

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#20 simomate
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what if you liked to play Saints Row on the 360? ShadowsDemon

Could be imported from New Zealand.Ā 



alright. I'll admit I don't really know how that whole region locking crap works. Never have to worry being in the U.S. Awesome news that's apparently not going to be a thing anymore if MS reversed that policy too.

PAL is the european region code, but it extends to Australiasia which includes Australia and New Zealand.

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OH SAY CAN YOU SEE, BY THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT! :P

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#22 Jack-Burton
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Sucks donkey balls pal, get it from the UK, pretty sure after postage will probably work out the same. You would think after they finally got this R18 certificate, this would be a thing of the past, the ratings board don't seem to be as harsh on movies.
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#23 Tokeism
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Australia is the worst place for gamers.

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Yeah, no, its hardly the worst place for gamers
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lol

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#25 HyperWarlock
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Australia is the worst place for gamers.

Tokeism

Yeah, no, its hardly the worst place for gamers

Yeah, if you think Australia is the worst palce for gamers, you need to open your eyes. Look at Syria, the trade sanctions prevent digital sales of gamesĀ 

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Nothing of value was lost.

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Don't worry, GTA V will be out soon after.
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Lol,Ā Australia...One step forward, 15 steps back.

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#29 WilliamRLBaker
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Liked Saints row 1, Hated saints row 2, and though I said I'd never play it unless I got it free since ps plus had it free I've now started playing saints row the third...my god is it stupid and I hate it.

I wouldn't play Saints row 4 even if they paid me too.

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They allowed Duke Nukem Forever down there for f*** sake. :|
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#31 Ben-Buja
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This is insane

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Even WITH the new R18+ rating that we got last year, it seems that SR4 isn't even acceptable for adult Aussies to play. While it says Refused Classification, the game isn't banned, meaning you are allowed to purchase it overseas (unoffically) but not 'display it openly'.

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What does SW think of this? As an Aussie I couldn't care less about SR4, but it's weird to see that adults, including myself (I recently turned 18) aren't even allowed to purchase games such as these. Weird.

ShadowsDemon

German here, we had to deal with crap like this for decades.

Many games get censored in this country. In SR1 they made changes to the whole game. Removed assassin and rampage side missions, made dead bodies disappear after 2 seconds, removed ragdoll effects, bodies on fire smoked instead of burned also the multiplayer was limited to people with the same version, while GTA IV was released completely uncensored.

Gears 1 was refused classification as well, you could still purchase the UK version, but it wasn't openly displayed.

RE4 on Gamecube had a little sticker on the back of the box that said "100% the same content as the English version" which turned out to be a blatant lie. They removed the mercenary mode you unlock after beating the game, where you kill zombies for points.

It's been getting better though, TLOU was released completely uncut for example.

/rant

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#32 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="Cyberdot"]

Australia is the worst place for gamers.

Tokeism
Yeah, no, its hardly the worst place for gamers

Try Germany or Turkey. Hell, in Greece they tried to ban games altogether. :P
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#33 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="Jack-Burton"]Sucks donkey balls pal, get it from the UK, pretty sure after postage will probably work out the same. You would think after they finally got this R18 certificate, this would be a thing of the past, the ratings board don't seem to be as harsh on movies.

Nope, they're nowhere to near as harsh. Dredd, Django Unchained, The Shining and other films all got MA15+ here, which is INSANE, considering the content.
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#34 KungfuKitten
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The people putting these restrictions in place tend to be very worn men rather grumpy about the imminent prospect of death. They'll probably die soon and be replaced by slightly more modern people. You could try voting for people who make more sense, if there are any, but I hear that has very little impact. Especially if it's not costing them a ton of money.
We need research showing the influence of media on people and the influence of lack of media exposure. Then it becomes easy to be heard, and either they'll look the fool or bend.

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#35 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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PAL is the european region code, but it extends to Australiasia which includes Australia and New Zealand.

simomate

Australlia uses region 4 while most of Europe is region 2.

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#36 Timstuff
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You'd think that people living in a country where they live in constant fear of being slaughtered by adorable yet surprisingly deadly animals would have thicker skin when it comes to violent video games.
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#37 LustForSoul
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Poor Australians. :( This is my most anticipated game this year.
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#38 lostrib
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Lol Australia

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#39 ShadowsDemon
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You'd think that people living in a country where they live in constant fear of being slaughtered by adorable yet surprisingly deadly animals would have thicker skin when it comes to violent video games.Timstuff
It's the classification office, not us :P
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#40 stvee101
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I'll never understand what or rather WHO gives someone the right to deny responsible adults a legitimate means of entertaining themselves.

I'll guess the ratings board in Aussieland is rather like our BBFC here in the UK i.e unelected and largely unaccountable and still seems to have this rather strange view that these videogames are mainly for kids.

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#42 topgunmv
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Wtf was the point of making an 18+ rating then?

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#43 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="simomate"]

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PAL is the european region code, but it extends to Australiasia which includes Australia and New Zealand.

toast_burner

Australlia uses region 4 while most of Europe is region 2.

Though with games, it still works (as I've noticed this on many of my PAL UK games featuring the Australian rating).

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#44 faizan_faizan
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Who cares, just buy Watch Dogs or GTA V instead.
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#45 AmazonTreeBoa
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I don't care. I am not an aussie and I have never played a SR game and don't care to start now.
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#46 ShadowsDemon
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Wtf was the point of making an 18+ rating then?

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