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#1 nervmeister
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Which title do you think will sell more units?

From what I've gathered, both games have their own unique appeal to casuals. Yet at the same time, each has its own unique advantages that may govern how well they sell. For Gears 2, the name is already well established in the gaming world and thus already provides it with a significant following. As for LBP, Sony has undertook an aggressive advertising campaign of it, even going so far as to involve USA Today. It's not much to go on, but in the end I think both will sell very well, though I'm far from sure which will sell more.

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#2 johnnyblazed88
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Gears 2 will murder LBP in sales

I think Fable 2 has a good chance of selling more then LBP

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#3 cloudff7tm
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Gears 2. I don't think LBP even stands a chance to be honest.
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#4 SolidTy
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Well, there's more 360's out there, and less 360 exclusives(That target demographic, within genre) to compete with. The obvious answer is GeoW2, based on the fact the first one did incredible and this is the followup.
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#5 locopatho
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Gears will slaughter LBP. Established super popular game vs. new "kiddy" looking one. No contest.
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#6 SolidTy
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Gears 2. I don't think LBP even stands a chance to be honest.cloudff7tm

New IP vs. Established super seller.

More 360's vs. Less PS3's....why are we playing SALES ANYWAYS?

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#7 JackDaniels121
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Well, there's more 360's out there, and less 360 exclusives to compete with. The obvious answer is GeoW2, based on the fact the first one did incredible and this is the followup.SolidTy

Joke?

To the majority, there's only one widely known game coming out: Resistance.

The 360 has Gears, Fable (sold couple million) and Banjo (it did sell 3-4 million on the n64- see how it goes)

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#8 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Well, there's more 360's out there, and less 360 exclusives (in that genre) to compete with. The obvious answer is GeoW2, based on the fact the first one did incredible and this is the followup.JackDaniels121

Joke?

To the majority, there's only one widely known game coming out: Resistance.

The 360 has Gears, Fable (sold couple million) and Banjo (it did sell 3-4 million on the n64- see how it goes)

Lol. You think R2 has more hype than GeoW2?

Why are you talking about R2, Fable, and Banjo? This is about LBP the new IP, vs. GeoW2 the established system seller.

I am refering to demographics, when talking about exclusives.

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#9 GundamGuy0
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why are we playing SALES ANYWAYS?

SolidTy

I love this question? Because it's a good emperical measure for things that otherwise would be based purely on opinion?

Might I ask another? Why are we in SW and not actually playing games right now anyways? You can't play SW either.

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#10 PAL360
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Gears 2 will murder LBP in sales

I think Fable 2 has a good chance of selling more then LBP

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this^^

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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]Gears 2. I don't think LBP even stands a chance to be honest.SolidTy

New IP vs. Established super seller.

More 360's vs. Less PS3's....why are we playing SALES ANYWAYS?

i dont understand that logic. so we cant discuss anything we cant play?

forums = topics of discussion

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Well, there's more 360's out there, and less 360 exclusives to compete with. The obvious answer is GeoW2, based on the fact the first one did incredible and this is the followup.JackDaniels121

Joke?

To the majority, there's only one widely known game coming out: Resistance.

The 360 has Gears, Fable (sold couple million) and Banjo (it did sell 3-4 million on the n64- see how it goes)

So I guess nobody has heard of God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5 or Killzone 2?

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#13 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

why are we playing SALES ANYWAYS?

GundamGuy0

I love this question? Because it's a good emperical measure for things that otherwise would be based purely on opinion?

Might I ask another? Why are we in SW and not actually playing games right now anyways? You can't play SW either.

Okay, why are we playing BROKEN Sales?

LBP vs. GeoW2? lol.

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#14 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]Gears 2. I don't think LBP even stands a chance to be honest.ogvampire

New IP vs. Established super seller.

More 360's vs. Less PS3's....why are we playing SALES ANYWAYS?

i dont understand that logic. so we cant discuss anything we cant play?

forums = topics of discussion

Comparing these two franchises in sales is just silly. Discuss.

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#15 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

why are we playing SALES ANYWAYS?

SolidTy

I love this question? Because it's a good emperical measure for things that otherwise would be based purely on opinion?

Might I ask another? Why are we in SW and not actually playing games right now anyways? You can't play SW either.

Okay, why are we playing BROKEN Sales?

LBP vs. GeoW2? lol.

I think I'm going to pass on LBP now, It was on my list of must have games for the fall, but I think I'll wait for the first price drop or the million sellers price drop.

Now that is a good question. GeoW2 will sell 3-6 million, by my guesstimation.

LBP will be lucky to break 2 million by the end of the year.

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#17 MegaPigeon
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Gears 2-One of the 360's best selling games, has chainsaws, perfect for 360's demographic

LBP-On the less popular system, far from appealing to the console's demographic (aside from hardcore gamers and cows), its teh kiddeh.

Gears will probably win.

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#18 epic_pets
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Gears 2

but LBP will be the better game:)

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#19 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]Gears 2. I don't think LBP even stands a chance to be honest.SolidTy

New IP vs. Established super seller.

More 360's vs. Less PS3's....why are we playing SALES ANYWAYS?

i dont understand that logic. so we cant discuss anything we cant play?

forums = topics of discussion

Comparing these two franchises in sales is just silly. Discuss.

silly? no. with enough advertisement, you can sell anything

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#20 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]Gears 2. I don't think LBP even stands a chance to be honest.ogvampire

New IP vs. Established super seller.

More 360's vs. Less PS3's....why are we playing SALES ANYWAYS?

i dont understand that logic. so we cant discuss anything we cant play?

forums = topics of discussion

Comparing these two franchises in sales is just silly. Discuss.

silly? no. with enough advertisement, you can sell anything

Yep. Take Mercenaries 2 for instance. That game pretty much sucked and yet it still sold huge thanks to mad marketing.
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#21 X_CAPCOM_X
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]Gears 2. I don't think LBP even stands a chance to be honest.SolidTy

New IP vs. Established super seller.

More 360's vs. Less PS3's....why are we playing SALES ANYWAYS?

i dont understand that logic. so we cant discuss anything we cant play?

forums = topics of discussion

Comparing these two franchises in sales is just silly. Discuss.



Exactly. Do we even need to make a thread about this? Don't we as gamers know the market very well? SolidTy summed it up in about 11 words.
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#22 Dreams-Visions
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By the end of 2008? LBP will probably win, as it has a 2 or 3 week time advantage over Gears 2. that's 2 or 3 weeks of more sales than Gears 2 will have before 2008 ends. lifetime? Probably LBP. but Gears 2 will surpass it for some extended period of time. thing is, LBP can theoretically generate some amount of sales for the remaining lifetime of the PS3 console. IMO.
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#23 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]Gears 2. I don't think LBP even stands a chance to be honest.X_CAPCOM_X

New IP vs. Established super seller.

More 360's vs. Less PS3's....why are we playing SALES ANYWAYS?

i dont understand that logic. so we cant discuss anything we cant play?

forums = topics of discussion

Comparing these two franchises in sales is just silly. Discuss.



Exactly. Do we even need to make a thread about this? Don't we as gamers know the market very well? SolidTy summed it up in about 11 words.

ok, gamers. how many of you thought that 50 cent bulletproof would sell over a million? that the Wii would kill the ps3 and 360 in sales? hm... i guess you gamers dont know as much as you think.

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#24 leadernator
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LBP only has a chance for long run success. I don't think anyone other than people who follow videogames will notice this game at first.
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#25 diped
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Gears 2 will obviously sell more.


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#26 WAIW
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I think LBP could do it. It has that amazing Pixar-quality art direction that just screams cute, cuddley and casual. It's also very family friendly. I'm convinced both will be megahits, but taking into account the 3 week advantage DV mentioned, I think LBP could win in sales.
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#27 Adrian_Cloud
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LBP for five reasons.

1.RAted E
2.PS3 Bundle
3.Downloadable
4.Longer sales life
5.Ease of marketing

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#28 ogvampire
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LBP for five reasons.

1.RAted E
2.PS3 Bundle
3.Downloadable
4.Longer sales life
5.Ease of marketing

Adrian_Cloud

lbp is a downloadable game?

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it's hard to say because Gears is a proven franchise. you can pretty much say it'll sell like 6-7 Million.

LBP is a new IP with alot of potential, and if it sells that much it won't be right away. sony is going to have to market it well, and I see them bundling it with PS3 eventually. It all depends on how much sony pushes it. it'll be more of a long term thing with LBP.

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#30 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Gears 2 for sure.
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#31 WAIW
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it's hard to say because Gears is a proven franchise. you can pretty much say it'll sell like 6-7 Million.

LBP is a new IP with alot of potential, and if it sells that much it won't be right away. sony is going to have to market it well, and I see them bundling it with PS3 eventually. It all depends on how much sony pushes it. it'll be more of a long term thing with LBP.

Heydanbud92

They're bundling it, it's been confirmed.

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#32 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

LBP for five reasons.

1.RAted E
2.PS3 Bundle
3.Downloadable
4.Longer sales life
5.Ease of marketing

ogvampire

lbp is a downloadable game?

last time i heard they were doing both retail and PSN. just like Siren, Socom,Warhawk(?),Wipeout..etc

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#33 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

LBP for five reasons.

1.RAted E
2.PS3 Bundle
3.Downloadable
4.Longer sales life
5.Ease of marketing

Adrian_Cloud

lbp is a downloadable game?

last time i heard they were doing both retail and PSN. just like Siren, Socom,Warhawk(?),Wipeout..etc

EDIT: nevermind, i found the link i was looking for:

http://www.gamersreports.com/news/9103/sony-denies-little-big-planet-download-blu-ray-only/

not downloadable

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#34 Vaasman
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Gears 2 will take a massive dump on LBP sales wise.

Quality, I think both will be about even.

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#35 Kratos-PS3
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Gears 2 will murder LBP in sales

I think Fable 2 has a good chance of selling more then LBP

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#36 EVOLV3
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I think Gears will sell 5 mill. LBP 4 mill.
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#37 IG_Pug
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The release of gears 2 will not result in any significant growth to the 360 FPS market. The market for gears 2 is pretty well established. LBP is new and inavative. I have not played it but have heard it lived up to the hype. In the long LBP could gain alot of momentum.

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My friend with a PS3 has no idea what LBP is. So I don't know.

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#39 PrinceofSarcasm
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I think geow will ONLY BECAUSE their are more 360 units sold.
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Gears 2.
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The release of gears 2 will not result in any significant growth to the 360 FPS market. The market for gears 2 is pretty well established. LBP is new and inavative. I have not played it but have heard it lived up to the hype. In the long LBP could gain alot of momentum.

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I'm sure a lot of parents will buy a $400 PS3 and LBP for their children... oh wait. Most won't.
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Which title do you think will sell more units?

From what I've gathered, both games have their own unique appeal to casuals. Yet at the same time, each has its own unique advantages that may govern how well they sell. For Gears 2, the name is already well established in the gaming world and thus already provides it with a significant following. As for LBP, Sony has undertook an aggressive advertising campaign of it, even going so far as to involve USA Today. It's not much to go on, but in the end I think both will sell very well, though I'm far from sure which will sell more.

nervmeister

Gears will sell between 2-4 mil, Im thinking more towards two, probably 3

Im not sure about little big planet, I know it will be selling at least one since I will be picking it up

Ill be picking gears 2 up, but later since its not high on my priority list and Im already picking up fable 2 today and LBP when it comes out

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#43 mismajor99
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meh, who cares. LBP will offer what's lacking in a lot of games today,especially on console, and that's creatvity. Gears 2 represents what's wrong with this Industry, shoveling out the same BS every other year (see: CoD and MoH and EA Sports games etc..) in hopes to cash in on a first great game. It's a great business strategy, and you can't blame Epic for wanting to make large sums of money, but having creative games like LBP on the market will allow far more interaction and re-playability that Gears 2 could only dream of. I loved Gears 1, but it's not even close as to what's the better value, if you're a multi-console owner that is.

I think the attach rate of LBP is going to be very very strong, and I see it keeping pace with Gears 2, especially since we have Fable 2 and Fallout 3 coming out on the platform as well. I think once people play Fallout 3, many are going to wait until they finish it until they pick up Gears 2. As for LBP, It's the game to buy a PS3 for, very similar to what Gears 1 was for 360 when it came out. I see it moving tons of PS3's, that is, if Sony can market it in the coming months before the holidays.

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#44 mismajor99
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

Which title do you think will sell more units?

From what I've gathered, both games have their own unique appeal to casuals. Yet at the same time, each has its own unique advantages that may govern how well they sell. For Gears 2, the name is already well established in the gaming world and thus already provides it with a significant following. As for LBP, Sony has undertook an aggressive advertising campaign of it, even going so far as to involve USA Today. It's not much to go on, but in the end I think both will sell very well, though I'm far from sure which will sell more.

All_that_is_Man

Gears will sell between 2-4 mil, Im thinking more towards two, probably 3

Im not sure about little big planet, I know it will be selling at least one since I will be picking it up

Ill be picking gears 2 up, but later since its not high on my priority list and Im already picking up fable 2 today and LBP when it comes out

that's my strategy as well. I just picked up Fable 2, it's great so far..lovign it. Picking up LBP the day it comes out, can't wait, maybe it's the modder in me. I'll get Fallout 3 next week for PC, and I'll wait until Decemeber, maybe January for Gears 2 and FarCry 2(PC).

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#45 Toriko42
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Gears of War 2 will destroy it and sell more systems
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#46 WillieBeamish
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Gears 2 AND Fable 2 will destroy LBP in sales. This is a no-brainer.
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#47 IG_Pug
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[QUOTE="IG_Pug"]

The release of gears 2 will not result in any significant growth to the 360 FPS market. The market for gears 2 is pretty well established. LBP is new and inavative. I have not played it but have heard it lived up to the hype. In the long LBP could gain alot of momentum.

EuroMafia

I'm sure a lot of parents will buy a $400 PS3 and LBP for their children... oh wait. Most won't.

Yes They will.

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#48 DA_B0MB
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Gears 2 will sell more than LBP. Gears is a Halo calibur game now. We have yet to see how big LBP will be with people. I'd imagine it will sell well for a new IP though.
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#49 BrownWalrus
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:lol: i love this sale argument people use as though it will help them in any way enjoy the games that they spend their money on.

Who cares if a game sells more, does that mean you will enjoy it more?

LMAO it's just like sheep saying "oh well who cares that our system hasn't had any good games for a while and will have no good games this holiday season because at least it will sell the most!"

Man, those sales sure are fun to play eh?

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Gears of War 2 will destroy it and sell more systemsToriko42

Nope, I have to disagree with it selling more systems. It would be pretty ridiculous for a person who's wanted a 360 to wait for GeoW2 to come out before buying one and everyone I know who's wanted one has already bought one for either GeoW1, Halo 3, and COD4. I really don't see substantial growth to the Xbox userbase for a sequel to a game that was released this gen. A huge amount of software will be sold though, I'm guessing maybe a fourth of 360 owners will buy it.