Senior Engineer confirms Wii-U is less powerful than Xbox 360

https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill

Another engineer with insider knowlege comes out of the woodshack and confirms the obvious. Will Nintendo fanboys still be in denial about this? $350 console that is less powerful than than the $200 ones that was released back in 2006. And enough about how the controller makes up most of the expense; the controller has been reverse engineered and exposed as a cheap item that is well beneath junk $100 tablets. 

No one knows how powerful the console is still, but there are indications that it is more powerful according to other tech experts.

@shanselman Nintendo are still operating like it's 1990.They should have "done a Sega" and offered Mario/Zelda as PS4/Durango exclusives.

Bob Summerwill (@BobSummerwill) May 17, 2013

https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill

Another engineer with insider knowlege comes out of the woodshack and confirms the obvious. Will Nintendo fanboys still be in denial about this? $350 console that is less powerful than than the $200 ones that was released back in 2006. And enough about how the controller makes up most of the expense; the controller has been reverse engineered and exposed as a cheap item that is well beneath junk $100 tablets. 

runbleduck

This will help you. 

https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/335385936437325825

edit. OK, Giancar has pasted it too. Anyway, hunting is no longer necessary. 

"Senior Engineer for EA Sports" Yes, I am sure he knows what he is talking about.charizard1605

Ugh yeah.. he probably does know what he's talking about...

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]"Senior Engineer for EA Sports" Yes, I am sure he knows what he is talking about.GD1551

Ugh yeah.. he probably does know what he's talking about...

EA is very biased against Nintendo right now, so an engineer working for EA isn't exactly reliable or trustworthy.

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Most tech analysts have it at roughly 2x the power of the PS3/360. I'm sure a senior engineer from EA would be truthful considering all thats happened between Nintendo and EA...:roll:

Most tech analysts have it at roughly 2x the power of the PS3/360. I'm sure a senior engineer from EA would be truthful considering all thats happened between Nintendo and EA...:roll:

Puckhog04

I think EA wants Nintendo to die because it would make thing easier for them.Sushiglutton

Exit the console market, yes. That would mean less competition.

EA, Activision, Rockstar would all benefit from an AAA future where only big budget stuff can survive. The future they are pushing for is oligopoly; retail to be completely dominated by blockbuster games and consoles like Xbox and Sony where mainly 3rd party games sell and 1st party games are secondary to consumers.

It's all about the CoD/Fifa/GTA future. 

Watch runbleduck ignore my last post like the plague.charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Watch runbleduck ignore my last post like the plague.ShoulderOfOrion

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Most tech analysts have it at roughly 2x the power of the PS3/360. I'm sure a senior engineer from EA would be truthful considering all thats happened between Nintendo and EA...:roll:

ShoulderOfOrion

Nintendo should make 3rd party Mario Sports games to f*** with EA's Business

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]I think EA wants Nintendo to die because it would make thing easier for them.SuperFlakeman

Exit the console market, yes. That would mean less competition.

EA, Activision, Rockstar would all benefit from an AAA future where only big budget stuff can survive. The future they are pushing for is oligopoly; retail to be completely dominated by blockbuster games and consoles like Xbox and Sony where mainly 3rd party games sell and 1st party games are secondary to consumers.

It's all about the CoD/Fifa/GTA future. 

You realize if AAA games dominated the industry then it would be harder for them to stand out right and how would nintendo exiting the console market make it "easier" for EA? They don't compete with nintendo's games and they only put cheap sholveware on nintendo's platforms (recently). So how would nintendo leaving be benefical to them from a competition standpoint?

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Most tech analysts have it at roughly 2x the power of the PS3/360. I'm sure a senior engineer from EA would be truthful considering all thats happened between Nintendo and EA...:roll:

Giancar

Development issues affected the graphics of  a lot of the launch  window games.A bunch of tech experts have been talking about that on neogaf and other tech sites. I would wait until 3D Mario or whatever else ninty has to show in about a month.I don't expect the console ot be as powerful as the PS4 anyway.

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Most tech analysts have it at roughly 2x the power of the PS3/360. I'm sure a senior engineer from EA would be truthful considering all thats happened between Nintendo and EA...:roll:

Giancar

I'm not arguing for Wii U's horsepower (because it's irrelevant), but Nintendo doesn't push the hardware technically so we'll never know that way either.

Literally the only chance of that happening is if they have specifically told Retro Studios to rival Battlefield / The Last of Us with realism and detail. Won't happen though due to poor budget vs profit return and Retro is a small studio relative to the big boys.

Not that I care but this is my take on that matter; We will never know with 100% certainty.

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Most tech analysts have it at roughly 2x the power of the PS3/360. I'm sure a senior engineer from EA would be truthful considering all thats happened between Nintendo and EA...:roll:

Giancar

Only time will tell. But, really, no console peaks visually right when it's out. Takes time for developers to learn the ins and outs of the console. One of the  many perks of console gaming; Visuals get better as the console gets older. Not the other way around. I'm on a phone so it's kind of tough to respond quick, just an FYI.

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Watch runbleduck ignore my last post like the plague.charizard1605

[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"] Then why do so many games run worse on Wii U than they do on 360/PS3? SuperFlakeman

I'm not arguing for Wii U's horsepower (because it's irrelevant), but Nintendo doesn't push the hardware technically so we'll never know that way either.

Literally the only chance of that happening is if they have specifically told Retro Studios to rival Battlefield / The Last of Us with realism and detail. Won't happen though due to poor budget vs profit return and Retro is a small studio relative to the big boys.

Not that I care but this is my take on that matter; We will never know with 100% certainty.

The CryEngine 3 stuff from Shadow of the Eternals on Wii U looked incredible. That's the only example I can think of recently.

I don't think he really confirmed anything :P  Just angry twitter ranted. And he's gonna get fired too :P

I don't think he really confirmed anything :P  Just angry twitter ranted. And he's gonna get fired too :P

ActicEdge

He will probably get a promotion.

I don't think he really confirmed anything :P  Just angry twitter ranted. And he's gonna get fired too :P

ActicEdge

What?

 

Development issues affected the graphics of  a lot of the launch  window games

super600

I'm not arguing for Wii U's horsepower (because it's irrelevant), but Nintendo doesn't push the hardware technically so we'll never know that way either.SuperFlakeman

[QUOTE="super600"]

 

Development issues affected the graphics of  a lot of the launch  window games

Giancar

I'm not arguing for Wii U's horsepower (because it's irrelevant), but Nintendo doesn't push the hardware technically so we'll never know that way either.SuperFlakeman

Pikmin was partly developed on the Wii.I have no clue why W101 looks the way it looks.

Pikmin was partly developed on the Wii.I have no clue why W101 looks the way it looks.

super600

Perhaps adjust the percentages of power levels from your previous estimates?

Perhaps a 14.25% power differential? :P

the truth hurts sheep. Wii U is a scam just like the Wii and it is overpriced as fuk.

[QUOTE="super600"]

 

Development issues affected the graphics of  a lot of the launch  window games

Giancar

I'm not arguing for Wii U's horsepower (because it's irrelevant), but Nintendo doesn't push the hardware technically so we'll never know that way either.SuperFlakeman

No. Those games will not feature technically superior graphics compared to TLOU or Halo 4.

X is impressive because of its scale and no loading, but it's no Crysis in terms of landscape detail/foliage. That's what you can expect. Some aspects will be impressive, but overall the games could be made on PS3. 

Artistically they will melt our eyes, but purely technically no.

How can people claim this still? The 360 has 512 MB of RAM and the Wii U has 2 GB (both DDR3). The 360 GPU hs 240 GFLOPS and the Wii U GPU has 352 GFLOPS. (source cnet) Numbers don't lie. People want Nintendo to fail, I get that. But what I don't understand is how people can say things that can be busted with a quick google search. This board is crazy. Specs don't matter when it comes to PC vs Consoles. (optimization) Then they matter again when the PS4 is announced. Shortly after that the only spec that mattered when comparing PS4 to PC is GDDR5 > DDR3. And now they don't matter again when bashing the Wii U vs the 360. Fanboys need to get together and figure this stuff out.GoldenElementXL

The CPU makes people assume it's weaker than those consoles. I think the CPU is slightly stronger in almost every area besides a few areas like the lack of SIMD's.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't think he really confirmed anything :P  Just angry twitter ranted. And he's gonna get fired too :P

super600

What?

Twitter is not the place to openly bash a company if you aren't the CEO. Since he's so far up he may not get fired to think of it but he'll get in some shit for it.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't think he really confirmed anything :P  Just angry twitter ranted. And he's gonna get fired too :P

ActicEdge

What?

Twitter is not the place to openly bash a company if you aren't the CEO. Since he's so far up he may not get fired to think of it but he'll get in some shit for it.

Wow!I was reading the gaf thread about this and he actually deserves to punished for those twitter comments. 

I think the industry has become more immature than actually mature.

Gametrailers is doing a NeoGAF documentary. Journalism is basically copy/paste from that forum.

High ups of companies talk in interviews or social media as if they are typical forum posters.

This whole awareness thing and internet era is annoying. I liked it more when we were constantly in the dark. Ye we kinda know what they are thinking, saying and doing internally, but openly admit things amd show awareness is out of control. Nobody cares anymore, nobody takes it seriously.

Time to find a new home for Mario and his friends.

I don't believe liars.

Nothing we dont actually know. The Pii U is a weak POFS!!!Kaszilla

So you are going ot beleive an EA employee who has barely developed any games for it or knows anything about the tech in the console.:lol:

ffs why does this keep coming up? Its a little more powerful just look at the specs.. the tech is more modern but under spec'd. Games won't look better and the won't look worse.. just leave it at that!

Seems like the guy is butthurt. The reason they won't make games on it is because only "Mario and Zelda" make money. He made some stupid bitter comments. It's just a matter of time before he will make an apology.

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]Nothing we dont actually know. The Pii U is a weak POFS!!!super600

So you are going ot beleive an EA employee who has barely developed any games for it or knows anything about the tech in the console.:lol:

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Kaszilla"]Nothing we dont actually know. The Pii U is a weak POFS!!!Kaszilla

So you are going ot beleive an EA employee who has barely developed any games for it or knows anything about the tech in the console.:lol:

As a cow, I would be ashamed to be associated with the likes of you, nathandrake, and a few others. Everything that comes out of your guy's mouth is pure fanboy stupidity never with any facts to back it up. Always just utter nonesense. Gaming is just depressing nowadays seeing what it does to people.