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#1 wiiwillwiiwill
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http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/854/854373p1.html

Though Fable 2 won't show sex, it is a critical part of the game. As many an IGN editor can tell you, unprotected sex leads to children. And once you start having kids, you've got yourself a family. It's this family that creates emotional ties to the world of Albion. It's that family Molyneux plans to use to make you care about Fable 2 more deeply than you may have ever cared for anything in a game before.

When you marry someone else (and yes, same sex marriage is allowed), you become part of that community. You may get a dowry, have a father-in-law in town. Wherever you may have hailed from and wherever you may travel to next, you are embraced by your new home. You may have a child who adores you, who wants to emulate you. Become evil and your child will turn into a bully. Be good and he'll be a choir boy. Either way, he or she looks up to you. You're their hero. Once you're hooked, once you care, the you and your family are in for a bumpy ride

Molyneux has hints heavily at a family tragedy. "There will be a moment six hours into game where you walk into room and someone will ask you to do something and you will have to sacrifice something precious to you as a gamer. You will put down the controller and ask, what am I going to do?"

According to Molyneux, only about 10% of people who played the original Fable finished the game as an evil character. ""Only 5% of people playing Fable 2 will have the stomach to be evil," he guesses. But he also believes it's the job of Lionhead to force more people to tap into their dark side.

"I'm going to make it tough for you to be good," he says. "Being good is about sacrifice... that's going to test you."

For those who scoff at the idea that they could care about their child, consider the experience of playing as a female character. In the current build of the game (which may be forced to change due to "legal reasons"), when you become pregnant your body morphs. Your stomach swells (as do other areas). You carry the weight of a child while adventuring.

Your family, your town and Albion as a whole will react and change based on your choices during your adventure. Molyneux famously promised that in Fable 1 you could plant an acorn and return one day to find a tree had grown. That was a promise unfulfilled. But Molyneux now says they have a "golden acorn" and swears that the world is truly dynamic this time around. Early on in the game you are asked to do something that changes the structure of the capital in one of the cities. When you come back, years later, the small event has lead to a "major change."

One element that will help you on your way to changing Albion is the new HUD-free system. As we've explained in the past, your dog is points you towards enemies and other important items. However, there is another element. A breadcrumb trail exists, which points out the path you should take to find quests. It is color-coded and dynamically changes based on the interests you show as a gamer. It looks pretty cheesy. Just imagine a line of fairy dust sparkling from your feet, along a path and into the horizon. You dog's job, apparently, is to lead you off the breadcrumb trail.

"Mini-maps are [bleep]," according to Molyneux.

If the thought of a breadcrumb trail breaks your heart, know that there are plenty of good things promised in Fable 2. Albion is expected to be 10 times the size from the original game with 11 fully free-roaming regions and roughly 30 dungeons to explore. There are around 100 augmentable weapons, 70 augmentable clothes, and 20 different tattoos and haircuts. There are only eight basic spell times, but they are upgradeable to varying degrees, allowing for around 80 spells. Expect to hear more than 160,000 lines of "AI-driven dialogue" while adventuring through more than 150 unique quests and playing more than a half-dozen minigames. There's also a full economic simulation, as we've documented previously, and a dynamic community to boot.

Fable 2 is going to be big. Certainly bigger than the original. And, if Molyneux has his way, "It's going to be as good as any game out there."

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#2 Relys
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I'm going to make a female only world! :D
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The SEXBOX RETURNS!
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i hope he delivers....it all sounds good in paper....but i hope its implented well in the game itself
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OMG haters just got smacked in the face GOTY am confirmed
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#6 II_Seraphim_II
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*waits for media to blow this topic out of proportion*

anyways, Fable 2 and Gears 2 are on top of my X360 to get list :D

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Lesbian sex FTW!!!
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OMG haters just got smacked in the face GOTY am confirmedJiveT

I doubt Molyneux. It will be implemented into the game but not as well as he is saying.
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And once you start having kids, you've got yourself a family. It's this family that creates emotional ties to the world of Albion. It's that family Molyneux plans to use to make you care about Fable 2 more deeply than you may have ever cared for anything in a game before.

Right, this is how it's going to go: You get someone pregnant, they have kids, you run off five seconds later without really even caring; exactly how it was in Fable.

When you marry someone else (and yes, same sex marriage is allowed), you become part of that community. You may get a dowry, have a father-in-law in town. Wherever you may have hailed from and wherever you may travel to next, you are embraced by your new home. You may have a child who adores you, who wants to emulate you. Become evil and your child will turn into a bully. Be good and he'll be a choir boy. Either way, he or she looks up to you. You're their hero. Once you're hooked, once you care, the you and your family are in for a bumpy ride

These features will probably be removed.

Molyneux has hints heavily at a family tragedy. "There will be a moment six hours into game where you walk into room and someone will ask you to do something and you will have to sacrifice something precious to you as a gamer.

What? Money?

You will put down the controller and ask, what am I going to do?"

Pick something.

According to Molyneux, only about 10% of people who played the original Fable finished the game as an evil character.

Because no one wants to play as a bald goon who can't do anything without listening to people constantly scream and run away. Not to mention it's hard to stay evil when almost everything you kill makes you good.

""Only 5% of people playing Fable 2 will have the stomach to be evil," he guesses.

It's a game, no one cares that much.

"I'm going to make it tough for you to be good," he says. "Being good is about sacrifice...

Sacrificing what? Characters I don't really care about?

For those who scoff at the idea that they could care about their child

It'll probably have an annoying voice and harrass me. I'll end up killing it or ignoring it.

consider the experience of playing as a female character. In the current build of the game (which may be forced to change due to "legal reasons"), when you become pregnant your body morphs. Your stomach swells (as do other areas). You carry the weight of a child while adventuring.

Does this mean you can have an accidental abortion if someone punches you?

Your family, your town and Albion as a whole will react and change based on your choices during your adventure.

The reactions will be so generic, cliche, and black & white that this isn't even interesting.



If the thought of a breadcrumb trail breaks your heart, know that there are plenty of good things promised in Fable 2.

Promises don't mean anything coming from Lionhead.

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Oh...it sounds amazing on paper. Lots of change, lots of character development means lots of time spent playing. Hopefully they can realize their goals. Hopefully "legal issues" dont make them skimp. If a woman is pregnant, she should look it. Sex, they shouldnt show.
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I want to hear about combat. The Combat and Targeting in Fable 1 were beyond frustrating.
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doubters are going to be Pwnt.

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Lemming if this game flops. I will probably go down worse than lair. The hype is borderline atrocious for this game and so far it looks good, but looking good and being good is far from the same thing. *Uses lair once again*
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[QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"]

And once you start having kids, you've got yourself a family. It's this family that creates emotional ties to the world of Albion. It's that family Molyneux plans to use to make you care about Fable 2 more deeply than you may have ever cared for anything in a game before.

Right, this is how it's going to go: You get someone pregnant, they have kids, you run off five seconds later without really even caring; exactly how it was in Fable.

When you marry someone else (and yes, same sex marriage is allowed), you become part of that community. You may get a dowry, have a father-in-law in town. Wherever you may have hailed from and wherever you may travel to next, you are embraced by your new home. You may have a child who adores you, who wants to emulate you. Become evil and your child will turn into a bully. Be good and he'll be a choir boy. Either way, he or she looks up to you. You're their hero. Once you're hooked, once you care, the you and your family are in for a bumpy ride

These features will probably be removed.

Molyneux has hints heavily at a family tragedy. "There will be a moment six hours into game where you walk into room and someone will ask you to do something and you will have to sacrifice something precious to you as a gamer.

What? Money?

You will put down the controller and ask, what am I going to do?"

Pick something.

According to Molyneux, only about 10% of people who played the original Fable finished the game as an evil character.

Because no one wants to play as a bald goon who can't do anything without listening to people constantly scream and run away. Not to mention it's hard to stay evil when almost everything you kill makes you good.

""Only 5% of people playing Fable 2 will have the stomach to be evil," he guesses.

It's a game, no one cares that much.

"I'm going to make it tough for you to be good," he says. "Being good is about sacrifice...

Sacrificing what? Characters I don't really care about?

For those who scoff at the idea that they could care about their child

It'll probably have an annoying voice and harrass me. I'll end up killing it or ignoring it.

consider the experience of playing as a female character. In the current build of the game (which may be forced to change due to "legal reasons"), when you become pregnant your body morphs. Your stomach swells (as do other areas). You carry the weight of a child while adventuring.

Does this mean you can have an accidental abortion if someone punches you?

Your family, your town and Albion as a whole will react and change based on your choices during your adventure.

The reactions will be so generic, cliche, and black & white that this isn't even interesting.



If the thought of a breadcrumb trail breaks your heart, know that there are plenty of good things promised in Fable 2.

Promises don't mean anything coming from Lionhead.

_Margulis_

Oh you gave such a fantastic counter arguement. Bravo!

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[QUOTE="_Margulis_"][QUOTE="wiiwillwiiwill"]

And once you start having kids, you've got yourself a family. It's this family that creates emotional ties to the world of Albion. It's that family Molyneux plans to use to make you care about Fable 2 more deeply than you may have ever cared for anything in a game before.

Right, this is how it's going to go: You get someone pregnant, they have kids, you run off five seconds later without really even caring; exactly how it was in Fable.

When you marry someone else (and yes, same sex marriage is allowed), you become part of that community. You may get a dowry, have a father-in-law in town. Wherever you may have hailed from and wherever you may travel to next, you are embraced by your new home. You may have a child who adores you, who wants to emulate you. Become evil and your child will turn into a bully. Be good and he'll be a choir boy. Either way, he or she looks up to you. You're their hero. Once you're hooked, once you care, the you and your family are in for a bumpy ride

These features will probably be removed.

Molyneux has hints heavily at a family tragedy. "There will be a moment six hours into game where you walk into room and someone will ask you to do something and you will have to sacrifice something precious to you as a gamer.

What? Money?

You will put down the controller and ask, what am I going to do?"

Pick something.

According to Molyneux, only about 10% of people who played the original Fable finished the game as an evil character.

Because no one wants to play as a bald goon who can't do anything without listening to people constantly scream and run away. Not to mention it's hard to stay evil when almost everything you kill makes you good.

""Only 5% of people playing Fable 2 will have the stomach to be evil," he guesses.

It's a game, no one cares that much.

"I'm going to make it tough for you to be good," he says. "Being good is about sacrifice...

Sacrificing what? Characters I don't really care about?

For those who scoff at the idea that they could care about their child

It'll probably have an annoying voice and harrass me. I'll end up killing it or ignoring it.

consider the experience of playing as a female character. In the current build of the game (which may be forced to change due to "legal reasons"), when you become pregnant your body morphs. Your stomach swells (as do other areas). You carry the weight of a child while adventuring.

Does this mean you can have an accidental abortion if someone punches you?

Your family, your town and Albion as a whole will react and change based on your choices during your adventure.

The reactions will be so generic, cliche, and black & white that this isn't even interesting.



If the thought of a breadcrumb trail breaks your heart, know that there are plenty of good things promised in Fable 2.

Promises don't mean anything coming from Lionhead.

Juggernaut140

Oh you gave such a fantastic counter arguement. Bravo!

He's right though. Lionhead has a real big problem with delivering what they promise. Fable didnt deliver, Black and White didnt deliver and I have little faith in Fable 2 delivering.

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He's right though. Lionhead has a real big problem with delivering what they promise. Fable didnt deliver, Black and White didnt deliver and I have little faith in Fable 2 delivering.

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Well the thing is most things that are being said have been shown to the public thus far making it unlikely to be cut. Now as for him hyping the features up I can agree on. You cant really listen to him talk about the features to much or you will be sucked into it. This really can happen to any game, you hear a feature and then your mind goes wild but once you play it then its not as amazing as it sounded due to limitations.

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I almost thought I was reading about the Sims :?
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i hope it's really filthy and in your face real.
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#19 EntwineX
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Sounds good, like in Kotor where you turned evil it was kinda hard to kill some of your friends, tho with them you had tons of dialogue and scripted events before those events. I have a hard time believing that I could actually care for a non-scripted NPCs, which is what I imagined they would be like. I can't even remember a single character from the 1st Fable, it just wasn't the game's strong point.
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ooo, it's all black&white again.

Molyneux: You can do X, Y, and even Z!

Gamer: *tries X, Y and Z once* Alright, that was fun if I hadn't seen it a hundred times in the previews already. Now, what else is there in this game?

Molyneux: Nothing! Surprise!

Gamer: ...

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When did Lionhead last live up to their own hype machine?

Certainly wasent after Black and White 1...

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I don't trust them, they promise the world and fail to delivery even a fraction, they deliver about a fraction of a small third world country with starving children.
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OMG haters just got smacked in the face GOTY am confirmedJiveT

Barely anything that Molyneux says can be confirmed. He's notorious for hyping features that aren't actually implemented into his games.

Back on topic, these are hardly new features in RPGs. Fallout 2 had marriage (even between two males/females), and you could sell your spouse into slavery if you so desired; and The Witcher already covered the whole 'child-rearing' thing (well...almost).

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I can't imagine pregnant adventurers getting past censors. I think the "You and your unborn child have just been mercilessly killed!" facet to the adventuring might not go down well.
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I can't imagine pregnant adventurers getting past censors. I think the "You and your unborn child have just been mercilessly killed!" facet to the adventuring might not go down well.SpigleyMcCheese

Good point.
Child-killing is usually toned down (some/all versions of Fallout didn't have an exploding-child animation) or totally avoided (Oblivion) in RPGs - Fable 2 will almost certainly hit some media flak if they make that an option.

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Only 5% will be evil? For some reason I don't believe that.
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after what happend to mass effect....*waits for news on fox*
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Wow haters are rediculous. I will be the first one to make a thread when this game lives up to the hype.
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Wow haters are rediculous. I will be the first one to make a thread when this game lives up to the hype.TMontana1004
So I guess people being cynical about Killzone 2 are wrong?

Both games didnt live up to their enormus hype(s), so its no surprise people are going to their sequals....

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The SEXBOX RETURNS!Kahuna_1

It never left

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[QUOTE="TMontana1004"]Wow haters are rediculous. I will be the first one to make a thread when this game lives up to the hype.skrat_01

So I guess people being cynical about Killzone 2 are wrong?

Both games didnt live up to their enormus hype(s), so its no surprise people are going to their sequals....

Fable is a crtically acclaimed game thats sold million,if only molyneux kept his mouth closed,people wouldnr=t be marking it down

Killzone however sucked all round,i actually enjoyed the first few levels,but after that.....it sucked

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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]The SEXBOX RETURNS!ukillwegrill

It never left

SEXBOX 690

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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]The SEXBOX RETURNS!ukillwegrill

It never left

God Of War says hello. :|

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Lemming if this game flops. I will probably go down worse than lair. The hype is borderline atrocious for this game and so far it looks good, but looking good and being good is far from the same thing. *Uses lair once again*najentus
Lair was the biggest flop ever, this game cant flop as hard as lair, please dont compare this game to that disaster.
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I also dont get this, when it comes to violent its welcomed but when it comes to nudity and sex, we cant expose our children to it because its sex.... they teach that in sex ed for god sakes.

Parent: Hey hunny heres THIS M RATED GAME WITH STRONG VIOLENCE AND GORE

Kid: Thanks mom your the best, im going to kill timmy with this axe now

Parent: thats my boy

About sex

Parent: Hmm this game has some nudity, better not buy it, its BADfor the kids.

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#36 Can-o-Mark
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Only 5% will be evil? For some reason I don't believe that.ImaPirate0202


If you believe his reasons why only 10% of all players were evil in Fable, then he would probably be right. But since the true reason behind the low amount of evil players (like someone else stated) was because it was just too annoying to be evil. Since every enemy you killed in the game (apart from some story characters) caused you to get "good points". Whereas only tormenting villagers caused you to get evil points. This however also caused you to become a social reject in the game, thus making the game even more anoying.
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[QUOTE="najentus"]Lemming if this game flops. I will probably go down worse than lair. The hype is borderline atrocious for this game and so far it looks good, but looking good and being good is far from the same thing. *Uses lair once again*Imgangsterdawg
Lair was the biggest flop ever, this game cant flop as hard as lair, please dont compare this game to that disaster.

That's why I'm comparing it. Because lair was a disaster even though it looked REALLY REALLY good.

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I want to hear about combat. The Combat and Targeting in Fable 1 were beyond frustrating.Tylendal

Huh? It was flawless, intuitive and easy..... maybe ur just not the gamer you think you are.

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I also dont get this, when it comes to violent its welcomed but when it comes to nudity and sex, we cant expose our children to it because its sex.... they teach that in sex ed for god sakes.

Parent: Hey hunny heres THIS M RATED GAME WITH STRONG VIOLENCE AND GORE

Kid: Thanks mom your the best, im going to kill timmy with this axe now

Parent: thats my boy

About sex

Parent: Hmm this game has some nudity, better not buy it, its BADfor the kids.

Imgangsterdawg

Indeed, reminds me of the woman who wanted to sue Rockstar because she bought GTA:SA for her 14 year old (grand?) daughter. The reason why she wanted to sue Rockstar was not because of the excessive violence, but because of the Hot Coffee mod.

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#40 Imgangsterdawg
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[QUOTE="Imgangsterdawg"]

I also dont get this, when it comes to violent its welcomed but when it comes to nudity and sex, we cant expose our children to it because its sex.... they teach that in sex ed for god sakes.

Parent: Hey hunny heres THIS M RATED GAME WITH STRONG VIOLENCE AND GORE

Kid: Thanks mom your the best, im going to kill timmy with this axe now

Parent: thats my boy

About sex

Parent: Hmm this game has some nudity, better not buy it, its BADfor the kids.

Can-o-Mark

Indeed, reminds me of the woman who wanted to sue Rockstar because she bought GTA:SA for her 14 year old (grand?) daughter. The reason why she wanted to sue Rockstar was not because of the excessive violence, but because of the Hot Coffee mod.

What else is funny is that the grand daughter is only 14 years old playing a rated m game. How the hell did she discover the Hot coffee mod anyways?
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#41 toxicmog
Member since 2006 • 6355 Posts
Americans are scared of sex, Yey for Brittish developers :D
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#42 chutup
Member since 2005 • 7656 Posts

There is no way that anyone is going to care about their families. Since you can marry a large range of people, maybe even everyone in the game, the entire relationship is going to be randomly generated. That will never seem believable, let alone make the players truly care about them.

All games with good character development, like FF or MGS, are always completely scripted. The more you leave up to chance, the less engaged the player will be.

In summary, Molyneux is talking out of his ass like usual.

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#43 Andrew_Xavier
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OMG haters just got smacked in the face GOTY am confirmedJiveT

How so? Molyneux makes crazy promises before ever game he releases, none of which are ever true, anything he says, I'd expect the opposite, keep in mind he claimed dating/marriage would be a huge part of fable 1...and it wasn't...it was lame. Now, people defend him by claiming "didn't have the technology", but it's the same deal, he promised it a couple months before release, he knew what was capable, he's the best promoter of B.S of all time.

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"I'm going to make it tough for you to be good," he says. "Being good is about sacrifice...

Sacrificing what? Characters I don't really care about?_Margulis_

I'm gonna be good until this sacrifice comes about.

Then I'm gonna set fire to my village. :shock: