shadow of mordor vs 1886?

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#1 youngmurk911
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Which do u feel is bettter?

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#2 stereointegrity
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mordor to me didnt feel like a goty....the story to me was blah...the middle was blah....the ending was blah.....dont know about the order tho cause i havent touched it

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#3 Bigboi500
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I'd rather be tossed back to 1886 in a time machine than play 1886.

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#4 ProtossX
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ones a game

the other is a movie

which one do u think i wanna pick to play OP?

ill take the game 99.9999999999% of the time

im done with game movies i was done with those back in the 90's on pc

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#5 R3FURBISHED
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Shadow of Mordor is better

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#6  Edited By Ross_the_Boss6
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The ****? Shadow of Mordor destroys that shitty movie.

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#7 verbalfilth
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more bang for your buck with Shadow of Mordor.

Pick up 1886 when its dirt cheap..assuming you'll still have the itch to play it at that point.

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#8 Blabadon
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The Order 1886, because it's not mindlessly boring like Shadow of Mordor can be and it's more fun to play.

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#9  Edited By Vaasman
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Gamespot Game of the Year vs Dreck.

Hmm, tough call.

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#10 indzman
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@Bigboi500 said:

I'd rather be tossed back to 1886 in a time machine than play 1886.

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#11  Edited By lostrib
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why compare those two games?

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#12 Catalli  Moderator
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One of them has gameplay.

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#13 Lulu_Lulu
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Apples and Oranges.

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#14 ominous_titan
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The one who won GotY

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#15 m3dude1
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gameplay - mordor obviously

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Shadow of Mordor is actually a video game, The Order in contrast is a mindless derivative third person shooter that is far too busy being cinematic and getting in the players way. Mordor is almost entirely built around its half-baked gimmick, but the metagame is legitimately enjoyable to mess around with and lends itself to interesting player driven narratives. The Order you're stuck playing this scripted bullshit that tells Ready at Dawn's story, and that story fucking sucks dick. Both as a game and a plot.

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#17 BobRossPerm
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Shadow Of Mordor. I have to conclude that The Order is pretty fucking mediocre. What a waste of an opurtunity Ready At Dawn had.

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#18 mems_1224
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Well, mordor was actually a game so it kinda wins by default

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#19 mems_1224
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@bobrossperm: what? You mean a PSP developer whose only made b-tier entries into already established franchises couldn't make a great new ip on an actual console? Color me shocked.

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@bobrossperm said:

Shadow Of Mordor. I have to conclude that The Order is pretty fucking mediocre. What a waste of an opurtunity Ready At Dawn had.

Eh, they screwed the pooch, but you know growing pains and such. Sometimes you need to be smacked a bit before you go on to do bigger and better things. If they grow from this **** up, no harm no foul. If they continue to make the same mistakes, then it's a bit more troubling.

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#21 BobRossPerm
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@bobrossperm: what? You mean a PSP developer whose only made b-tier entries into already established franchises couldn't make a great new ip on an actual console? Color me shocked.

Their God Of War games were up to scratch with the PS2 games in a lot of ways. All that shows is that they can in fact do more with limited hardware than most developers out there. Only in The Order's case, they allocated their excess talents towards the visuals while leaving everything else as an afterthought. Resulting in a dog shit game.

The studio consists of true talent, but they focused on an aspect of gaming that arguably Naughty Dog made popular. But they over done it. If you are going to make a cinematic game, make it as good as Uncharted 2, The Last Of Us, or Tomb Raider. Don't make it Max Payne 3 2.0 with cutscenes during action sequences every 5 seconds.

Ready At Dawn are capable of much more than what they gave us with The Order.

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#22  Edited By jg4xchamp
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@bobrossperm said:
@mems_1224 said:

@bobrossperm: what? You mean a PSP developer whose only made b-tier entries into already established franchises couldn't make a great new ip on an actual console? Color me shocked.

Their God Of War games were up to scratch with the PS2 games in a lot of ways. All that shows is that they can in fact do more with limited hardware than most developers out there. Only in The Order's case, they allocated their excess talents towards the visuals while leaving everything else as an afterthought. Resulting in a dog shit game.

The studio consists of true talent, but they focused on an aspect of gaming that arguably Naughty Dog made popular. But they over done it. If you are going to make a cinematic game, make it as good as Uncharted 2, The Last Of Us, or Tomb Raider. Don't make it Max Payne 3 2.0 with cutscenes during action sequences every 5 seconds.

Ready At Dawn are capable of much more than what they gave us with The Order.

They were up to scratch in ways that aren't actually impressive.

They had benefit of hindsight and someone else doing all the hard work for them, and then basically copying, and fine tuning those mechanics, scenarios, ideas on a limited scope. Plus comparing the order to mp3 is a bit much, as bad as MP3 is with that cutscene shit, the actual shooting mechanics are fucking legit. The Order's shooting mechanics are average.

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#23  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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Joke thread?

One is a game of the year the other represents everything tired and stale about this hobby.

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#24  Edited By BobRossPerm
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@jg4xchamp said:

@bobrossperm said:

Shadow Of Mordor. I have to conclude that The Order is pretty fucking mediocre. What a waste of an opurtunity Ready At Dawn had.

Eh, they screwed the pooch, but you know growing pains and such. Sometimes you need to be smacked a bit before you go on to do bigger and better things. If they grow from this **** up, no harm no foul. If they continue to make the same mistakes, then it's a bit more troubling.

They are a capable studio. They should give an action game a go and leave the cinematic shooters to people who can actually make good games out of it. Their PSP games are vastly better games than The Order in every aspect bar the visuals so I only see this as a one off (unless it persists in future).

Though this game was a huge blow to their reputation and only a corker of a game could reverse it. Who knows?

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#25 Cloud_imperium
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There is a competition between those two? Should've compared The Order with Knack or something. Shadow of Mordor is helluva lot better. The Order is just a bad movie pretending to be a game.

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#26 finalstar2007
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havent played any of them but i will play The Order VERY SOON! it was on sale last night for $29.99 :D:D:D:D

Thank you amazon!

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@bobrossperm: sure, RAD are perfectly capable when working on someone else's franchise and following an outline. Clearly they aren't when it's their own ideas or lack there of.

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#28 BobRossPerm
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@jg4xchamp said:

@bobrossperm said:
@mems_1224 said:

@bobrossperm: what? You mean a PSP developer whose only made b-tier entries into already established franchises couldn't make a great new ip on an actual console? Color me shocked.

Their God Of War games were up to scratch with the PS2 games in a lot of ways. All that shows is that they can in fact do more with limited hardware than most developers out there. Only in The Order's case, they allocated their excess talents towards the visuals while leaving everything else as an afterthought. Resulting in a dog shit game.

The studio consists of true talent, but they focused on an aspect of gaming that arguably Naughty Dog made popular. But they over done it. If you are going to make a cinematic game, make it as good as Uncharted 2, The Last Of Us, or Tomb Raider. Don't make it Max Payne 3 2.0 with cutscenes during action sequences every 5 seconds.

Ready At Dawn are capable of much more than what they gave us with The Order.

They were up to scratch in ways that aren't actually impressive.

They had benefit of hindsight and someone else doing all the hard work for them, and then basically copying, and fine tuning those mechanics, scenarios, ideas on a limited scope. Plus comparing the order to mp3 is a bit much, as bad as MP3 is with that cutscene shit, the actual shooting mechanics are fucking legit. The Order's shooting mechanics are average.

Of course. Making your own IP is most of the battle and they done fucked up their first try. There's no spinning that. My point is that they know how to put together a good game, albiet in the style of someone elses work, but they can. There have been far worse handling of other peoples IP's than what RAD did. That 4th Jak and Daxter game comes to mind. Daxter on PSP is actually a good little game and doesn't feel like a money grab leeching on an established franchises name.

Max Payne 3 >>> The Order, but it handles it's cinematics very similar, thus the comparison. The Order is likely the worst game I've played in years and it's a shame from such a talented developer, which they are.

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This can't be a serious question?

One is a shite movie with shite near non existant gameplay and over used blur and fog to make gullible people think it was a graphical power house.

The other had an intresting story, excellent gameplay and actually had good graphics without the need to hide anything. It was also good enough to win Goty, even if you don't agree that it should have been or not, it was always a contender.

I know where you're getting the comparrison, in that Mordor used a lot of cutscenes and QTE's in gameplay. The major difference is that Mordor didn't over use either. Cutscenes helped to drive the story and missions and the majority of QTE's are quite subtle and used at the players discresion, i.e. executions and branding are used when you want to, not when your told to. The main exceptions being saving your life, excecuting some captains and branding beasts.

The Order took control away from the player at every opportunity and left you with a few button prompts.

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#30 BobRossPerm
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@mems_1224 said:

@bobrossperm: sure, RAD are perfectly capable when working on someone else's franchise and following an outline. Clearly they aren't when it's their own ideas or lack there of.

I agree.

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#31 slaves
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Enjoyed both but neither are great

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#32 blamix99
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Mordor for me, haven't played The Order yet. heard it was shiiit

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#33 GarGx1
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@finalstar2007 said:

havent played any of them but i will play The Order VERY SOON! it was on sale last night for $29.99 :D:D:D:D

Thank you amazon!

Don't waste your money dude, rent it or get it when it $5 if you have to buy it.

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#34 finalstar2007
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@GarGx1 said:

@finalstar2007 said:

havent played any of them but i will play The Order VERY SOON! it was on sale last night for $29.99 :D:D:D:D

Thank you amazon!

Don't waste your money dude, rent it or get it when it $5 if you have to buy it.

Too late it already shipped :P

Im sure i'll enjoy it, it looks like my type of game but i'll make sure i play half hour each day so i dont finish it in one run lol

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#35  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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Oh my hell not even close....Shadow was my GOTY last year, The Order was a decent rental.

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#36 IvanGrozny
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Are you kidding me ? Is it even a contest ? Shadow ofc.

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#37 glez13
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For me Shadow of Mordor wasn't real GOTY material last year, but still way better than 1886.

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#38  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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LOL Why are comparing a movie wannabe to a video game with actual gameplay?

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#39  Edited By IvanGrozny
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How exactly a 4-houy long videogame can even compete with a sandbox one ?

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#40 Bishop1310
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I'd have to say out of the two I'd got for The Return of The King. Great movie.

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#41 darkangel115
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Mordor is a good game. a solid 8 for me. The order is like a 5, was a terrible game, really short, and lacked any fun. I'd get mordor

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#42 iambatman7986
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Shadow of Mordor by a very long shot imo. 1886 is just a bland shooter that didn't get the formula quite right. SoM wasn't a game of the year imo, but it was waaaaaayyyy better than 1886.

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#43  Edited By deactivated-59d151f079814
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@jg4xchamp said:

@bobrossperm said:

Shadow Of Mordor. I have to conclude that The Order is pretty fucking mediocre. What a waste of an opurtunity Ready At Dawn had.

Eh, they screwed the pooch, but you know growing pains and such. Sometimes you need to be smacked a bit before you go on to do bigger and better things. If they grow from this **** up, no harm no foul. If they continue to make the same mistakes, then it's a bit more troubling.

................... Either the developer is full of dumbasses or they think the community is full of dumbasses.. You can't tell me that having the two bosses in the game being the exact same fight with qte combat was a "mistake".

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Shadow of Mordor was great and hey the Order was fun good shooting amazing visuals. Not everything needs to be a fetch quest offline MMO like the Hermits wish they were.

PS4: Better than PC.

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@Pray_to_me said:

Shadow of Mordor was great and hey the Order was fun good shooting amazing visuals. Not everything needs to be a fetch quest offline MMO like the Hermits wish they were.

PS4: Better than PC.

Fetch Quest MMO >>>>>>>>> The Order 5/10

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#46  Edited By lamprey263
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Shadow of Mordor was fun, granted I agree it wasn't so GOTY worthy, though I must admit I'm glad it got all that unwarranted attention since Monolith Productions has been getting shitted on by WBIE for the last few years and now the positive attention Shadow of Mordor has garnered gives the studio new life with which to make more awesome games like they used to make instead of joining that graveyard of forgotten developers that died before their time. At the very least Shadow of Mordor was still a cool game, cost me $20 to play and it easily felt worth it.

As for The Order 1886, damn that shit looks boring. It's probably more fun to make fun of than play.

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#47 GhoX
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Game of the Year vs Flop of the Year 1886

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#48  Edited By Sushiglutton
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I dunno, haven't played the Order. I don't think SoM is a good game by any stretch though. It's jammed pack with mediocre, very gamey content (collect two red and three yellow mushrooms) and the campaign plays like a tutorial. The world is among the dullest in OW history. The combat system is enjoyable, but the excessive use of QTEs takes some away (lol at the final boss).

Nemesis system is awesome and worked much better than I thought it would. Def deserves credit for this and think it can/will be implemented in other games. Imagine fighting ganglords in GTA or something like that. Could add longevity to the post-game for sure if it is combined with a smart economy.

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I haven't played either The Order sounds just terrible from everything I've read everywhere and Shadows of Mordor put me off with forced stealth I have had enough of that shit with AC it is all snoozeworthy to me now so to answer your question which is better... uh.... I don't really care.

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#50 Captainqwark10
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Well looking at Amazon and Bestbuy and etc. people are actually still buying Shadow of Mordor.

The order sold around 190,000 in february. It's current ltd is 216k, that means it sold only around 20,000 in march. The game is dead.