Sam Fisher still cant sneak in King Snake's Castle!

Splinter Cell is supposed to be a realistic stealth game right? But how come Sam Fisher wears three green lights on his head and his enemies cant detect him in the dark? I mean the enemy AI is so bad. I mean I was sneaking and the enemies were pointing their flashlights in an already lit area and cant see 3 bright green lights on Fisher's head. Laughable. Especially his latest one Double Agent. Standing in the dark, 2 inches away from an enemy with 3 green bright lights and they cant detect you?

But in MGS the sneaking is more realistic. Enemies can detect you even while you are standing in darkness. Snake wears no lights on him and his enemies can still detect him. His camoflauge suit does not promise 100% stealth. Not only that, the sneaking in MGS is much more satisfying.

At last but not least, Snake is a better weapons handler than Fisher. He can use a broad variety of weapons. Fisher and his SCOK attachments and silenced pistol are laughable.

Now Splinter Cell Conviction is taking a new approach but we all know Fisher cant sneak up behind Snake. Snake would spot him across the world with those 3 green lights he wears on his head, ready his snipe rifle and put one in the mid-vein to the neck of Fisher.

Snake >>>>>> Sam Fisher

MGS >>>>>>> Splinter Cell

With that said, I love the SC series. Sucks how Conviction is becoming the most delayed game of this gen.

Splinter Cell is supposed to be a realistic stealth game right? But how come Sam Fisher wears three green lights on his head and his enemies cant detect him in the dark? I mean the enemy AI is so bad. I mean I was sneaking and the enemies were pointing their flashlights in an already lit area and cant see 3 bright green lights on Fisher's head. Laughable. Especially his latest one Double Agent. Standing in the dark, 2 inches away from an enemy with 3 green bright lights and they cant detect you?

But in MGS the sneaking is more realistic. Enemies can detect you even while you are standing in darkness. Snake wears no lights on him and his enemies can still detect him. His camoflauge suit does not promise 100% stealth. Not only that, the sneaking in MGS is much more satisfying.

At last but not least, Snake is a better weapons handler than Fisher. He can use a broad variety of weapons. Fisher and his SCOK attachments and silenced pistol are laughable.

Now Splinter Cell Conviction is taking a new approach but we all know Fisher cant sneak up behind Snake. Snake would spot him across the world with those 3 green lights he wears on his head, ready his snipe rifle and put one in the mid-vein to the neck of Fisher.

Ninten007

They are IR lights dumb dumb.

The three lights are for the gamer to beable to notice him.waynehead895

I guess some people dont like to do some diggin eh?

Splinter Cell is supposed to be a realistic stealth game right? But how come Sam Fisher wears three green lights on his head and his enemies cant detect him in the dark? I mean the enemy AI is so bad. I mean I was sneaking and the enemies were pointing their flashlights in an already lit area and cant see 3 bright green lights on Fisher's head. Laughable. Especially his latest one Double Agent. Standing in the dark, 2 inches away from an enemy with 3 green bright lights and they cant detect you?

But in MGS the sneaking is more realistic. Enemies can detect you even while you are standing in darkness. Snake wears no lights on him and his enemies can still detect him. His camoflauge suit does not promise 100% stealth. Not only that, the sneaking in MGS is much more satisfying.

At last but not least, Snake is a better weapons handler than Fisher. He can use a broad variety of weapons. Fisher and his SCOK attachments and silenced pistol are laughable.

Now Splinter Cell Conviction is taking a new approach but we all know Fisher cant sneak up behind Snake. Snake would spot him across the world with those 3 green lights he wears on his head, ready his snipe rifle and put one in the mid-vein to the neck of Fisher.

Ninten007

Im sorry but I got to correct a few things.

1.The lights on his night vison are for the player to know where sam is in the dark and the lights really arent there.There are no real lights on him

2.the sneaking in MGS isnt more satisfying.There are so many more moves you can perform in Splinter Cell games.

3.Sam Fisher does not need to use that many weapons.All he needs is a pistol and a rifel,along with a few other gadgets.

The three lights are for the gamer to beable to notice him.waynehead895

The game is already bright enough for you to be able to see Fisher.

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

Splinter Cell is supposed to be a realistic stealth game right? But how come Sam Fisher wears three green lights on his head and his enemies cant detect him in the dark? I mean the enemy AI is so bad. I mean I was sneaking and the enemies were pointing their flashlights in an already lit area and cant see 3 bright green lights on Fisher's head. Laughable. Especially his latest one Double Agent. Standing in the dark, 2 inches away from an enemy with 3 green bright lights and they cant detect you?

But in MGS the sneaking is more realistic. Enemies can detect you even while you are standing in darkness. Snake wears no lights on him and his enemies can still detect him. His camoflauge suit does not promise 100% stealth. Not only that, the sneaking in MGS is much more satisfying.

At last but not least, Snake is a better weapons handler than Fisher. He can use a broad variety of weapons. Fisher and his SCOK attachments and silenced pistol are laughable.

Now Splinter Cell Conviction is taking a new approach but we all know Fisher cant sneak up behind Snake. Snake would spot him across the world with those 3 green lights he wears on his head, ready his snipe rifle and put one in the mid-vein to the neck of Fisher.

terdoo

Im sorry but I got to correct a few things.

1.The lights on his night vison are for the player to know where sam is in the dark and the lights really arent there.There are no real lights on him

2.the sneaking in MGS isnt more satisfying.There are so many more moves you can perform in Splinter Cell games.

3.Sam Fisher does not need to use that many weapons.All he needs is a pistol and a rifel,along with a few other gadgets.

and those weapons have very limited ammo and there are no magic boxes which appear out of nowhere for you to hide

those lights are for us too see and know what position we are in, even SC devs said that, SC is the greatest stealth game series ever and no game is gonna touch itmingo123

You can see Sam Fisher regardless if he has green lights on his head or not. The game is bright enough. No it is not the greatest stealth game series ever.

Sam Fisher cant sneak between two opposing forces to complete his true mission. With all those checkpoints and loading times, the SC games do not flow as smoothly as the MGS series.

Hitman: Blood Money >>>>>>> all other stealth games.

oh, and if you're complaining about the green lights:

I think MGS is much better than Spinter Cell, but the first Splinter Cell was really awesome. I remember my cousin playing it on his brand new Xbox and having to sneak around over broken glass or something like that. Pretty need. I think the franchise has gone down hill alot since then though.

But although your original post was pretty inaccurate, I can agree I think MGS is a better stealth game.

[QUOTE="terdoo"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]

Splinter Cell is supposed to be a realistic stealth game right? But how come Sam Fisher wears three green lights on his head and his enemies cant detect him in the dark? I mean the enemy AI is so bad. I mean I was sneaking and the enemies were pointing their flashlights in an already lit area and cant see 3 bright green lights on Fisher's head. Laughable. Especially his latest one Double Agent. Standing in the dark, 2 inches away from an enemy with 3 green bright lights and they cant detect you?

But in MGS the sneaking is more realistic. Enemies can detect you even while you are standing in darkness. Snake wears no lights on him and his enemies can still detect him. His camoflauge suit does not promise 100% stealth. Not only that, the sneaking in MGS is much more satisfying.

At last but not least, Snake is a better weapons handler than Fisher. He can use a broad variety of weapons. Fisher and his SCOK attachments and silenced pistol are laughable.

Now Splinter Cell Conviction is taking a new approach but we all know Fisher cant sneak up behind Snake. Snake would spot him across the world with those 3 green lights he wears on his head, ready his snipe rifle and put one in the mid-vein to the neck of Fisher.

mingo123

Im sorry but I got to correct a few things.

1.The lights on his night vison are for the player to know where sam is in the dark and the lights really arent there.There are no real lights on him

2.the sneaking in MGS isnt more satisfying.There are so many more moves you can perform in Splinter Cell games.

3.Sam Fisher does not need to use that many weapons.All he needs is a pistol and a rifel,along with a few other gadgets.

and those weapons have very limited ammo and there are no magic boxes which appear out of nowhere for you to hide

But first you must pick up the weapons and find those boxes. You can go through the whole MGS series without picking up weapons or boxes and still sneak your way in.

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]The three lights are for the gamer to beable to notice him.Ninten007

The game is already bright enough for you to be able to see Fisher.

i may love metal gear solid, but sam fisher could kill snake in ways that he can't even imagine..

plus, i feel like splinter cell is more stealthy than metal gear solid sam fisher only has two guns..

as much as i love splinter cell they should remove those damn three lights, it kinda spoils it for me. im not that blind that i dont know which shadow i controlled my character into and where the damn camera is pointing towards.

other than that, splinter cell is top notch, although i hardly ever find myself using the gadgets. seems to make the game a lot easier.

i may love metal gear solid, but sam fisher could kill snake in ways that he can't even imagine..

plus, i feel like splinter cell is more stealthy than metal gear solid sam fisher only has two guns..

mlbslugger86

Just because Fisher has two guns does not mean he is more stealthy. You can go through a complicated warzone undetected with Snake, fire no weapons, and kill no one.

Fisher is usually sneaking into the enemie's compound. He cant sneak between two opposing forces battling.

And there is no way Fisher can kill Snake, Fisher cant even kill the MGS bosses.

i may love metal gear solid, but sam fisher could kill snake in ways that he can't even imagine..mlbslugger86

...if he could find him. OHHH BURN!!! WOOT WOOT!

lol jk.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]those lights are for us too see and know what position we are in, even SC devs said that, SC is the greatest stealth game series ever and no game is gonna touch itNinten007

You can see Sam Fisher regardless if he has green lights on his head or not. The game is bright enough. No it is not the greatest stealth game series ever.

Sam Fisher cant sneak between two opposing forces to complete his true mission. With all those checkpoints and loading times, the SC games do not flow as smoothly as the MGS series.

sometimes you cant see sam, unless ofcourse uve turned the brightness up :| and SC is slow paced, checkpoints dont matter much

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]

i may love metal gear solid, but sam fisher could kill snake in ways that he can't even imagine..

plus, i feel like splinter cell is more stealthy than metal gear solid sam fisher only has two guns..

Ninten007

Just because Fisher has two guns does not mean he is more stealthy. You can go through a complicated warzone undetected with Snake, fire no weapons, and kill no one.

Fisher is usually sneaking into the enemie's compound. He cant sneak between two opposing forces battling.

And there is no way Fisher can kill Snake, Fisher cant even kill the MGS bosses.

yeah ok that would work if i've never played a MGS...when was the last time you saw fisher fighting cyborg ninjas or fighting bipedal nuclear walking battle tanks???

if you've played both games you'd notice that splinter cell has more emphasis on stealth. i mean come on, they even have non-lethal weapons.

those lights are for us too see and know what position we are in, even SC devs said that, SC is the greatest stealth game series ever and no game is gonna touch itmingo123

*looks at 10/10 score for MGS4*

yup, you sure are right :)

I think MGS is much better than Spinter Cell, but the first Splinter Cell was really awesome. I remember my cousin playing it on his brand new Xbox and having to sneak around over broken glass or something like that. Pretty need. I think the franchise has gone down hill alot since then though.

But although your original post was pretty inaccurate, I can agree I think MGS is a better stealth game.

carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]

i may love metal gear solid, but sam fisher could kill snake in ways that he can't even imagine..carljohnson3456

...if he could find him. OHHH BURN!!! WOOT WOOT!

lol jk.

simple..just look under the cardboard box:P

SC may be the better "stealth" game,

But MGS kicks more ass than anything on the planet earth, so i dont care

R-Dot-Yung

Lol lol, you are only saying that because it got a 10. If it got a 7, I can imagine you saying "well MGS4 was an ok game, I still would have rated it higher though."

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]

i may love metal gear solid, but sam fisher could kill snake in ways that he can't even imagine..mlbslugger86

...if he could find him. OHHH BURN!!! WOOT WOOT!

lol jk.

simple..just look under the cardboard box:P

HEY! That was last gen. This gen it's a barrel. He would never think to look under a barrel.

lol.

Also how come the AI in MGS4 is so stupid yo ucan roll in a barrel over them yet they dont hear you. OR why can you pull out a cardboard box out of your pocket infront of a soldier or vechicle and become invisible to them. The AI wont care for a cardboax suddenly appearing on the road?

MGS4 AI = PHAIL

Also how come the AI in MGS4 is so stupid yo ucan roll in a barrel over them yet they dont hear you. OR why can you pull out a cardboard box out of your pocket infront of a soldier or vechicle and become invisible to them. The AI wont care for a cardboax suddenly appearing on the road?

MGS4 AI = PHAIL

IgorVitaly

Wrong! If your enemies see you put on a box/barrel they will come over and check you out, remove the box/barrel and shoot at you. You dont automically become invisible.

Second if they hear you walking around in the box/barrel they will come check it out. It does not make you quieter.

Looking at your past posts, you are just a MGS 4 basher.

Why come the MSG4 AI likes to get stuck on walls stare at walls? Also why do they suddenly forget you are there after 90 seconds. IgorVitaly

Splinter Cell is supposed to be a realistic stealth game right? But how come Sam Fisher wears three green lights on his head and his enemies cant detect him in the dark? I mean the enemy AI is so bad. I mean I was sneaking and the enemies were pointing their flashlights in an already lit area and cant see 3 bright green lights on Fisher's head. Laughable. Especially his latest one Double Agent. Standing in the dark, 2 inches away from an enemy with 3 green bright lights and they cant detect you?

But in MGS the sneaking is more realistic. Enemies can detect you even while you are standing in darkness. Snake wears no lights on him and his enemies can still detect him. His camoflauge suit does not promise 100% stealth. Not only that, the sneaking in MGS is much more satisfying.

At last but not least, Snake is a better weapons handler than Fisher. He can use a broad variety of weapons. Fisher and his SCOK attachments and silenced pistol are laughable.

Now Splinter Cell Conviction is taking a new approach but we all know Fisher cant sneak up behind Snake. Snake would spot him across the world with those 3 green lights he wears on his head, ready his snipe rifle and put one in the mid-vein to the neck of Fisher.

Ninten007

splinter cell- 8.6

splinter cell pandora tomorrow- 9.1

splinter cell chaos theory- 8.6

splinter cell double agent- 8.5

metal gear solid- 8.5

metal gear solid 2- 9.6

metal gear solid 3- 8.7

metal gear solid 4- 10

metal gear solid games have a better storyline albeit stupid, unrealistic, and confusing as it is, it works and i like it.

but splinter cell has it beat when it comes to gameplay and realism.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]those lights are for us too see and know what position we are in, even SC devs said that, SC is the greatest stealth game series ever and no game is gonna touch itII_Seraphim_II

*looks at 10/10 score for MGS4*

yup, you sure are right :)

scores dont mean **** when it comes to personal opinion

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]

i may love metal gear solid, but sam fisher could kill snake in ways that he can't even imagine..

plus, i feel like splinter cell is more stealthy than metal gear solid sam fisher only has two guns..

Ninten007

Just because Fisher has two guns does not mean he is more stealthy. You can go through a complicated warzone undetected with Snake, fire no weapons, and kill no one.

Fisher is usually sneaking into the enemie's compound. He cant sneak between two opposing forces battling.

And there is no way Fisher can kill Snake, Fisher cant even kill the MGS bosses.

you've never played double agent have you? you're in the middle east in a warzone sneaking around...

[QUOTE="Ninten007"][QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]

i may love metal gear solid, but sam fisher could kill snake in ways that he can't even imagine..

plus, i feel like splinter cell is more stealthy than metal gear solid sam fisher only has two guns..

jlh47

Just because Fisher has two guns does not mean he is more stealthy. You can go through a complicated warzone undetected with Snake, fire no weapons, and kill no one.

Fisher is usually sneaking into the enemie's compound. He cant sneak between two opposing forces battling.

And there is no way Fisher can kill Snake, Fisher cant even kill the MGS bosses.

you've never played double agent have you? you're in the middle east in a warzone sneaking around...

i would like to say two things

1:snake wouldown sam fisher

2:raiden would Own ryu hayabusa

lol you wouldnt need raiden my jan lee would own ryu

they are infared lights.

invisible to the human eyes.

you would know that if you took grade 8 science.

those lights are for us too see and know what position we are in, even SC devs said that, SC is the greatest stealth game series ever and no game is gonna touch itmingo123

I'm surprised people are even arguing this. MGS is not only the grandfather of stealth games, but also the master. Snake is way cooler than Sam Fisher, and easily much more badass-Sniper99-

it's not really stealth though, more action adventure.

i would like to say two things

1:Tie

2: Ryu Hayabusa would Own Raiden

lilboy561

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]The three lights are for the gamer to beable to notice him.Ninten007

The game is already bright enough for you to be able to see Fisher.