SCEA VP Wants More Content On Disc, Not DLC

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#1 Sollet
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Rob Dyer says only on-disc content ensures "100 percent of the users are going to get it."

Rob Dyer explained why he wants to see more content going on discs and less sold later on the Internet.

"That way, 100 percent of the users are going to get it. 100 percent," Dyer said. "What are we, north of 70 percent [of PS3 owners] on the [PlayStation Network] now? 73, I think. Microsoft probably the same... [That's] still a significant number of people that aren't able to get [it], whether they don't have broadband, whether they just flat out can't get on the network. Whether or not you do it, they're not using it. I want it on the disc, that way when they buy it, they get it. So, if I can do that, that's great."

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Finally someone in the industry that speaks for us gamers :)

Sorry if old.

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#2 SolidTy
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I'm DEFINITELY okay with not Paying for DLC whether on my new disc or not, so that's a good thing. :P

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#3 FIipMode
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Agree 100%
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#4 The_RedLion
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That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.
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#5 Pug-Nasty
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me too me too.

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#6 GreenGoblin2099
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I support this... sadly it won't happen now. If Sony starts to regulate this and make it mandatory, many devs will jump off the PS3 ship.

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#7 Miroku32
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Kudos to Sony, finally they said something good. If the dlc is free and available for everyone I wouldnt mind but developers choose to cut content and make people pay for it; all thanks to dear Microsoft who started the DLC trend.
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#8 xhawk27
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Most DLC is not done until after the game is completed. So does he want games to be delayed six months or more to get DLC on the disc. :?

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#9 vaderhater
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But his arguement is lost if its online multiplayer content.

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#10 ycole11
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I agree with Dyer. Nintendo is really good about putting lots of content into their games so it would be nice to see more games go this direction as opposed to putting dlc on the disc and making us pay for it later like so many companies are doing now.
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#11 BuryMe
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I;m glad to hear some one witha voice saying it.

I'm sick of content being left out of games just to sell it to people later on.

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#12 nervmeister
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That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.The_RedLion
Isn't priced DLC the dev's choice, not the brand's?
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#13 Modern_Unit
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.nervmeister
Isn't priced DLC the dev's choice, not the brand's?

Devs choice? See Activision

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#14 Ultizer
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Sony confirmed for god tier

activision will get butthurt by this and kotick will threaten to not make games for the PS3... again

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#15 Toriko42
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He's just making PR talk, he really wants moolah especially since he's friggin' SCEA
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#16 G-O-M-J
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lol PR.. cows will lap it up though.
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.

Huh? What's wrong with those endings? HR did a prequel DLC that got a 5.0 here....but that's not about the ending. UC2 DLC are mappacks/costumes/multiplayer modes :| GoWIII ending...maybe they are leaving room for another game?? I know it's PR talk, but at least try to make some solid statements.
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That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.The_RedLion
This. Sony should set an example with their own games before saying stuff like this
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#19 SaltyMeatballs
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Sure he would.
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That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.The_RedLion

He's talking about DLC that comes out the door with the game. How are you supposed to add DLC released 3-4 months down the road onto the disc? You aren't. You're just trying to find something to piss and moan about because you don't like Sony.

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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.93soccer
This. Sony should set an example with their own games before saying stuff like this

At least they're sayng something about it, something that ressonates with us the gamers as opposed to supporting some execs that coined this feral milking of the customer, continue supporting things the way they are and your next xbox will come with a coin slot

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#22 The_RedLion
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Huh? What's wrong with those endings? HR did a prequel DLC that got a 5.0 here....but that's not about the ending. UC2 DLC are mappacks/costumes/multiplayer modes :| GoWIII ending...maybe they are leaving room for another game?? I know it's PR talk, but at least try to make some solid statements.RavenLoud
In UC2 and HR case I was talking about their DLC in general.
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.Greyfeld

He's talking about DLC that comes out the door with the game. How are you supposed to add DLC released 3-4 months down the road onto the disc? You aren't. You're just trying to find something to piss and moan about because you don't like Sony.

Finally, someone smart.

Seriously guys, how hard is it to understand this when we've had news about some game with DLC already planned to launch on the very same day as the game?? Or games with "DLC" that unlock features already on the disc??

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[QUOTE="93soccer"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"]That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.Zaibach

This. Sony should set an example with their own games before saying stuff like this

At least they're sayng something about it, something that ressonates with us the gamers as opposed to supporting some execs that coined this feral, milking of the customer, continue supporting things the way they are and your next xbox will come with a coin slot

Yes, they are saying something about it, and doing the contrary.

That's even worse than just doing it. :?

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#25 vaderhater
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What is going on at Sony right now? Its like they are running around with thier cry faces on. Mabey they are fearing E3 or something?

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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.Greyfeld

He's talking about DLC that comes out the door with the game. How are you supposed to add DLC released 3-4 months down the road onto the disc? You aren't. You're just trying to find something to piss and moan about because you don't like Sony.

He is talking about DLC in general, he never specifies it being launch dlc.
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#27 GreenGoblin2099
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What is going on at Sony right now? Its like they are running around with thier cry faces on. Mabey they are fearing E3 or something?

vaderhater

Oh sure, that must be it... right as usual, v.hater. :roll:

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#28 blackace
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I;m glad to hear some one witha voice saying it.

I'm sick of content being left out of games just to sell it to people later on.

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Me to. Then you have to pay $5 - $10 for connect that should have been in the game to begin with.
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#29 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

What is going on at Sony right now? Its like they are running around with thier cry faces on. Mabey they are fearing E3 or something?

GreenGoblin2099

Oh sure, that must be it... right as usual, v.hater. :roll:

Thanks I knew you would see it that way.:):P

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#30 pppjjj
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I agree i hate DLC.:evil:

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#31 Makari
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Reading comprehension fail in this thread?

He's not complaining about the concept of DLC as a whole, if you read the interview. He's complaining that the actual content being sold has to be downloaded, and is thus inaccessible to people not on the internet. "Whether or not you do [DLC], they're not using [DLC]. I want [DLC] on the disc, that way when they buy [DLC], they get it. So, if I can do that, that's great."

Basically a Blu-Ray plug. (edit: also a vote in favor of EA's old 'buying content already on disc' strategy)

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#32 mariokart64fan
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good . . we need more of these types ofgames where the content is final on the disc,

its a waste of 15 to get 3 new maps when they could make a newgame and include 3 plus more ,

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That's why GoWIII extended ending is not on the disc, but may be DLC? And Heavy Rain's? And Uncharted 2's? I love me some PR talk.The_RedLion

because he works at sony doesnt mean its not drected at their own games. the devs can do what they want, hes just saying its smarter to do it that way

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I bet he wouldn't have a problem with you buying the DLC if it was already "on-disc" and you were just paying for a key.
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#35 Makari
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I bet he wouldn't have a problem with you buying the DLC if it was already "on-disc" and you were just paying for a key.KittenWishes
Yeah, that's exactly what he said he wants.
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It's called a GOTY/Gold edition... apparently Sony's execs don't pay attention to the industry, or they expect the other 70% to pay $50 for content that was previously DLC.

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#37 Chutebox
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Rob Dyer gets my vote for President of the United States if he ever runs.

Hell, he gets my vote for President of Earth!

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#38 Anjunaddict
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But plenty of Sony 1st party games have DLC :? Actions speak louder than words Sony.
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I bet he wouldn't have a problem with you buying the DLC if it was already "on-disc" and you were just paying for a key.KittenWishes
You just have to find some way to hate anything Sony related don't you? Even though he is saying something that ALL gamers want.
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hopefully SONY actually means it not another BS talk,but EVERY gamer must agree with this
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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]I bet he wouldn't have a problem with you buying the DLC if it was already "on-disc" and you were just paying for a key.Chutebox
You just have to find some way to hate anything Sony related don't you? Even though he is saying something that ALL gamers want.

Nothing wrong with DLC when its done correctly. He seems fine with 1st Party Sony games having DLC. Too bad for the babby.
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#42 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="KittenWishes"]I bet he wouldn't have a problem with you buying the DLC if it was already "on-disc" and you were just paying for a key.KittenWishes
You just have to find some way to hate anything Sony related don't you? Even though he is saying something that ALL gamers want.

Nothing wrong with DLC when its done correctly. He seems fine with 1st Party Sony games having DLC. Too bad for the babby.

Yes, he's being the baby... Of course there is going to be some DLC, it seems what he's referring to is DLC that is released at or near the game's release. Which is ridiculous.
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[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]I bet he wouldn't have a problem with you buying the DLC if it was already "on-disc" and you were just paying for a key.Chutebox
You just have to find some way to hate anything Sony related don't you? Even though he is saying something that ALL gamers want.

HE IS SAYING HE WANTS DLC ON THE DISC. he *wants* you to still have to pay for it and even still refers to gamers 'buying it' when it's on the disc. that is not what gamers want. rather, it seems to piss them off when publishers do that.
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#44 Parasomniac
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That's exactly why the PS3 exclusive RDR content is on the disc.
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good man
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#46 tomarlyn
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I don't know who that Sony guy is but I automatically love him. Although I'm sure having the space of a Blu-Ray disc helps back it.

Down with DLC!

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#47 psyko0815
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Agree 100%FIipMode
This. I'm tired of companies using DLC as a means to nickel and dime customers to death.

And go ahead and defend the companies (as I'm sure some of you will). Every time you do so, it just shows your ignorance.

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#48 godzillavskong
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Rob is now my favorite VP! I don't mind DLC, but it seems like it is becoming the norm to have a game hit the market, only to have DLC available @ launch?? Couldn'tthey have put that content on the disc? Oh thats right, then they couldn't have ended up charging us 89.99 for the game! I know we don't have topay for it if we don't want it, but what happens when they start making these games shorter and shorter, but with plenty of DLC to pay for? We'll be hooked thats what. All the praise goes out to this guy forletting his voice be heard, and someone with a lot of power at that.

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He's just making PR talk, he really wants moolah especially since he's working for a friggin' corporationToriko42

Fixed

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#50 InsaneBasura
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Finally someone in the industry that speaks for us gamers :)

Sorry if old.

Sollet

Well, what he seems to be saying is that he'd like 100% of the users to be able to pay for content rather than just 70%.