Sales reality check (PS3 and 360 related)

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#1 CaseyWegner
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there are a lot of you out there who claim that the ps3 will surpass the 360 in ww sales by the end of this year. just to make sure you guys really know what you're saying, please tell us how far ahead the 360 is right now and how much of a sales boost the ps3 will need in order to pass it. once you post those numbers, do you still think it's possible?
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Maybe if the world suffers a RROD and people start selling there 360's I doubt the PS3 is catching up anytime soon this year.
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i think the ps3 will oustell the 360 on a month to month basis, but it won't pass the 360's total sales until sometime in 2009.
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#4 TekkenMaster606
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SO when the term 'worldwide' is used, that's NA, EU/AU/Other and JPN I assume. What I do know is that the Xbox 360 is currently dominating the big English speaking countries, The US, Canada, UK and AU. Now, that may not sound important but localizations between the countries is an easy feat because no translation is required...

Translation costs developers a nice chunk of change and once again the Xbox 360 has proved it's value to the publishers and devs.

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#5 beast667
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isn't 360 ahead of ps3 by close to 10 mil? i honestly have no idea.
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Agreed it's gonna take a LOT of months of PS3 outselling 360 for it to break even...
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#9 II-FBIsniper-II
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Along with this, you need to remind people what makes a specific system the winner.

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#10 TekkenMaster606
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In all honestly software is more important than hardware. It brings in tons of revenue from licensing and not to mention that's what's getting the third parties paid.

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i think the ps3 will oustell the 360 on a month to month basis, but it won't pass the 360's total sales until sometime in 2009.---OkeyDokey---

yeah true.

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#12 CaseyWegner
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come on. there's gotta be someone willing to play along here. we hear this so much.
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#13 Chutebox
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there are a lot of you out there who claim that the ps3 will surpass the 360 in ww sales by the end of this year. just to make sure you guys really know what you're saying, please tell us how far ahead the 360 is right now and how much of a sales boost the ps3 will need in order to pass it. once you post those numbers, do you still think it's possible?CaseyWegner

It's possible that it will pass the 360 by the end of the year, sure. Is it likely? No. Why would you make this thread?

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]there are a lot of you out there who claim that the ps3 will surpass the 360 in ww sales by the end of this year. just to make sure you guys really know what you're saying, please tell us how far ahead the 360 is right now and how much of a sales boost the ps3 will need in order to pass it. once you post those numbers, do you still think it's possible?Chutebox

It's possible that it will pass the 360 by the end of the year, sure. Is it likely? No. Why would you make this thread?

i made this thread to make sure cows actually understand what they're saying when they say that the ps3 will pass the 360 this year.

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#15 Yellow_Rose
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come on. there's gotta be someone willing to play along here. we hear this so much.CaseyWegner

Does it have to be a cow?

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#16 deactivated-587acdd100f19
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Wow, I love it. A mod giving cows a reality check. Shows you just how far the cows have fallen. :lol:
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#17 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]there are a lot of you out there who claim that the ps3 will surpass the 360 in ww sales by the end of this year. just to make sure you guys really know what you're saying, please tell us how far ahead the 360 is right now and how much of a sales boost the ps3 will need in order to pass it. once you post those numbers, do you still think it's possible?CaseyWegner

It's possible that it will pass the 360 by the end of the year, sure. Is it likely? No. Why would you make this thread?

i made this thread to make sure cows actually understand what they're saying when they say that the ps3 will pass the 360 this year.

If Ps3 got their big titles early in '08, it wouldn't be that for fetched. But Ps3 is getting those big ones too far into '08 to do it.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]come on. there's gotta be someone willing to play along here. we hear this so much.Yellow_Rose

Does it have to be a cow?

i'd like to hear it straight from them.

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#20 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]there are a lot of you out there who claim that the ps3 will surpass the 360 in ww sales by the end of this year. just to make sure you guys really know what you're saying, please tell us how far ahead the 360 is right now and how much of a sales boost the ps3 will need in order to pass it. once you post those numbers, do you still think it's possible?Chutebox

It's possible that it will pass the 360 by the end of the year, sure. Is it likely? No. Why would you make this thread?

i made this thread to make sure cows actually understand what they're saying when they say that the ps3 will pass the 360 this year.

If Ps3 got their big titles early in '08, it wouldn't be that for fetched. But Ps3 is getting those big ones too far into '08 to do it.

ok. give me the numbers and tell me again that it's not too far fetched.

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#21 jimm895
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It may not be this year but it could be next year. And then who really knows what's happening in the world wide markets.
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#22 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]come on. there's gotta be someone willing to play along here. we hear this so much.CaseyWegner

Does it have to be a cow?

i'd like to hear it straight from them.

No problem. This should be fun.

****grabs some popcorn****

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#23 deactivated-587acdd100f19
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Wait a second. Isn't Casey the mod that argues with the sheep about sales not being a valid form of ownage here?
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#24 beast667
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]come on. there's gotta be someone willing to play along here. we hear this so much.Yellow_Rose

Does it have to be a cow?

i'd like to hear it straight from them.

No problem. This should be fun.

****grabs some popcorn****

can i have some?

it doesn't look like cows aren't really willing to say anything. maybe they were just saying ps3 would pass 360 hoping no one would call BS on them. well you have been found OUT cows!

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#25 the_h_bomb
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I believe it's possible if they can come close in the USA, it's just improbable.

And just to get things straight Cows. If the PS3 fails this year it fails forever.

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#26 Prid3r
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Reality check :

360 is around 10M ahead of PS3 .

360 is outselling PS3 in US almost 2:1 each month .

PS3 barely sell over 50k in Japan per month .

Uk is still owned by the 360 .

Let say that by some Miracle . PS3 start outselling 360 in UK 2:1 ( and lets forget that US sales 2 time more then UK ) .

that would sorta mean that PS3 sell 50k over 360 each month . 50k x 12 = 600k . 600k x20 = 12M .

it would take the PS3 a little less then 20 years to pass 360 overall sells :lol: !

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#27 CaseyWegner
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Wait a second. Isn't Casey the mod that argues with the sheep about sales not being a valid form of ownage here?Ghost_Dub

i'm not talking about ownage. it's just that logic is being disrespected and that makes me sad. :|

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#28 Yellow_Rose
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Wait a second. Isn't Casey the mod that argues with the sheep about sales not being a valid form of ownage here?Ghost_Dub

You're missing the point of this thread.

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#29 hayato_
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I think what cows mean is that the PS3 will sell more than the 360 in 2008 because of the lineup of games that were supposely coming out, not overall

The PS3 catching up to the 360 is already over, it will never catch up. IF the 360 comes out with another console than maybe, I don't think were gonna see a PS4 anytime soon

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#30 deactivated-587acdd100f19
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[QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"]Wait a second. Isn't Casey the mod that argues with the sheep about sales not being a valid form of ownage here?CaseyWegner

i'm not talking about ownage. it's just that logic is being disrespected and that makes me sad. :|

Oh ok. You're right about the lack of logic here.
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reality doesnt really belong in SW....if cows think that the ps3 will catch up to the 360 this year.....then thats pretty much wishful thinking
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#32 Yellow_Rose
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Reality check :

360 is around 10M ahead of PS3 .

Prid3r

It's more like 8 million.

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#33 CaseyWegner
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I think what cows mean is that the PS3 will sell more than the 360 in 2008 because of the lineup of games that were supposely coming out, not overall

The PS3 catching up to the 360 is already over, it will never catch up. IF the 360 comes out with another console than maybe, I don't think were gonna see a PS4 anytime soon

hayato_

nah. they flat out said that the ps3 will pass the 360's total sales this year.

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#34 beast667
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[QUOTE="Prid3r"]

Reality check :

360 is around 10M ahead of PS3 .

Yellow_Rose

It's more like 8 million.

thats still a lot. even assuming 360 sales completely halt, ps3 has to sell around 8 mil to pass 360. I'm not even sure ps3 has 8 mil lifetime.
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#35 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]there are a lot of you out there who claim that the ps3 will surpass the 360 in ww sales by the end of this year. just to make sure you guys really know what you're saying, please tell us how far ahead the 360 is right now and how much of a sales boost the ps3 will need in order to pass it. once you post those numbers, do you still think it's possible?CaseyWegner

It's possible that it will pass the 360 by the end of the year, sure. Is it likely? No. Why would you make this thread?

i made this thread to make sure cows actually understand what they're saying when they say that the ps3 will pass the 360 this year.

If Ps3 got their big titles early in '08, it wouldn't be that for fetched. But Ps3 is getting those big ones too far into '08 to do it.

ok. give me the numbers and tell me again that it's not too far fetched.

You're the one trying to prove a point by making a whole new thread. How about you post the official world wide numbers then?

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#36 Yellow_Rose
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reality doesnt really belong in SW....if cows think that the ps3 will catch up to the 360 this year.....then thats pretty much wishful thinkingDante2710

I think this thread is giving the cows the chance to explain why it isn't wishful thinking.

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#37 Yellow_Rose
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You're the one trying to prove a point by making a whole new thread. How about you post the official world wide numbers then?

Chutebox

You're missing the point of this thread.

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[QUOTE="hayato_"]

I think what cows mean is that the PS3 will sell more than the 360 in 2008 because of the lineup of games that were supposely coming out, not overall

The PS3 catching up to the 360 is already over, it will never catch up. IF the 360 comes out with another console than maybe, I don't think were gonna see a PS4 anytime soon

CaseyWegner

nah. they flat out said that the ps3 will pass the 360's total sales this year.

They probably said it because of the user base of the PS2 that is around 120 million (and growing ). They might be suspecting them to jump off the fence later in the year and buy a PS3. Maybe some will buy PS3s, maybe some 360s. Im pretty sure some have already made thier choice, but 120 million is still alot.

Thats the only anwser I could come up with.

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#39 CaseyWegner
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You're the one trying to prove a point by making a whole new thread. How about you post the official world wide numbers then?

Chutebox

and nullify the entire purpose of this thread? no thanks.

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#40 Yellow_Rose
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Casey, you probably need to put "PS3 related" in the thread title to attract more cows here.
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#41 ultima-flare
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Using VGchartz...since we have no other source for WW numbers...Ps3 is at 9.22 million, 360 is at 16.48 million. 360 is ahead by 7.26 million. Lets say 360 sells another 7 million this year(like it did in 07), which is generous considering '07 was supposed to be its biggest year(according to all the so called analysts). That brings 360 to 23.48 million. Ps3 would need to sell 14.26 million. Possible? Yes, but highly unlikely. Ps3 may take off(for a variety of reasons) or it may not.

Granted, I haven't visited SW in a while, but I don't think I've seen enough people claiming that ps3 will surpass total 360 sales in '08 to warrant this thread. If there should be any "Sales reality check" thread, it should excist to point out that the U.S. isn't the only place games sale. Too many people think NPD=world wide sales. To put it in perspective, Sony sold roughly 40 million ps2s in NA, 40 million in Europe, and 20 million in Japan.

(And who are you fooling btw?)

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#42 CommanderTy
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I think what cows mean is that the PS3 will sell more than the 360 in 2008 because of the lineup of games that were supposely coming out, not overall

The PS3 catching up to the 360 is already over, it will never catch up. IF the 360 comes out with another console than maybe, I don't think were gonna see a PS4 anytime soon

hayato_
I think thats whats going on i could really care less about sales i hardly check into these kinda threads and post but with the lineup it might help sell systems as not overall but it could as well be neck to neck i hate fanboyz posting all the time the ps3 is beating the 360 or vis versa makes me kinda mad i want somthen good to read not some fanboy lookin for attention
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

You're the one trying to prove a point by making a whole new thread. How about you post the official world wide numbers then?

Yellow_Rose

You're missing the point of this thread.

I know exactly the purpose of the thread.

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come on. there's gotta be someone willing to play along here. we hear this so much.CaseyWegner

For a mod...this seems like trolling.

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#45 Yellow_Rose
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Granted, I haven't visited SW in a while, but I don't think I've seen enough people claiming that ps3 will surpass total 360 sales in '08 to warrant this thread. If there should be any "Sales reality check" thread, it should excist to point out that the U.S. isn't the only place games sale.

ultima-flare

The highlighted part makes everything said after it pretty much moot.

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#46 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

You're the one trying to prove a point by making a whole new thread. How about you post the official world wide numbers then?

Chutebox

You're missing the point of this thread.

I know exactly the purpose of the thread.

Which is.....?

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Using VGchartz...since we have no other source for WW numbers...Ps3 is at 9.22 million, 360 is at 16.48 million. 360 is ahead by 7.26 million. Lets say 360 sells another 7 million this year(like it did in 07), which is generous considering '07 was supposed to be its biggest year(according to all the so called analysts). That brings 360 to 23.48 million. Ps3 would need to sell 14.26 million. Possible? Yes, but highly unlikely. Ps3 may take off(for a variety of reasons) or it may not.

Granted, I haven't visited SW in a while, but I don't think I've seen enough people claiming that ps3 will surpass total 360 sales in '08 to warrant this thread. If there should be any "Sales reality check" thread, it should excist to point out that the U.S. isn't the only place games sale. Too many people think NPD=world wide sales. To put it in perspective, Sony sold roughly 40 million ps2s in NA, 40 million in Europe, and 20 million in Japan.

(And who are you fooling btw?)

ultima-flare

there's been a truckload of people saying it all year long. plenty to warrant this thread.

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#48 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

You're the one trying to prove a point by making a whole new thread. How about you post the official world wide numbers then?

Chutebox

You're missing the point of this thread.

I know exactly the purpose of the thread.

then why did you say what you did?

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]come on. there's gotta be someone willing to play along here. we hear this so much.Duo75

For a mod...this seems like trolling.

come on. there's gotta be someone willing to play along here. we hear this so much.CaseyWegner

From your guide to not getting moderated...

8. Bump. Don't do that. If you want your thread to continue even though nobody is posting in it, add something meaningful to it or just let it go and be sad for a few minutes. You could also try re-posting yourthread at a different time of day.

lol please don't hurt me :P

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]come on. there's gotta be someone willing to play along here. we hear this so much.Duo75

For a mod...this seems like trolling.

how?