Sega bankrupt? dying breed?

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#1 greenleaflink
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Is sega still alive...

imagine Sega went from Hardware maker with Genesis, and GameGear now their flagship franchise is getting whalloped in reviews [most recent 4.6 at ign for sonic ps3]

how are they making profits with expensive budgets and developments?

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#2 Nagidar
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SEGA was bankrupt, but was bought by Sammy.
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#3 Boba_Fett_3710
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Is sega still alive...

imagine Sega went from Hardware maker with Genesis, and GameGear now their flagship franchise is getting whalloped in reviews [most recent 4.6 at ign for sonic ps3]

how are they making profits with expensive budgets and developments?

greenleaflink

Just because Sonic is sinking doesn't mean Sega is. Sega still makes great games that are successful like Super Monkey Ball and Condemned to name a few.
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#4 greenleaflink
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SEGA was bankrupt, but was bought by Sammy.Nagidar
why doesnt Microsoft buy them out? Microsoft puts $$ for anything so id assume they buy them and hail it as their Mario.
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#5 Rip870
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Is sega still alive...

imagine Sega went from Hardware maker with Genesis, and GameGear now their flagship franchise is getting whalloped in reviews [most recent 4.6 at ign for sonic ps3]

how are they making profits with expensive budgets and developments?

greenleaflink

Sega makes many billions a year in the arcade market in japan.

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#6 DressYouUp
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Sega is far from Bankrupt these days. Close to it in the mid to late 90's, considering they had about 5 consoles to support...
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#8 Boba_Fett_3710
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I'd wheater buy a Dreamcast, or Saturn off ebay than a wii. iceberg_shorty
Where the hell did that come from???
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#9 DressYouUp
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[QUOTE="iceberg_shorty"]I'd wheater buy a Dreamcast, or Saturn off ebay than a wii. Boba_Fett_3710
Where the hell did that come from???

The Land Of Truth (ie - nowhere near Sonyville)
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#10 NRGCDS
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I'd wheater buy a Dreamcast, or Saturn off ebay than a wii.  iceberg_shorty
Because you are to lazy to try the wii before bashing it. Man Saturn was good but the wii is better. the Dreamcast I didn't get that because it was not backwards competitble with Saturn and I new that Sega would quiet after the Dreamcast fail.
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#11 Wintry_Flutist
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I'd wheater buy a Dreamcast, or Saturn off ebay than a wii.  iceberg_shorty

And that's related to the topic because... 

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#12 mythrol
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[QUOTE="greenleaflink"]

Is sega still alive...

imagine Sega went from Hardware maker with Genesis, and GameGear now their flagship franchise is getting whalloped in reviews [most recent 4.6 at ign for sonic ps3]

how are they making profits with expensive budgets and developments?

Rip870

Sega makes many billions a year in the arcade market in japan.

Are you serious??? Come on now. Billions off of the arcade business? No. Just no.
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]SEGA was bankrupt, but was bought by Sammy.greenleaflink
why doesnt Microsoft buy them out? Microsoft puts $$ for anything so id assume they buy them and hail it as their Mario.

why buy a developer that makes piles and piles of bad games?
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[QUOTE="greenleaflink"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]SEGA was bankrupt, but was bought by Sammy.danneswegman
why doesnt Microsoft buy them out? Microsoft puts $$ for anything so id assume they buy them and hail it as their Mario.

why buy a developer that makes piles and piles of bad games?

SEGA do not make piles and piles of bad games... I can think of a few stellar titles the company has created in the past 10 years: Panzer Dragoon Saga (considered by many to be better than FF7) Burning Rangers Sonic Adventure 1&2 Phantasy Star Online Space Channel 5 Virtua Fighter 4&5 Skies of Arcadia Panzer Dragoon Orta Jet Grind Radio Sonic Rush Shenmue 1&2 Shining Force 3 F-Zero (Gamecube) Virtua Tennis 1&2 Ferrari F40 etc etc etc.... ... and thats not even including its fantastic and innovative arcade range so yeah, you're wrong.
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]SEGA was bankrupt, but was bought by Sammy.greenleaflink
why doesnt Microsoft buy them out? Microsoft puts $$ for anything so id assume they buy them and hail it as their Mario.

Microsoft once wanted to buy Sega, not sure why it didn't happen. It's funny cause later on they could have bought them easily for cheap and I guess decided they didn't want them anymore. I would love for one of the big 3 to buy them and get them back on track. I wonder what would Nintendo do with Sonic. Beside hi own game would they put him in the Mario games or would they give him his own Sonic Kart, Sonic Party, Sonic Sports ect...?
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#16 fanboy999
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Isn't VF5 coming out soon? That's a Sega successful flagship title.
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#17 DressYouUp
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Isn't VF5 coming out soon? That's a Sega successful flagship title.fanboy999
Yeah next month ? They need to do a new daytona IMO. There are still arcade machines EVERYWHERE where I live of the original 1995 game!
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[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="greenleaflink"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]SEGA was bankrupt, but was bought by Sammy.DressYouUp
why doesnt Microsoft buy them out? Microsoft puts $$ for anything so id assume they buy them and hail it as their Mario.

why buy a developer that makes piles and piles of bad games?

SEGA do not make piles and piles of bad games... I can think of a few stellar titles the company has created in the past 10 years: Panzer Dragoon Saga (considered by many to be better than FF7) Burning Rangers Sonic Adventure 1&2 Phantasy Star Online Space Channel 5 Virtua Fighter 4&5 Skies of Arcadia Panzer Dragoon Orta Jet Grind Radio Sonic Rush Shenmue 1&2 Shining Force 3 F-Zero (Gamecube) Virtua Tennis 1&2 Ferrari F40 etc etc etc.... ... and thats not even including its fantastic and innovative arcade range so yeah, you're wrong.

okay, they do have some good games. although i do not agree with everything on your list. But they seem to be spiraling down evr since the genesis imo
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#19 DressYouUp
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[QUOTE="DressYouUp"][QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="greenleaflink"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]SEGA was bankrupt, but was bought by Sammy.danneswegman
why doesnt Microsoft buy them out? Microsoft puts $$ for anything so id assume they buy them and hail it as their Mario.

why buy a developer that makes piles and piles of bad games?

SEGA do not make piles and piles of bad games... I can think of a few stellar titles the company has created in the past 10 years: Panzer Dragoon Saga (considered by many to be better than FF7) Burning Rangers Sonic Adventure 1&2 Phantasy Star Online Space Channel 5 Virtua Fighter 4&5 Skies of Arcadia Panzer Dragoon Orta Jet Grind Radio Sonic Rush Shenmue 1&2 Shining Force 3 F-Zero (Gamecube) Virtua Tennis 1&2 Ferrari F40 etc etc etc.... ... and thats not even including its fantastic and innovative arcade range so yeah, you're wrong.

okay, they do have some good games. although i do not agree with everything on your list. But they seem to be spiraling down evr since the genesis imo

Tbh i think they "peaked" in the late 90's and throughout the Dreamcasts lifespan. Hopefully they pick up the pace this generation, aside from that abomination of a game that was Sonic The Hedgehog (yes, I bought it...) the games thus far on current gen systems and the ones to be released in the next few months have been good quality. What dissapoints me most about Sega is that unlike other companies they rarely continue their franchises except the Virtua/Sonic series. What i wouldnt give for another Wonderboy, Space Harrier, Phantasy Star or Shining Force game!
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TOTAL WAR series.
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#22 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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Is sega still alive...

imagine Sega went from Hardware maker with Genesis, and GameGear now their flagship franchise is getting whalloped in reviews [most recent 4.6 at ign for sonic ps3]

how are they making profits with expensive budgets and developments?

greenleaflink

Where do you get this "expensive budgets and developments" crap from? Lately SEGA games have been 3 hour affairs that they made in 4-6 months and then shoot out the door for full price. They've been riding on name recognition for 7 years now.

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#23 Heydanbud92
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sega... awww man, why? I wish they would be like they used to be. gawd the memories. i wish sega had an epiphony or something... like, hey we should go back to our roots with sonic and stop whoring it out, and start making unique and memorable games like in the DC days...

I can dream can't I?

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It is puzzling to me how sega could have fallen so far. Dont they have their own video game gurus like nintendo's miyamoto? I was never a sega-head so I'm not sure
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#25 Panzer_Zwei
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[QUOTE="greenleaflink"]

Is sega still alive...

imagine Sega went from Hardware maker with Genesis, and GameGear now their flagship franchise is getting whalloped in reviews [most recent 4.6 at ign for sonic ps3]

how are they making profits with expensive budgets and developments?

ZIMdoom

Where do you get this "expensive budgets and developments" crap from? Lately SEGA games have been 3 hour affairs that they made in 4-6 months and then shoot out the door for full price. They've been riding on name recognition for 7 years now.

Such an insightful view.

Actually Ryu Ga Gotoku costed them more than $20 million to produce and the second part was still showing on Japanese top sales charts recently even more than a year after it's release.

Ryu Ga Gotoku: Kenzan and Senjou no Valklyria are examples of high-budget games.

And I also don't believe that games like Empire: Total war cost peanuts to produce, same with their published games like Condemned. Which I honestly ignore if they're paying fully for it's development and therefore own the franchise.

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#26 Heydanbud92
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It is puzzling to me how sega could have fallen so far. Dont they have their own video game gurus like nintendo's miyamoto? I was never a sega-head so I'm not sureGunSmith1_basic

They had the sonic team....

Which meant any game made by them had a much better chance of being a great game, it was like an additional seal of quality when you saw the sonic team logo, even as a little kid I remember acknowledging this.

Of course it means absolutely NOTHING now, and is almost a negative.

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#27 black_awpN1
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SEGA is doing fine. THey just released a Quality game in Condemend 2: Blood shot today.

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#28 reyad-u
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Can we leave this thread to die? it's very old.
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#29 True_Gamer_
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TOTAL WAR series.Meu2k7

Buh buh teh best strategy series in the world dont count!!! :cry:

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#30 t3hTwinky
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I think SEGA is just a publisher now.

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#31 TDLlama
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Hmm... a year-old thread. Well, Sega is making some money thanks to that Olympic game.

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#32 Juggernaut140
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Well just as long as they get Condemned 2 out before they go under.

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#33 boombye
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You guys do know that they have nothing to do with Condemned right? They just publish it as in put their name on the cover and distribute to the stores on behalf of WARNER BROS. and the Developer that it owns named Monolith. Monolith made them, and during their development of the Matrix Online, the head of Monolith took a job at their partners Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment which is now called something else, when he was head of WBIE, they then bought out his old company Monolith that they were making a couple projects with, that being the MXO MMO and Condemned franchise. Warner Bros. owns it, so if there were to ever be a movie, guess who's making it? SEGA has nothing to do with anything other than being a Publisher as with most their games in the last few years, they outsource development to third parties on franchises that they own as well. The arcade industry in Japan has seen it lose a lot of money and many arcades shut down last year as well, and if you goto Gameworks, there's not much in the way of innovation or anything new for that matter. They have had great games like Shenmue which never sold well, but were always great, and it's spiritual successor known Ryu Go Gotaku or Yakuza, which is amazing. People like Capcom have been awesome in trying to revitialize the arcade market by releasing games like Street Fighter IV to arcades before consoles for example. But yeah Monolith made Condenmed, before SEGA ever got in the picture, in fact they were also the publisher for the Matrix Online. Being a publisher doesn't mean these games are their's, it means they sell it for these people who actually do make it. Monolith made games for WB who in turn had Sega sell it in the stores for them. My whole point being that Sega really needs to start making their own games, and needs to start getting their very few gems stateside, in particular Yakuza 3.

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#34 Malta_1980
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Surely SEGA is not the powerhouse it used to be back in the late 80's - mid 90's but they still produce some quality games...

being 29 I always get nostalgic when SEGA is mentioned in these boards cause i still have fond memories of the SEGA Megadrive / Gamegear days and the fun I had playing games onmy Dreamcast... I still believe that SEGA's main cock-up was withthe Saturn cause it really put SEGA in a bad light/positionthat imo influenced the Dreamcast which was a highly underrated console at the time..

But anyway lets just hope SEGA continue to release great titles for us to enjoy/play..

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[QUOTE="Rip870"][QUOTE="greenleaflink"]

Is sega still alive...

imagine Sega went from Hardware maker with Genesis, and GameGear now their flagship franchise is getting whalloped in reviews [most recent 4.6 at ign for sonic ps3]

how are they making profits with expensive budgets and developments?

mythrol

Sega makes many billions a year in the arcade market in japan.

Are you serious??? Come on now. Billions off of the arcade business? No. Just no.

Actually he would be correct. He just didn't say it right. Sega is probably making a billion YEN on arcades in Japan. That totals to what? A couple million USD?

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SEGA are mainly doing publishing now.
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#38 Ace6301
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This poor thread has been revived twice D:
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#39 Thunderdrone
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[QUOTE="pins_basic"] Microsoft once wanted to buy Sega, not sure why it didn't happen.

Not really. Peter Moore revealed that Microsoft actually wanted to try and buy, or merge, with Nintendo by the end of the Gamecube days. They used sega during the Dreamcast days, as an experiment to test waters for their future console. There are actually interviews with old sega employees saying how they where basically MS's trojan horse. Their eyes where always on nintendo though, then the Wii happened and...yeah