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#1 Nin360
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I know you guys haven't had an exclusive to cheer about in a while, but don't get owned again. It looks good but not great. Tons of 360 games look better so I'm not impressed. I predict 8-8.5 here on gamespot. Don't even compare this with the likes of Mario Galaxy because I don't want to read all of the damage control when Galaxy owns it.

I've just read alot of threads putting this game through the atmosphere so lets try to keep some perspective here on system wars. Just think Lair and bring your hype back down to earth.

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#2 Stumpt25
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Its hyped on these forums AA.... which is what you predict as well....

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#4 fenwickhotmail
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what is it hyped
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#5 r_h_i_e
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Ratchet and Clank is a proven AAA franchise, Lair isn't.
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#6 Shaqneel
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Well the difference between R &C and Lair, is that R&C is a proven franchise, which has for the most part always gotten either high AA or AAA. It's hyped AA, so there is a fairly good chance it will live up to it's hype, and even a good possiblity given the work they did on it, for AAA imo.
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#7 ParasiteDemon
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Ratchet and Clank is a proven franchise. You fail
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#8 Runningflame570
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Heres a question...did Sunshine own Ratchet & Clank last gen? No, then sit yourself down.
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#9 PayDaMurdaMan
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Lair was a new unproven IP and R&C is not. R&C games have all been really fun so your logic is flawed. I could understand if the hype was AAA or AAAA but it's not. I fully expect this game to get 8.5 here.
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#10 donnygorgas
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I remember Lair.... we never got to play a demo. Fortunetly we got a R&C FTOD Demo and it's great.
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insoniac>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>factor 5

ng>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>factor 5

action adventure>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dragon game

YOU FAIL

also for you and your friendss....

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#13 manny280
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Heres a question...did Sunshine own Ratchet & Clank last gen? No, then sit yourself down.Runningflame570

logic FTW

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#14 imapieceofwood
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it doesnt really matter if ratchet has pretty graphics like lair because ratchet is going to have good gameplay with solid controls just like every other ratchet game in the past .
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#16 Nin360
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Its hyped on these forums AA.... which is what you predict as well....

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Stumpt25

No, Alot are saying AAA even some saying "best game on any console"

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#17 Always-Honest
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what does Lair have to do with R&C?.. i'll tell you: NOTHING...

Lair's previews all had issues about controls and gameplay.

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#18 Nin360
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Heres a question...did Sunshine own Ratchet & Clank last gen? No, then sit yourself down.Runningflame570

Sunshine was not produced or directed by game god Miyamoto, or alot of the Nintendo specialist. Should I name the 2 dozen mario games that are excellent or #1 on the all time charts? I don't think so.

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#19 Nin360
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What does lair have in common? It was hyped AAA and a system seller. Guess what the other is hyped as?
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#20 Max_Settings
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R & C will be fun for the kids that own a PS3
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#21 DaysAirlines
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[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]

Its hyped on these forums AA.... which is what you predict as well....

/thread

Nin360

No, Alot are saying AAA even some saying "best game on any console"

Lately cows have been pretty timid and conservative in those hype threads.
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#22 Always-Honest
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What does lair have in common? It was hyped AAA and a system seller. Guess what the other is hyped as?Nin360

in lair's case thatw as stupid. it's clear that R&C is a solid game. not saying it will be AAA or a system seller, but not a failure like Lair. it's clear from all hands on reports.

I hgave all three consoles, but still.. this is a stupid thread. try to keep it real , even in system wars

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#23 dracolich666
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You mean lair AND heavenly sword.
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#24 DaysAirlines
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You mean lair AND heavenly sword.dracolich666
and Motorstorm.
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#25 manny280
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[QUOTE="dracolich666"]You mean lair AND heavenly sword.DaysAirlines
and Motorstorm.

and resistance fom

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#26 dracolich666
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[QUOTE="dracolich666"]You mean lair AND heavenly sword.DaysAirlines
and Motorstorm.

Yeahiwasdisapointedwiththatgame.Thoihatesegarallytoo,dirtistheonlygoodrallygameout rightnow.

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#27 ImError88
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[QUOTE="dracolich666"]You mean lair AND heavenly sword.DaysAirlines
and Motorstorm.

AND Resistance

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#28 deactivated-59603ff9b9423
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R & C will be fun for the kids that own a PS3Max_Settings

In case you didn't know, adults play Rachet and Clank also. :roll:

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#29 DaysAirlines
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[QUOTE="Max_Settings"]R & C will be fun for the kids that own a PS3PS3Compass

In case you didn't know, adults play Rachet and Clank also. :roll:

With the children they kidnap.
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#30 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="dracolich666"]You mean lair AND heavenly sword.DaysAirlines
and Motorstorm.

both Heavenly Sword an Motorstorm are great. it's a shame to miss out on those games, but then again: fanboys miss out by default.

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#31 DaysAirlines
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="dracolich666"]You mean lair AND heavenly sword.Always-Honest

and Motorstorm.

both Heavenly Sword an Motorstorm are great. it's a shame to miss out on those games, but then again: fanboys miss out by default.

I own Motorstorm, haven't bought Heavenly sword yet. But yeah, I don't want to spend 60 bucks for a 5 hour game.
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#32 niall077
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R&C is fun... remember that. FUN.like before achivments came and screwed everything up
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#33 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="dracolich666"]You mean lair AND heavenly sword.DaysAirlines

and Motorstorm.

both Heavenly Sword an Motorstorm are great. it's a shame to miss out on those games, but then again: fanboys miss out by default.

I own Motorstorm, haven't bought Heavenly sword yet. But yeah, I don't want to spend 60 bucks for a 5 hour game.

i have to agree that it's a lot of money for a 6 to 7 hour game (not 5).

But it really is a great experience. You should rent it at least. adn finish it. the final battle is truelly great.

I was very sceptic about HS, but i'm VERY glad i played it.

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#34 Always-Honest
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R&C is fun... remember that. FUN.like before achivments came and screwed everything upniall077

i don't hunt achievements myself, couldn't care less. but i do know they give a lot of people a lot of fun. I did it in 1 game: Crackdown. and it's a blast in that game.

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#35 Runningflame570
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Sunshine was not produced or directed by game god Miyamoto, or alot of the Nintendo specialist. Should I name the 2 dozen mario games that are excellent or #1 on the all time charts? I don't think so.

Nin360

Doesn't matter, it does to some degree but R& C is an excellent IP and Mario hasn't been untouchable for quite some time. Super Mario 64 only had 34 reviews as well which definitely helped it out. Mario is not unbeatable and I would argue that Crash Bandicoot was in many ways better than Mario 64 (the later games at least).

What does lair have in common? It was hyped AAA and a system seller. Guess what the other is hyped as?Nin360

Historical revisionism FTL. Lair was hyped AA and as a showcase for the system hardware.

You mean lair AND heavenly sword.dracolich666

Heavenly Sword met its hype plain and simple, quit with the revisionism people.

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#36 NAPK1NS
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I played it, It's awesome. :|
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#37 Chaos_HL21
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Ratchet and Clank is a proven AAA franchise, Lair isn't.r_h_i_e

Well 4 out of the 5 R&Cs got a AA, so it would be a AA franchise (which is what it is hyped). While I am not a fan of R&C, so I may not pickit upfor my PS3,it does look very fun.

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#38 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="Nin360"]

I know you guys haven't had an exclusive to cheer about in a while, but don't get owned again. It looks good but not great. Tons of 360 games look better so I'm not impressed. I predict 8-8.5 here on gamespot. Don't even compare this with the likes of Mario Galaxy because I don't want to read all of the damage control when Galaxy owns it.

I've just read alot of threads putting this game through the atmosphere so lets try to keep some perspective here on system wars. Just think Lair and bring your hype back down to earth.

PS3Compass

You fool, Rachet and Clank is an established AA-AAA franchise, made by brilliant developers that have flawless recent record.

Also the demo is already out on the PS Store, and nearly everyone that played it loved it.

It's funny how Mario STOLE the small world gameplay from R&C!So by defalt R&C wins!
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#39 Watch_Me_Xplode
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Lair? What a horrible comparison. Lair isn't a sequel to PS2's most highly praised original series, nor did it come from a dev (Insomniac) whose resume includes ONLY AA and AAA games.
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#40 skyform
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Insomniac and Naughty Dog are not FlopFactor 5 so R&C and Uncharted deserve their hype.
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#41 BuryMe
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I agree that it looks like an AA ra ther than an AAA game. But seriously, don't expect this to be another lair.
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#42 MoldOnHold
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Lair is a new IP.

R&C is a proven franchise. AAA level.
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#43 i-lick-monkeys
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dude...[play the demo read the previews

everyone is loving it

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#44 Big_Boss465
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Did Ratchet seriously get referenced to Lair? That is possibly one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Ratchet and Clank is a proven series, and Insomniac is a great developer...this game won't flop, sorry. It willget at least a AA score,I don't have any doubts and even if doesn't I'll be picking it up because the demo was a lot of fun. Sucks that you single system owners miss out on so many wonderful games.
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#45 joker730
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wow dude just play the demo and then youll STFU

hey Big_Boss465 i must say that your sig with uncharted is freaken BEAUTIFUL!

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#46 Zerostatic0
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A couple of points

- Many PS3 owners have actually played the game so I'm sure they have some idea of how good the game is.

- This stuff about it being only AA hyped is crap, PS3 owners in the last week or so have been talking and hyping this game on AAA level. If anything I'd say the hype is 8.5-9.0. There is no way you can tell me that if this game gets an 8.0, it lived up to the hype of PS3 owners on Gamespot.

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#47 alilol
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ps3 + wii RULES

R&C and mario galaxy and supersmash

xbox360 GO TO HELL !

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#48 biggamerhk
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ok first of all Lair has nothing to do with ratchet--it is completely different in every single way. the thing that brougt lair down was its gameplay, and FYI, ratchet always delivers in terms of gameplay. i see your point, but comparing it to lair is pathetic.
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#49 Heil68
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The demo is great and it will meet the hype, dont be mad that you cant play it because you cant afford a PS3.
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#50 VendettaRed07
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Ratchet and Clank is a proven AAA franchise, Lair isn't.r_h_i_e
no rachet game has gotten a AAA here on gs