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#1 Lebron181
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WTF is up with the exclusive crap on the 360?

Why is Last Remnant exclusive on the 360 when it was said to be simuntaniously released!!??

Why is Star Ocean exclusive on the 360 when Japan is their home turf??

And why are the multiplatforms timed-exclusive on the 360 and getting the demo of Last Remnant??

Is square screwing with us? Did I miss a big joke? What's next? Kingdom Hearts a multiplatforms? If this is true, square can go to hell for all I care since they backstab their best fan ever!!

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#2 mowz00
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Money talks son.
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#3 Squall18
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I don't mind. I have tons of square enix games on ps2 and such.

Now, if the ps3 was the only system I had, I would be very angry, but it's not. So I don't feel too bad at all.

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#4 ReverseCycology
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Don't blame Square-Enix, blame Sony, they don't buy exclusives.

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#5 the-obiwan
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WTF is up with the exclusive crap on the 360?

Why is Last Remnant exclusive on the 360 when it was said to be simuntaniously released!!??

Why is Star Ocean exclusive on the 360 when Japan is their home turf??

And why are the multiplatforms timed-exclusive on the 360 and getting the demo of Last Remnant??

Is square screwing with us? Did I miss a big joke? What's next? Kingdom Hearts a multiplatforms? If this is true, square can go to hell for all I care since they backstab their best fan ever!!

Lebron181

lolz

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#6 imapieceofwood
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Don't blame Square-Enix, blame Sony, they don't buy exclusives.

ReverseCycology

Sony earns their exclusives!

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#7 sam280992
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Don't blame Square-Enix, blame Sony, they don't buy exclusives.

ReverseCycology

Oh just leave this place with your Sony bashing comments, and give us your PSN....

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WTF is up with the exclusive crap on the 360?

Why is Last Remnant exclusive on the 360 when it was said to be simuntaniously released!!??

Why is Star Ocean exclusive on the 360 when Japan is their home turf??

And why are the multiplatforms timed-exclusive on the 360 and getting the demo of Last Remnant??

Is square screwing with us? Did I miss a big joke? What's next? Kingdom Hearts a multiplatforms? If this is true, square can go to hell for all I care since they backstab their best fan ever!!

Lebron181

I'm sure this was Lemmings with the original Xbox and dont' forget the little fact that FF series is still exclusive to PS3 (when it will be released I have no idea......maybe when all the devs finish up all the X360 games lol).

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#9 BioShockOwnz
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Yesterday, Square Enix announced a couple games for the Xbox 360. Previously PS3-only Star Ocean 4 is indeed Xbox 360 bound. And multiplatform release The Last Remanent is getting released on the Xbox 360 first. Today, Square Enix announced it's upcoming "private party" in August that will be showcasing PS3, PSP, DS and mobile games. (No Xbox 360 titles, apparently!) Dubbed "DKΣ3713", the two-day Shinjuku event will be limited to only 2,400 attendees, picked by raffle through the Japanese Square Enix Members website. The event will have new demos and new trailers. Games that will be on hand are:

FINAL FANTASY XIII(PS3)
FINAL FANTASY Versus XIII(PS3)
FINAL FANTASY Agito XIII(Mobile)
KINGDOM HEARTS Coded(Mobile)
KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days(DS)
KINGDOM HEARTS Birth by Sleep(PSP)
DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY(PSP)
The 3rd Birthday(Mobile)
Sigma Harmonics(DS)
FINAL FANTASY VII ADVENT CHILDREN COMPLETE(Movie/Blu-ray)
Whew! Look at that, FINAL FANTASY XIII is of course still listed as only a PS3 title. And look, that rumor that FINAL FANTASY Agito XIII has been canned is not true. Just what Japan needs, more Final Fantasy. But where is Dragon Quest IX? Not listed, that's where! The event seems geared towards the FFXIII series and the Kingdom Hearts franchise.

Oh, and note, no clue what will be in trailer form and what will be playable - but we seriously doubt FINAL FANTASY XIII will be in playable demo form.

http://kotaku.com/5015354/square-enix-event-confirms-that-yep-ffxiiis-still-ps3-only

No reason to get mad.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ....takes a breath.... :lol: :lol: :lol: Upset fanboys make this forum so much fun
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#11 Floppy_Jim
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They're just timed, TC, no need to burst a blood vessel.
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#12 FireEmblem_Man
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Don't blame Square-Enix, blame Sony, they don't buy exclusives.

imapieceofwood

Sony earns their exclusives!

explain because if you can't, then you can't use that arguement especially from PR talk

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#13 Deevoshun
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Let me explain

First you get the Money, then you get the Power.

Once you got the power you get well... the games.

-Tony Montana/Deevoshun

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#14 ReverseCycology
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Here's a question, would you rather have one exclusive FF13 or have more than one exclusive like the games you've listed?

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#15 magiciandude
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Good Lord it's been a long time since I've seen one of these threads.

:lol:

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#16 -GhostMLD-
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u know, Square didnt betray anybody. They simply put their stuff on another console.

BLAME SONY. Its their fault they didnt lock them down. blame sony.

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#17 Lebron181
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Im not really mad about Star Ocean, that could come on PS3 since the series wasnt much of a seller on PS2, which had 70% of the console market.

What im mad about is why the hell is Last Remnant Timed-Exclsuive????? Square just said to be timed-excluisve!!!
This has probably nothing to do with the hardware or developing on the PS3, SO WHY!!!

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Im not really mad about Star Ocean, that could come on PS3 since the series wasnt much of a seller on PS2, which had 70% of the console market.

What im mad about is why the hell is Last Remnant Timed-Exclsuive????? Square just said to be timed-excluisve!!!
This has probably nothing to do with the hardware or developing on the PS3, SO WHY!!!

Lebron181

think about it. *******Square said they want to be fair this gen, not give any unfair advantage*******.

WHat do you think would happen if Last Remnant released simultaneously. mPS3 would get 80% of the sales easily, where as the 360 version will flop.

This way, the 360 version gets a nice boost for being the only version on the market. WHen PS3 version shiops later, itll still get decent sales.

Thats why. Square wants to give 360 a proper chance.

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#19 mastersword007
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WTF is up with the exclusive crap on the 360?

Why is Last Remnant exclusive on the 360 when it was said to be simuntaniously released!!??

Why is Star Ocean exclusive on the 360 when Japan is their home turf??

And why are the multiplatforms timed-exclusive on the 360 and getting the demo of Last Remnant??

Is square screwing with us? Did I miss a big joke? What's next? Kingdom Hearts a multiplatforms? If this is true, square can go to hell for all I care since they backstab their best fan ever!!

Lebron181


Go SE!
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#20 ReverseCycology
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Im not really mad about Star Ocean, that could come on PS3 since the series wasnt much of a seller on PS2, which had 70% of the console market.

What im mad about is why the hell is Last Remnant Timed-Exclsuive????? Square just said to be timed-excluisve!!!
This has probably nothing to do with the hardware or developing on the PS3, SO WHY!!!

Lebron181

Maybe they're waiting for more people to buy a PS3 so their time and effort making the PS3 version won't be in vain. Like you said, one of their game wasn't much of a seller on the previous Playstation console.

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#21 sam280992
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[QUOTE="Lebron181"]

Im not really mad about Star Ocean, that could come on PS3 since the series wasnt much of a seller on PS2, which had 70% of the console market.

What im mad about is why the hell is Last Remnant Timed-Exclsuive????? Square just said to be timed-excluisve!!!
This has probably nothing to do with the hardware or developing on the PS3, SO WHY!!!

ReverseCycology

Maybe they're waiting for more people to buy a PS3 so their time and effort making the PS3 version won't be in vain. Like you said, one of their game wasn't much of a seller on the previous Playstation console.

Why are you ignoring me? Can I have your PSN please? :oops:

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#22 st1ka
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They're just timed, TC, no need to burst a blood vessel.Floppy_Jim

star ocean isnt and neither is infinte if im not mistaken

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#23 dotWithShoes
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WTF is up with the exclusive crap on the 360?

Why is Last Remnant exclusive on the 360 when it was said to be simuntaniously released!!??

Why is Star Ocean exclusive on the 360 when Japan is their home turf??

And why are the multiplatforms timed-exclusive on the 360 and getting the demo of Last Remnant??

Is square screwing with us? Did I miss a big joke? What's next? Kingdom Hearts a multiplatforms? If this is true, square can go to hell for all I care since they backstab their best fan ever!!

Lebron181

No, Wii exclusive.

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#24 Lebron181
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[QUOTE="Lebron181"]

Im not really mad about Star Ocean, that could come on PS3 since the series wasnt much of a seller on PS2, which had 70% of the console market.

What im mad about is why the hell is Last Remnant Timed-Exclsuive????? Square just said to be timed-excluisve!!!
This has probably nothing to do with the hardware or developing on the PS3, SO WHY!!!

ReverseCycology

Maybe they're waiting for more people to buy a PS3 so their time and effort making the PS3 version won't be in vain. Like you said, one of their game wasn't much of a seller on the previous Playstation console.

Then why release it timed-exclusive on the 360 which would not even sell 500k?

PS2 had a huge fanbase but Star Ocean didnt even sell well... On 360 it will definantly flop in sales....

Whats wrong with multiplatforms? 360 already has Infinite Undescovery!!!

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this is why its timed.

*******Square said they want to be fair this gen, not give any unfair advantage*******.

WHat do you think would happen if Last Remnant released simultaneously. mPS3 would get 80% of the sales easily, where as the 360 version will flop.

This way, the 360 version gets a nice boost for being the only version on the market. WHen PS3 version shiops later, itll still get decent sales.

Thats why. Square wants to give 360 a proper chance.

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#26 BlaveBrave
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Well I said screw you Square for different reasons than that.

- Not bringing final fantasy and chrono trigger to VC (wanting to milk remakes >_>)

- Destroying the Mana name

- FF series becoming lackluster since FF8 IMO

All that said I will still probably buy their games >_>

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this is why its timed.

*******Square said they want to be fair this gen, not give any unfair advantage*******.

WHat do you think would happen if Last Remnant released simultaneously. mPS3 would get 80% of the sales easily, where as the 360 version will flop.

This way, the 360 version gets a nice boost for being the only version on the market. WHen PS3 version shiops later, itll still get decent sales.

Thats why. Square wants to give 360 a proper chance.

-GhostMLD-

Or MS gave them a nice check...if SE was really that thoughtful they would have tried to help the Xbox.

Sony snoozed or they do not have enough free cash to buy exclusives, whatever the case they messed up. The fact that SO4 is exclusive is what is shocking.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]They're just timed, TC, no need to burst a blood vessel.st1ka

star ocean isnt and neither is infinte if im not mistaken

I meant the Last Remant not I.U. I think it's likely that S.O. 4 will be on the PS3 one day, probably in 2010.

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#29 DaBrainz
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SE always goes where the mainstream market goes. I'm sure they thought PS3 would be more poplular like PS1 and PS2 but now they are shifting towards the other consoles. Remember when Nintendo was the most popular it had the FF games.
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#30 -GhostMLD-
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

this is why its timed.

*******Square said they want to be fair this gen, not give any unfair advantage*******.

WHat do you think would happen if Last Remnant released simultaneously. mPS3 would get 80% of the sales easily, where as the 360 version will flop.

This way, the 360 version gets a nice boost for being the only version on the market. WHen PS3 version shiops later, itll still get decent sales.

Thats why. Square wants to give 360 a proper chance.

Kahuna_1

Or MS gave them a nice check...if SE was really that thoughtful they would have tried to help the Xbox.

Sony snoozed or they do not have enough free cash to buy exclusives, whatever the case they messed up. The fact that SO4 is exclusive is what is shocking.

probably both reasons. Last Remnant would definately perform better on 360 only during the holidays. Either way, Square is giving 360 a fair chance.

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#31 vicmackey39
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i can't wait until kingdom hearts gets announced for the Wii. Even though I hate the series and don't care where it goes it'll be worth it for the entertainment value alone
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#32 Kook18
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Oh god I love this. Please stay a fanboy, it makes life so entertaining to see people complaining about games moving from one system to another instead of just following those games.
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#33 rybe1025
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i can't wait until kingdom hearts gets announced for the Wii. Even though I hate the series and don't care where it goes it'll be worth it for the entertainment value alonevicmackey39
I agree that will be great. Cows ( at least most ) are 100% sure comming to the PS3 but they thought the same about SO4
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#34 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]They're just timed, TC, no need to burst a blood vessel.Floppy_Jim

star ocean isnt and neither is infinte if im not mistaken

I meant the Last Remant not I.U. I think it's likely that S.O. 4 will be on the PS3 one day, probably in 2010.

there is a possibility yes, but if star ocean is a "timed exclusive" then so is tekken

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#35 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]They're just timed, TC, no need to burst a blood vessel.st1ka

star ocean isnt and neither is infinte if im not mistaken

I meant the Last Remant not I.U. I think it's likely that S.O. 4 will be on the PS3 one day, probably in 2010.

there is a possibility yes, but if star ocean is a "timed exclusive" then so is tekken

Tekken? Well, anything can happen, but Tekken has been with the PS consoles since day one. It would make absolutely no sense for Sony to lose that. Sony did say they would start paying for exclusives so I don't see them losing Tekken.

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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]They're just timed, TC, no need to burst a blood vessel.Floppy_Jim

star ocean isnt and neither is infinte if im not mistaken

I meant the Last Remant not I.U. I think it's likely that S.O. 4 will be on the PS3 one day, probably in 2010.

there is a possibility yes, but if star ocean is a "timed exclusive" then so is tekken

Tekken? Well, anything can happen, but Tekken has been with the PS consoles since day one. It would make absolutely no sense for Sony to lose that. Sony did say they would start paying for exclusives so I don't see them losing Tekken.

im just saying, if star ocean is a "timed exclusive" because the devs say "we are undecided" then the same goes to tekken

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#37 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]They're just timed, TC, no need to burst a blood vessel.st1ka

star ocean isnt and neither is infinte if im not mistaken

I meant the Last Remant not I.U. I think it's likely that S.O. 4 will be on the PS3 one day, probably in 2010.

there is a possibility yes, but if star ocean is a "timed exclusive" then so is tekken

That link right there is the perfect thing to hush all these cows saying it is a timed exclusive.
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#38 mingo123
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it seems cows have totally forgotten about MGS4 release tomorrow and are currently burning like hell from inside lol all coz of some lame games being timed exclusive on 360

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Waaaaaaaa!!!!!! Here, I found your bottle. :)
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#40 cosmostein77
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Sony's user base ain't what it used to be,

Releasing games on 360 and then PS3 gives you more consumers to buy your product.

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[QUOTE="Lebron181"]

Im not really mad about Star Ocean, that could come on PS3 since the series wasnt much of a seller on PS2, which had 70% of the console market.

What im mad about is why the hell is Last Remnant Timed-Exclsuive????? Square just said to be timed-excluisve!!!
This has probably nothing to do with the hardware or developing on the PS3, SO WHY!!!

-GhostMLD-

think about it. *******Square said they want to be fair this gen, not give any unfair advantage*******.

WHat do you think would happen if Last Remnant released simultaneously. mPS3 would get 80% of the sales easily, where as the 360 version will flop.

This way, the 360 version gets a nice boost for being the only version on the market. WHen PS3 version shiops later, itll still get decent sales.

Thats why. Square wants to give 360 a proper chance.

or you can just see reality......they paid se $$$$. This whole "not giving them an unfair advantage"....lol. You guys actually buy that crap. Like they are doing this because of honor or somethign....they are a business for crying out loud. Everythign revolves around $$$$. If they are giving timed or flat out exclusivity, it's because MS paid them for it. Whether than payment is development costs or paying for all the marketing, its still a payoff.

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#42 Mr_BillGates
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I don't get why yaw dissing Square when their best game is exclusive to PS3. :/ Share the games dammit.
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#43 buuzer0
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Crying like a baby ftl :cry:

:lol:

I hope this topic was created by a fakeboy because if not.... :lol: again.

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#44 siafni
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Don't blame Square-Enix, blame Sony, they don't buy exclusives.

ReverseCycology

I second that.

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#45 -GhostMLD-
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Don't blame Square-Enix, blame Sony, they don't buy exclusives.

siafni

I second that.

square is blameless, they go where the payoffs are like any other company.

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#46 Lionheart08
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Well, TC, you have three choices to make now.

A) Whine about it just like you are now
B) Stop whinning and hope they end up on the PS3 soon
C) Invest in the 360

After these recent transitions, I'm going with C.

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The grim fact is, the PS3 is in no position to maintain high-cost exclusives - all of the Sony lies, analyst bull, and paid-off editors in the world can't make Sony's fantasy-miracle (the PS3 taking off and beating the Wii) happen. The reality is, the PS3 with some work will be in the 360's shoes at the end of the gen - and you will see a vast majority of titles (yes, from Square-Enix as well) that will be 360 - PS3 multiplat, or 360 - PS3 - PC multiplat.

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High-end, high-visual games cost too much money to be exclusively on a system with games sales as low as we see on the PS3 - they *must* go multiplat to make money, and that is what they will do. You haven't been "screwed over" by Square-Enix - you were screwed over by Sony when they lied (yes - lied) to you about how successful their system would be, and promised to deliver a gaming library they won't be able to deliver.

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However, I don't see what difference it honestly makes so long as you still get the games - yes, you can be mad at Sony, but exclusivity hardly matters so long as you get the game at all. Now, if you get the games *late* you still ahve no one to blame but Sony - had they managed the PS3 better, you would get the games that were expected sooner.

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#48 Kook18
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Until you can provide proof the SE was paid off, those are baseless claims and you're just grasping for straws now. Its pretty sad when the only defense you have is one you have no proof of.
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The grim fact is, the PS3 is in no position to maintain high-cost exclusives - all of the Sony lies, analyst bull, and paid-off editors in the world can't make Sony's fantasy-miracle (the PS3 taking off and beating the Wii) happen. The reality is, the PS3 with some work will be in the 360's shoes at the end of the gen - and you will see a vast majority of titles (yes, from Square-Enix as well) that will be 360 - PS3 multiplat, or 360 - PS3 - PC multiplat.

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High-end, high-visual games cost too much money to be exclusively on a system with games sales as low as we see on the PS3 - they *must* go multiplat to make money, and that is what they will do. You haven't been "screwed over" by Square-Enix - you were screwed over by Sony when they lied (yes - lied) to you about how successful their system would be, and promised to deliver a gaming library they won't be able to deliver.

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However, I don't see what difference it honestly makes so long as you still get the games - yes, you can be mad at Sony, but exclusivity hardly matters so long as you get the game at all. Now, if you get the games *late* you still ahve no one to blame but Sony - had they managed the PS3 better, you would get the games that were expected sooner.

subrosian

Waaaa :cry: Sony lied to us Waaaaa, Do you really think that Sony was counting on the PS3 getting its butt kicked by the Wii? They underestimated the competition. I especially remember one quote I read in my magazine before the PS3 came out. "Microsoft is aiming for the Moon. We are aiming for the Sun" They were on top last gen and the gen before that, Of course they were gonna be arrogant. Most people get arrogant when they are on top, especially for ten years. They expected to win the whole thing without any competition, they expected the devs all backing Sony again and making many exclusives. They guessed wrong, they made a mistake, everyone makes mistakes you know. I'm perfectly happy with this gen anyway, I owned a PS2 last gen and a Nintendo 64 before that, But I was really quite young during those years and I just played any crap that came my way.

P.S Being able to turn off and turn on my PS3 with the controller is a God given gift, Thats one improvement which I loved so much. (I'm extremely Lazy while I play games)

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Square Enix has always been loyal to what console sells the most...oh wait! Yep, they were loyal to PS1 and PS2, but not to Wii of course. They are becoming loyal to Xbox 360 even though lemmings have proven they like Western rpgs far more than Japanese rpgs. Makes a lot of sense to me!

Then again, maybe Microsoft is handing Square Enix a lot of money...