Secret of Mana --- The only GREAT Mana game ever made.

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#1 AvIdGaMeR444
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Dawn of Mana, Children of Mana, Sword of Mana all pale greatly in comparison.  I know that they are completely different games, and I know that a couple of these had different developers than Square.  However, Dawn of Mana was developed by Square Enix, and it is the WORST of all the Mana games.  It scored a 5.1 here.  WTF happened?  Secret of Mana is one of the best RPGs of the 16-bit era and arguably one of the top 10 greatest of all time.  All the other Mana games....meh. 
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I would have to agree. Secret of Mana owned :)
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I still have my original SNES cartridge.

 

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#4 XaosII
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The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played.
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#5 Runningflame570
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Legend of Mana is supposed to be pretty good.
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#6 SmashBrosLegend
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The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played.XaosII

I'm positive it was released in the US. I have a copy of it, and it's an original US cartridge. 

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The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played.XaosII

Yes it did :|

Here is the US boxart...

http://www.square-haven.com/games/snes/som/index/som-us.jpg

 

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[QUOTE="XaosII"]The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played.AvIdGaMeR444

Yes it did :|

There was one not released in the US. Part 3. 

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#10 aroxx_ab
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Agree Secret of mana was very good, Chrono trigger was not that bad either,
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#11 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played.XaosII

Yes it did :|

There was one not released in the US. Part 3. 

You specifically said "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES".  Based on that statement, you are COMPLETELY WRONG.  It DID release in the U.S. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_of_mana

"Secret of Mana, known in Japan as Seiken Densetsu 2 (聖剣伝説2, Seiken Densetsu Tsū?, lit. "Legend of the Holy Sword 2"), is the second video game in the Mana series of console role-playing game developed and published by Square Co., Ltd. (now Square Enix Co., Ltd.), the first game of the series on the Super Nintendo Entertainment Systemand the only Mana game released on this platform outside Japan."

So, what were you trying to say again?

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#12 rowzzr
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secret of mana was boring.

1. the characters' dialogue made it look rushed.

2. the story wasn't very good, wasn't very appealing, wasn't enough to keep me playing a lnog time, and to keep me from falling asleep just pressing buttons and walking and running around.

3. they kept me going from place to place, as to not much reason why. which made me go like, "why should i?" they just kept saying, "go to..."

i only recently played it. and don't say it was old, so it had old game mechanics. well, chrono trigger was old, too. and i can say, it beats most RPG's in this time.

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Ok, maybe I'm slow...Part 3? What does that mean? You specifically said "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Based on that statement, you are COMPLETELY WRONG. It DID release in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_of_mana

"Secret of Mana, known in Japan as Seiken Densetsu 2 (聖剣伝説2, Seiken Densetsu Tsū?, lit. "Legend of the Holy Sword 2"), is the second video game in the Mana series of console role-playing game developed and published by Square Co., Ltd. (now Square Enix Co., Ltd.), the first game of the series on the Super Nintendo Entertainment Systemand the only Mana game released on this platform outside Japan."

So, what were you trying to say again?

AvIdGaMeR444

Seiken Densetsu 3

Seiken Densetsu 3 (聖剣伝説3), often unofficially referred to as Secret of Mana 2,[2][3] was released for the Super Famicom (the Japanese version of the Super NES) on September 30, 1995. It was never officially released outside of Japan, although an English languagefan translation was released by Neill Corlett in 2000. Seiken Densetsu 3 introduced a degree of nonlinearity to the series, allowing players to choose a party of three members, from a total of six characters. A total of three distinct storylines are available.

I've played it. And its easily much better than the US only released Secret of Mana.

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#14 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Ok, maybe I'm slow...Part 3? What does that mean? You specifically said "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Based on that statement, you are COMPLETELY WRONG. It DID release in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_of_mana

"Secret of Mana, known in Japan as Seiken Densetsu 2 (聖剣伝説2, Seiken Densetsu Tsū?, lit. "Legend of the Holy Sword 2"), is the second video game in the Mana series of console role-playing game developed and published by Square Co., Ltd. (now Square Enix Co., Ltd.), the first game of the series on the Super Nintendo Entertainment Systemand the only Mana game released on this platform outside Japan."

So, what were you trying to say again?

XaosII

Seiken Densetsu 3

Seiken Densetsu 3 (聖剣伝説3), often unofficially referred to as Secret of Mana 2,[2][3] was released for the Super Famicom (the Japanese version of the Super NES) on September 30, 1995. It was never officially released outside of Japan, although an English languagefan translation was released by Neill Corlett in 2000. Seiken Densetsu 3 introduced a degree of nonlinearity to the series, allowing players to choose a party of three members, from a total of six characters. A total of three distinct storylines are available.

I've played it. And its easily much better than the US only released Secret of Mana.

Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage.  You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES".  Like I said, that statement is wrong.  You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US.  But you didn't.  That is why I was confused. 

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Seiken Densetsu 3 was easily just as good (If not better) Than Secret of Mana. 
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Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused. AvIdGaMeR444

I really dont see how can it be confusing...

I never said "Secret of Mana was never released to the US." I said "The Secret of Mana never released." I obviously wasnt talking about the first one which is not "The Secret of Mana never released."

EDIT: Oh, ok... i realize where the confusion might be. I wasnt referring to the game "The Secret of Mana" but the series "Secret of Mana." Its "The 'Secret of Mana' that was never released to the US...blah blah."

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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused. XaosII

I really dont see how can it be confusing...

I never said "Secret of Mana was never released to the US." I said "The Secret of Mana never released." I obviously wasnt talking about the first one which is not "The Secret of Mana never released."

EDIT: Oh, ok... i realize where the confusion might be. I wasnt referring to the game "The Secret of Mana" but the series "Secret of Mana." Its "The 'Secret of Mana' that was never released to the US...blah blah."

You said...and I quote..."The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played." You specifically said this on the 1st page of this thread.  Please just admit ownage.  You never said "series" b4, and now you are?

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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Ok, maybe I'm slow...Part 3? What does that mean? You specifically said "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Based on that statement, you are COMPLETELY WRONG. It DID release in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_of_mana

"Secret of Mana, known in Japan as Seiken Densetsu 2 (聖剣伝説2, Seiken Densetsu Tsū?, lit. "Legend of the Holy Sword 2"), is the second video game in the Mana series of console role-playing game developed and published by Square Co., Ltd. (now Square Enix Co., Ltd.), the first game of the series on the Super Nintendo Entertainment Systemand the only Mana game released on this platform outside Japan."

So, what were you trying to say again?

AvIdGaMeR444

Seiken Densetsu 3

Seiken Densetsu 3 (聖剣伝説3), often unofficially referred to as Secret of Mana 2,[2][3] was released for the Super Famicom (the Japanese version of the Super NES) on September 30, 1995. It was never officially released outside of Japan, although an English languagefan translation was released by Neill Corlett in 2000. Seiken Densetsu 3 introduced a degree of nonlinearity to the series, allowing players to choose a party of three members, from a total of six characters. A total of three distinct storylines are available.

I've played it. And its easily much better than the US only released Secret of Mana.

Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused.

He's not dodging ownage, you're just stretching for ownage.  What he said makes perfect sense, as Seiken Densetsu, the Japanese name for Secret of Mana, had 2 games released on the SNES.  He quite clearly stated he was talking about the one that wasn't released in the US.  If I said, "The Final Fantasy never realesed in the US for the NES", would you say "OWNAGE!  Final Fantasy 1 and 2 were released in the US!" or would you do as any other person would and realise I was talking about FF3?

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#19 XaosII
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused. AvIdGaMeR444

I really dont see how can it be confusing...

I never said "Secret of Mana was never released to the US." I said "The Secret of Mana never released." I obviously wasnt talking about the first one which is not "The Secret of Mana never released."

EDIT: Oh, ok... i realize where the confusion might be. I wasnt referring to the game "The Secret of Mana" but the series "Secret of Mana." Its "The 'Secret of Mana' that was never released to the US...blah blah."

You said...and I quote..."The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played." You specifically said this on the 1st page of this thread. Please just admit ownage.

Dude, you misunderstood me.

MGS 1 and MGS 2 came out for the PC, Xbox, and the PS2. MGS 3 was only for the PS2.  The equivalent of what i said was:

"The MGS never released to the Xbox was the best one."

I wasnt talking about the first game. I was talking about the entire Secret of Mana series. Is this really so hard to understand? 

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#20 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Ok, maybe I'm slow...Part 3? What does that mean? You specifically said "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Based on that statement, you are COMPLETELY WRONG. It DID release in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_of_mana

"Secret of Mana, known in Japan as Seiken Densetsu 2 (聖剣伝説2, Seiken Densetsu Tsū?, lit. "Legend of the Holy Sword 2"), is the second video game in the Mana series of console role-playing game developed and published by Square Co., Ltd. (now Square Enix Co., Ltd.), the first game of the series on the Super Nintendo Entertainment Systemand the only Mana game released on this platform outside Japan."

So, what were you trying to say again?

jeffwulf

Seiken Densetsu 3

Seiken Densetsu 3 (聖剣伝説3), often unofficially referred to as Secret of Mana 2,[2][3] was released for the Super Famicom (the Japanese version of the Super NES) on September 30, 1995. It was never officially released outside of Japan, although an English languagefan translation was released by Neill Corlett in 2000. Seiken Densetsu 3 introduced a degree of nonlinearity to the series, allowing players to choose a party of three members, from a total of six characters. A total of three distinct storylines are available.

I've played it. And its easily much better than the US only released Secret of Mana.

Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused.

He's not dodging ownage, you're just stretching for ownage.  What he said makes perfect sense, as Seiken Densetsu, the Japanese name for Secret of Mana, had 2 games released on the SNES.  He quite clearly stated he was talking about the one that wasn't released in the US.  If I said, "The Final Fantasy never realesed in the US for the NES", would you say "OWNAGE!  Final Fantasy 1 and 2 were released in the US!" or would you do as any other person would and realise I was talking about FF3?

Well, as I've found out recently, SPECIFICS matter in system wars.   I said I used Xbox Live, then a few weeks later said I never been on Live.  Everyone thought I was a "fakeboy".  Turns out I should've said "I never used Xbox Live AT MY HOME."  See the difference?  I had used it b4 at a friend's house, and I finally connected the other night, and am now able to use it in my home.  But, because I didn't use those 3 words "at my home", I'm considered a huge fakeboy now.  Xaolls specifically said "Secret of Mana never released in US".  How the heck was I supposed to know he meant "series"?  And also, since he is referring to the Japanese games, why not use the Japanese words for those games instead of the American words?  See what I'm saying?

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I would have to agree. Secret of Mana owned :)ultima-flare
I have 2 copies somehwere. ;)

Yes, SoM owns, especially when you plug in the multitap. 

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#22 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused. XaosII

I really dont see how can it be confusing...

I never said "Secret of Mana was never released to the US." I said "The Secret of Mana never released." I obviously wasnt talking about the first one which is not "The Secret of Mana never released."

EDIT: Oh, ok... i realize where the confusion might be. I wasnt referring to the game "The Secret of Mana" but the series "Secret of Mana." Its "The 'Secret of Mana' that was never released to the US...blah blah."

You said...and I quote..."The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played." You specifically said this on the 1st page of this thread. Please just admit ownage.

Dude, you misunderstood me.

MGS 1 and MGS 2 came out for the PC, Xbox, and the PS2. MGS 3 was only for the PS2.  The equivalent of what i said was:

"The MGS never released to the Xbox was the best one."

I wasnt talking about the first game. I was talking about the entire Secret of Mana series. Is this really so hard to understand? 

No, it is not hard to understand.  But you should've said "series".  Instead you said that Secret of Mana never released in the US.  How was I supposed to interpret that? Seriously?  But you know full well what my post was talking about originally right?  I said "Secret of Mana".  Did you REALLY think I meant the series, or Japanese version of the game? No.  US version. 

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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused. XaosII

I really dont see how can it be confusing...

I never said "Secret of Mana was never released to the US." I said "The Secret of Mana never released." I obviously wasnt talking about the first one which is not "The Secret of Mana never released."

EDIT: Oh, ok... i realize where the confusion might be. I wasnt referring to the game "The Secret of Mana" but the series "Secret of Mana." Its "The 'Secret of Mana' that was never released to the US...blah blah."

You said...and I quote..."The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played." You specifically said this on the 1st page of this thread. Please just admit ownage.

Dude, you misunderstood me.

MGS 1 and MGS 2 came out for the PC, Xbox, and the PS2. MGS 3 was only for the PS2. The equivalent of what i said was:

"The MGS never released to the Xbox was the best one."

I wasnt talking about the first game. I was talking about the entire Secret of Mana series. Is this really so hard to understand?

Wow...You are really just trying to dodge out of this

So now?...The best one...Which is an Opinion was never released? Many Consider SD2 the best...Others go with SD3. Not to mention...Since there is no offical release of it. The only way to address it is as SD3...Not Secret of Mana2. That is what it is Unoffically offered

And Why is MGS3 The best? You mean in your opinion?

But then again...This is system wars...Opinion is fact

So your wrong either way you want to spin it...Because. There is only one Offical Secret of Mana^^

So about that Secret of Mana not being released in the US?:oops: Oh you mean SD3...Not Secret of Mana

 

And if Unoffical Names count...Halo is now known as...Jolly Green Giant With A MAchine Gun 

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#24 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused. Acenso

I really dont see how can it be confusing...

I never said "Secret of Mana was never released to the US." I said "The Secret of Mana never released." I obviously wasnt talking about the first one which is not "The Secret of Mana never released."

EDIT: Oh, ok... i realize where the confusion might be. I wasnt referring to the game "The Secret of Mana" but the series "Secret of Mana." Its "The 'Secret of Mana' that was never released to the US...blah blah."

You said...and I quote..."The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played." You specifically said this on the 1st page of this thread. Please just admit ownage.

Dude, you misunderstood me.

MGS 1 and MGS 2 came out for the PC, Xbox, and the PS2. MGS 3 was only for the PS2. The equivalent of what i said was:

"The MGS never released to the Xbox was the best one."

I wasnt talking about the first game. I was talking about the entire Secret of Mana series. Is this really so hard to understand?

Wow...You are really just trying to dodge out of this

So now?...The best one...Which is an Opinion was never released? Many Consider SD2 the best...Others go with SD3. Not to mention...Since there is no offical release of it. The only way to address it is as SD3...Not Secret of Mana2. That is what it is Unoffically offered

And Why is MGS3 The best? You mean in your opinion?

But then again...This is system wars...Opinion is fact

So your wrong either way you want to spin it...Because. There is only one Offical Secret of Mana^^

So about that Secret of Mana not being released in the US?:oops: Oh you mean SD3...Not Secret of Mana

Exactly.  Whether he meant Secret of Mana series or not is beside the point.  In system wars, if you are not specific enough, you can be owned easily.  And that is precisely what happened to Xaolls.  Is it fair?  Probably not.  But that is the way it is.  I learned this the HARD way.  Just accept ownage Xaosll.  It could be worse.  You could be bombarded left and right LIKE I WAS the other night.  Heck, I had to change my sig to defend myself because NO ONE BELIEVED ME and thought I was a big fakeboy.  Just be glad you're not in that type of situation.  

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Exactly. Whether he meant Secret of Mana series or not is beside the point. In system wars, if you are not specific enough, you can be owned easily. And that is precisely what happened to Xaolls. Is it fair? Probably not. But that is the way it is. I learned this the HARD way. Just accept ownage Xaosll. It could be worse. You could be bombarded left and right LIKE I WAS the other night. Heck, I had to change my sig to defend myself because NO ONE BELIEVED ME and thought I was a big fakeboy. Just be glad you're not in that type of situation.

AvIdGaMeR444

...You know your taking this a bit too seriously.

Ownage is serious business in here for systems... Nothing like Moe Moe

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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Exactly. Whether he meant Secret of Mana series or not is beside the point. In system wars, if you are not specific enough, you can be owned easily. And that is precisely what happened to Xaolls. Is it fair? Probably not. But that is the way it is. I learned this the HARD way. Just accept ownage Xaosll. It could be worse. You could be bombarded left and right LIKE I WAS the other night. Heck, I had to change my sig to defend myself because NO ONE BELIEVED ME and thought I was a big fakeboy. Just be glad you're not in that type of situation.

Acenso

...You know your taking this a bit too seriously.

Ownage is serious business in here for systems... Nothing like Moe Moe

Perhaps, but I really got pounded the other night left and right.  And it turns out everyone was wrong about me.  I couldn't defend myself for a day because I got suspended.  Then I became one of the biggest fakeboys EVER in system wars.  And it was all based off untruths about what people thought about my posts.  It was definitely not pleasant.  Yeah, this is just system wars, where illogical ramblings and untruths come about all the time.  So, yeah...I guess I am being too serious. 

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#27 jeffwulf
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[QUOTE="jeffwulf"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Ok, maybe I'm slow...Part 3? What does that mean? You specifically said "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Based on that statement, you are COMPLETELY WRONG. It DID release in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_of_mana

"Secret of Mana, known in Japan as Seiken Densetsu 2 (聖剣伝説2, Seiken Densetsu Tsū?, lit. "Legend of the Holy Sword 2"), is the second video game in the Mana series of console role-playing game developed and published by Square Co., Ltd. (now Square Enix Co., Ltd.), the first game of the series on the Super Nintendo Entertainment Systemand the only Mana game released on this platform outside Japan."

So, what were you trying to say again?

AvIdGaMeR444

Seiken Densetsu 3

Seiken Densetsu 3 (聖剣伝説3), often unofficially referred to as Secret of Mana 2,[2][3] was released for the Super Famicom (the Japanese version of the Super NES) on September 30, 1995. It was never officially released outside of Japan, although an English languagefan translation was released by Neill Corlett in 2000. Seiken Densetsu 3 introduced a degree of nonlinearity to the series, allowing players to choose a party of three members, from a total of six characters. A total of three distinct storylines are available.

I've played it. And its easily much better than the US only released Secret of Mana.

Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused.

He's not dodging ownage, you're just stretching for ownage. What he said makes perfect sense, as Seiken Densetsu, the Japanese name for Secret of Mana, had 2 games released on the SNES. He quite clearly stated he was talking about the one that wasn't released in the US. If I said, "The Final Fantasy never realesed in the US for the NES", would you say "OWNAGE! Final Fantasy 1 and 2 were released in the US!" or would you do as any other person would and realise I was talking about FF3?

Well, as I've found out recently, SPECIFICS matter in system wars. I said I used Xbox Live, then a few weeks later said I never been on Live. Everyone thought I was a "fakeboy". Turns out I should've said "I never used Xbox Live AT MY HOME." See the difference? I had used it b4 at a friend's house, and I finally connected the other night, and am now able to use it in my home. But, because I didn't use those 3 words "at my home", I'm considered a huge fakeboy now. Xaolls specifically said "Secret of Mana never released in US". How the heck was I supposed to know he meant "series"? And also, since he is referring to the Japanese games, why not use the Japanese words for those games instead of the American words? See what I'm saying?

Dude, there is a difference between  "Secret of Mana never released in US" and "the Secret of Mana never released in US".  The first one indicates the specific game, the second one sets up a conditional for one in the series that wasn't released in America.

Please tell me how you would respond to the example I gave.

If I said, "The Final Fantasy never released in the US for the NES", would you say "OWNAGE! Final Fantasy 1 and 2 were released in the US!" or would you do as any other person would and realise I was talking about FF3?

 

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#28 KillJeff
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[QUOTE="Acenso"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused. AvIdGaMeR444

I really dont see how can it be confusing...

I never said "Secret of Mana was never released to the US." I said "The Secret of Mana never released." I obviously wasnt talking about the first one which is not "The Secret of Mana never released."

EDIT: Oh, ok... i realize where the confusion might be. I wasnt referring to the game "The Secret of Mana" but the series "Secret of Mana." Its "The 'Secret of Mana' that was never released to the US...blah blah."

You said...and I quote..."The Secret of Mana never released to the US for the SNES, is probably one of the best RPG's i've played." You specifically said this on the 1st page of this thread. Please just admit ownage.

Dude, you misunderstood me.

MGS 1 and MGS 2 came out for the PC, Xbox, and the PS2. MGS 3 was only for the PS2. The equivalent of what i said was:

"The MGS never released to the Xbox was the best one."

I wasnt talking about the first game. I was talking about the entire Secret of Mana series. Is this really so hard to understand?

Wow...You are really just trying to dodge out of this

So now?...The best one...Which is an Opinion was never released? Many Consider SD2 the best...Others go with SD3. Not to mention...Since there is no offical release of it. The only way to address it is as SD3...Not Secret of Mana2. That is what it is Unoffically offered

And Why is MGS3 The best? You mean in your opinion?

But then again...This is system wars...Opinion is fact

So your wrong either way you want to spin it...Because. There is only one Offical Secret of Mana^^

So about that Secret of Mana not being released in the US?:oops: Oh you mean SD3...Not Secret of Mana

Exactly.  Whether he meant Secret of Mana series or not is beside the point.  In system wars, if you are not specific enough, you can be owned easily.  And that is precisely what happened to Xaolls.  Is it fair?  Probably not.  But that is the way it is.  I learned this the HARD way.  Just accept ownage Xaosll.  It could be worse.  You could be bombarded left and right LIKE I WAS the other night.  Heck, I had to change my sig to defend myself because NO ONE BELIEVED ME and thought I was a big fakeboy.  Just be glad you're not in that type of situation.  

LMAO! This argument is hilarious. :lol:

Anyways, although I do feel that Secret of Mana is awesome but Seiken Densetsu 3 is the best.

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#29 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="jeffwulf"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Ok, maybe I'm slow...Part 3? What does that mean? You specifically said "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Based on that statement, you are COMPLETELY WRONG. It DID release in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_of_mana

"Secret of Mana, known in Japan as Seiken Densetsu 2 (聖剣伝説2, Seiken Densetsu Tsū?, lit. "Legend of the Holy Sword 2"), is the second video game in the Mana series of console role-playing game developed and published by Square Co., Ltd. (now Square Enix Co., Ltd.), the first game of the series on the Super Nintendo Entertainment Systemand the only Mana game released on this platform outside Japan."

So, what were you trying to say again?

jeffwulf

Seiken Densetsu 3

Seiken Densetsu 3 (聖剣伝説3), often unofficially referred to as Secret of Mana 2,[2][3] was released for the Super Famicom (the Japanese version of the Super NES) on September 30, 1995. It was never officially released outside of Japan, although an English languagefan translation was released by Neill Corlett in 2000. Seiken Densetsu 3 introduced a degree of nonlinearity to the series, allowing players to choose a party of three members, from a total of six characters. A total of three distinct storylines are available.

I've played it. And its easily much better than the US only released Secret of Mana.

Ok, now you're attempting to dodge ownage. You originally said, and I quote, "The Secret of Mana never released to the US for SNES". Like I said, that statement is wrong. You should've said Secret of Mana 2 never released to US. But you didn't. That is why I was confused.

He's not dodging ownage, you're just stretching for ownage. What he said makes perfect sense, as Seiken Densetsu, the Japanese name for Secret of Mana, had 2 games released on the SNES. He quite clearly stated he was talking about the one that wasn't released in the US. If I said, "The Final Fantasy never realesed in the US for the NES", would you say "OWNAGE! Final Fantasy 1 and 2 were released in the US!" or would you do as any other person would and realise I was talking about FF3?

Well, as I've found out recently, SPECIFICS matter in system wars. I said I used Xbox Live, then a few weeks later said I never been on Live. Everyone thought I was a "fakeboy". Turns out I should've said "I never used Xbox Live AT MY HOME." See the difference? I had used it b4 at a friend's house, and I finally connected the other night, and am now able to use it in my home. But, because I didn't use those 3 words "at my home", I'm considered a huge fakeboy now. Xaolls specifically said "Secret of Mana never released in US". How the heck was I supposed to know he meant "series"? And also, since he is referring to the Japanese games, why not use the Japanese words for those games instead of the American words? See what I'm saying?

Dude, there is a difference between  "Secret of Mana never released in US" and "the Secret of Mana never released in US".  The first one indicates the specific game, the second one sets up a conditional for one in the series that wasn't released in America.

Please tell me how you would respond to the example I gave.

If I said, "The Final Fantasy never released in the US for the NES", would you say "OWNAGE! Final Fantasy 1 and 2 were released in the US!" or would you do as any other person would and realise I was talking about FF3?

 

Ok, IMO that is really stretching it.  I sorta see what you're saying, but Xaosll should've still said "series" as an indicator.  I mean seriously...how many people would assume he was talking about the series of Secret of Mana just from the word "the"?  Come on now. 

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#30 SSJ4Gareth
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I see what Xallos means... by saying "the" at the beggining, hes talking about "the" secret of mana that wasn't released in the us, he just didn't name it

like this would be the past tense version:

"Remember that secret of mana game that wasnt released in the us?"

It would have made it more clear if he put the word game in, but its still not neccesary
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#31 HuusAsking
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Consdering how many typos boarders here make everyday, you'd be finding attempts at ownage at every turn of the page (which we do). Just let it go. It was an honest slip made by someone who just couldn't call to mind the name "Seiken Densetsu 3" (which for anyone not familiar with Japanese would be a bit hard to recall). I knew which game he was talking about.
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#32 raskullibur
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Seiken Densetsu 3 was also great.