@goldenelementxl:
Agreed, Soundbars (even ignoring atmos) can not match the quality of even a half decent home theater setup. And speakers can look good too there are many very nice looking ones (granted some are pricey, like the Kef r series). Furthermore given how expensive some of these Soundbars are, for price/performance can get a good HT setup for a similar price which will destroy a soundbar.
In terms of dolby atmos, upfiring is hit or miss (my HT has upfiring and it works but obviously ceiling mounted would be better). But on Soundbars, the positioning in most cases simply won't be correct. Ideally (if memory serves right) the upfiring speakers should be placed above ear level but no more than half the height of the ceiling. I am guessing in most soundbar setups, the upfiring speakers are placed below ear level, kind of negating the point of atmos.
Lastly, in terms of soundbar vs HT, so many of these Soundbars come with anemic subwoofer that can't even go down below 40hz or so, such an anemic subwoofer negates the benefits of even having a sub since it can't go low enough.
Will never understand why one would spend 2k or so on a soundbar instead of even a half decent HT setup. One could get JBL Studio 530s (2x$300), a JBL Studio 520c or Emotiva C1+ center ($200), 7.1 receiver from Costco (denon/yamaha/onkyo for $400-$500), cheap upfiring speakers (Pioneer, Sony etc, can be had for as low as $100 per pair) and a decent (infinity sub r12) or good (hsu/monolith/rhytmik/svs) subwoofer for between 200-800. All in all would cost between like 1500-2300 but would be way superior to any soundbar setup.
Also don't understand why one would buy a high quality TV (like a Samsung QN90, LG/Sony OLED, etc) but use the built in speakers (which honestly always sound awful)
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