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#1 rocktimusprime
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The reviewers for shadowrun shafted the game IMO.

Between the two big online shooters for 360 and PS3, Warhawk is the best, but only after playing through Warhawk did I realize that it's score makes the score of Shadowrun unjustified.

Shadowrun was hit because:

"Lack of Variety" (maps and gameplay modes)

"Nothing to do with Shadowrun license"

"Animations incomplete" (this is justified"

Full retail price (shoulda been 39.99)

But seriously, lets think about warhawk.

It has only 5 maps, that are broken down into smaller maps depending on size, just like in Shadowrun.

It has no story and does absolutely nothing with the Warhawk license either.

It has only a few vehicles, Hawk, 4x4, Tank, and AA guns.

Warhawk does have the 39.99 price tag, or 59.99 with Blu Tooth and that is a steal so It's got that there.

Like I said, Warhawk is the better game, mainly for 32 person multi player and clan support, which Shadowrun does not have. But considering that an 8.5 game has the same demerits as a 6.9, I think that Shadowrun deserved more credit.

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#2 BioShockOwnz
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Yup, Gamespot has been quite unfair as of late. Oh well. Luckily, I don't let them make my decisions for me.
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#3 vickissv2
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what? it got mediocre scores everywhere
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#4 Timstuff
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The box art looks like @$$. That alone justifies any poor review it recieves.
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#5 BioShockOwnz
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The box art looks like @$$. That alone justifies any poor review it recieves.Timstuff

What good reasoning. I totally agree. Oh wait....:|

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#6 Bdking57
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shadowrun is super fun and deserved a higher score... but not for $60... luckily i had a deal where I got it for $40... so for me it was a steal! If the game matched warhawks 39 price tag...It would have faired much better.

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#7 Bdking57
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yes and all were based on the fact that it was a $60 multiplayer only game.. without the price argument its a great game. have to factor in also that the PS3 has much lower standards then the PS3 when it comes to FPS. shadowrun could have been AAA on PS3 considering the crap lineup currently available.

what? it got mediocre scores everywherevickissv2

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#8 Uptown
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yes and all were based on the fact that it was a $60 multiplayer only game.. without the price argument its a great game. have to factor in also that the PS3 has much lower standards then the PS3 when it comes to FPS. shadowrun could have been AAA on PS3 considering the crap lineup currently available.

[QUOTE="vickissv2"]what? it got mediocre scores everywhereBdking57

No.

Shadowrun just isnt as good as Warhawk. Stop the damage control.

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#9 cosmostein77
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The 6.9 was harsh,

Considering other lesser known shooters that lacked the same production values as Shadowrun scored higher.

But Reviews are generally the opinion of one or a small group of like minded people, what can you do.

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#10 Bread_or_Decide
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Playing warhawk online is free.

Free > Paid service.

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#11 SpruceCaboose
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Shadowrun is just an average game.

Besides, reviews are not some number handed down from above, they are just opinions of one person, and as such they will naturally vary from person to person. Its life.

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#12 dubvisions
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I guess Warhawk just did better. Is that so crazy. Maybe warhawk having the variation of the Warhawk plane, combined with the foot assault, was better than Shadowrun's unoriginal gameplay and douche characters.

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#13 FlockofSpagheti
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The box art looks like @$$. That alone justifies any poor review it recieves.Timstuff

Tell me should this game have received bad reviews...

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#14 cosmostein77
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Free > Paid service.

Bread_or_Decide

Assuming both are equal that is true,

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Yup, Gamespot has been quite unfair as of late. Oh well. Luckily, I don't let them make my decisions for me. BioShockOwnz

lol, just because they rate ONE PS3 game 8.5 suddenly you lose faith? Or was it because the 10 hr long game Bioshock got a 9.0 score ONLY?

Why do people think Metrioid has to have a AAA score?

If it makes you feel any better Heavenly Sword is going to Flop with a score of 8-8.5 and Lair is going to get a 7.0. Does that make all of you feel better?

All these games people are whining about are overrated POS. Just like I think HSword after playing the demo looked to be overrated but you still had people hyping it. Will it surprise anyone if Mass Effect gets below a 9? Yes but not me, I'm guessing that game is going to be 8-8.5.

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#16 blackace
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I haven't tried either game, but may try them once their price goes down. Shadowrun & Warhawk are not worth $60 that's for sure. The developers should have created a single player experience for both games. Maybe they will still do that. GS have shafted a lot of games over the last few months, which is why I don't agree with most of their scores. Blue Dragon deserved a better score then what they gave it.
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#17 GGNoRematch
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I played Shadowrun non stop for 2 months.. was hands down the best online game..bu bu t3h 60 bucks..

Such crap..

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#18 SpruceCaboose
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I guess Warhawk just did better. Is that so crazy. Maybe warhawk having the variation of the Warhawk plane, combined with the foot assault, was better than Shadowrun's unoriginal gameplay and douche characters.

dubvisions

I wouldn't have guessed that you'd say that! :roll:

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Yup, Gamespot has been quite unfair as of late. Oh well. Luckily, I don't let them make my decisions for me. darthogre

lol, just because they rate ONE PS3 game 8.5 suddenly you lose faith? Or was it because the 10 hr long game Bioshock got a 9.0 score ONLY?

Why do people think Metrioid has to have a AAA score?

If it makes you feel any better Heavenly Sword is going to Flop with a score of 8-8.5 and Lair is going to get a 7.0. Does that make all of you feel better?

All these games people are whining about are overrated POS. Just like I think HSword after playing the demo looked to be overrated but you still had people hyping it. Will it surprise anyone if Mass Effect gets below a 9? Yes but not me, I'm guessing that game is going to be 8-8.5.

ya some people are complaining about the tiger woods review

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#20 tmatte
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]The box art looks like @$$. That alone justifies any poor review it recieves.FlockofSpagheti

Tell me should this game have received bad reviews...

Man I still have nightmares about Megaman due to this boxart.

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#21 bulletmath
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roffles and waffles

there is only one good console multiplayer only game so far this gen and it is called warhawk

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#22 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Free > Paid service.

cosmostein77

Assuming both are equal that is true,

With the PS3 its on a game by game basis. Warhawk is a great online game. That coupled with it being free to play online adds to the value of the package. Plus the $40 price tag helps.

This thread is just sour grapes. Warhawk is a better game according to gamespot. Please, don't go whining about it. 360 has so many great online games, let the PS3 have its two. (Warhawk and resistance.)

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#23 FlockofSpagheti
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roffles and waffles

there is only one good multiplayer only game so far this gen and it is called warhawk

bulletmath

Actually it is called Shadowrun...

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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]The box art looks like @$$. That alone justifies any poor review it recieves.FlockofSpagheti

Tell me should this game have received bad reviews...

Is that the real box art? it was considered high resolution? people new about high resolution? EL...OH...EL.....

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#25 StephenHu
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Shadowrun had a bunch of books and SNES game with a big following but none of that license was shown in the game. Warhawk only had a PS1 game with not that big of a following.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Yup, Gamespot has been quite unfair as of late. Oh well. Luckily, I don't let them make my decisions for me. darthogre

lol, just because they rate ONE PS3 game 8.5 suddenly you lose faith? Or was it because the 10 hr long game Bioshock got a 9.0 score ONLY?

I have yet to find a review that states BioShock was anything less than 15 hours long, and I myself took 18 hours to get through the game fully.

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#28 FlockofSpagheti
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[QUOTE="FlockofSpagheti"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]The box art looks like @$$. That alone justifies any poor review it recieves.mohammad112388

Tell me should this game have received bad reviews...

Is that the real box art? it was considered high resolution? people new about high resolution? EL...OH...EL.....

Awesome game though...

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#29 waynehead895
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I realy had so much fun with Shadowrun and because of this it makes me want to try Warhawk.
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#30 No_Talent_Dev
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Shadow is hella fun
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#31 waynehead895
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roffles and waffles

there is only one good console multiplayer only game so far this gen and it is called warhawk

bulletmath

Resistance, Gears, CoD2 say Hello. And I doubt you've played Shadowrun. It's really fun.

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#32 GTANJ
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You have to understand. The Shadowrun gameplay is G A R B A G E.
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#33 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="bulletmath"]

roffles and waffles

there is only one good console multiplayer only game so far this gen and it is called warhawk

waynehead895

Resistance, Gears, CoD2 say Hello. And I doubt you've played Shadowrun. It's really fun.

To be fair, he said multiplayer only games, and Resistence, Gears, and CoD2 have single player components.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Yup, Gamespot has been quite unfair as of late. Oh well. Luckily, I don't let them make my decisions for me. darthogre

lol, just because they rate ONE PS3 game 8.5 suddenly you lose faith? Or was it because the 10 hr long game Bioshock got a 9.0 score ONLY?

Why do people think Metrioid has to have a AAA score?

If it makes you feel any better Heavenly Sword is going to Flop with a score of 8-8.5 and Lair is going to get a 7.0. Does that make all of you feel better?

All these games people are whining about are overrated POS. Just like I think HSword after playing the demo looked to be overrated but you still had people hyping it. Will it surprise anyone if Mass Effect gets below a 9? Yes but not me, I'm guessing that game is going to be 8-8.5.

Um, I just don't care. I change my own pants. I can make my own decisions on what is worthy of my money.

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#36 Newnab
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Shadowrun was underrated, but whether or not it's better than Warhawk I don't know.

All I know is Shadowrun has given me a hell of a lot of fun this summer.

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#37 darthogre
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Yup, Gamespot has been quite unfair as of late. Oh well. Luckily, I don't let them make my decisions for me. SpruceCaboose

lol, just because they rate ONE PS3 game 8.5 suddenly you lose faith? Or was it because the 10 hr long game Bioshock got a 9.0 score ONLY?

I have yet to find a review that states BioShock was anything less than 15 hours long, and I myself took 18 hours to get through the game fully.

I've seen more than a couple people say they were able to beat the game in 10-12 hrs.

Why, because they didn't care about exploring. They just went in, killed went to the next level. Just because you add extra stuff to explore doesn't mean it's a longer game.

I just had a meetings with 3rd party developers for all consoles (well most of them) and it's there opinion that short games is ALL due to the fact the casual gamer has a short attention span. They are making the games shorter mostly because they are targeting that sweet casual spot more than anything. Bioshock was a good example that was used (as was H.Sword).

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#38 dhjohns
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Playing warhawk online is free.

Free > Paid service.

Bread_or_Decide

Not sure that factored into the review. Could be wrong, but I don't think that part is relevant for the score.

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#39 No_Talent_Dev
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You have to understand. The Shadowrun gameplay is G A R B A G E.GTANJ

And you probably don't own it so stifle

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#40 paraskhos_basic
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Playing warhawk online is free.

Free > Paid service.

Bread_or_Decide
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#41 dimar19
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Man, 8.1 VF 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warhawk

Welcome to Gamespot

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#42 casey7672
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Warhawk deserves a 1.6 higher than Shadowrun.

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#43 casey7672
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Man, 8.1 VF 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warhawk

Welcome to Gamespot

dimar19

Not really. I own both games.

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#44 dimar19
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Not really. I own both games.

casey7672

And this prove anything? That crap MO only shooter is better then king of all fightings? :D

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#45 Puppa_Shogun
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[QUOTE="dimar19"]

Man, 8.1 VF 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warhawk

Welcome to Gamespot

casey7672

Not really. I own both games.

Ya my buddy has VF 5 and no its not better then warhawk. Going by VF 5's 8.1 Warhawk should of gotten a 10. Although this is coming from a Street Fighter/Tekken fan.

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#46 mattyomo99
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The reviewers for shadowrun shafted the game IMO.

Between the two big online shooters for 360 and PS3, Warhawk is the best, but only after playing through Warhawk did I realize that it's score makes the score of Shadowrun unjustified.

Shadowrun was hit because:

"Lack of Variety" (maps and gameplay modes)

"Nothing to do with Shadowrun license"

"Animations incomplete" (this is justified"

Full retail price (shoulda been 39.99)

But seriously, lets think about warhawk.

It has only 5 maps, that are broken down into smaller maps depending on size, just like in Shadowrun.

It has no story and does absolutely nothing with the Warhawk license either.

It has only a few vehicles, Hawk, 4x4, Tank, and AA guns.

Warhawk does have the 39.99 price tag, or 59.99 with Blu Tooth and that is a steal so It's got that there.

Like I said, Warhawk is the better game, mainly for 32 person multi player and clan support, which Shadowrun does not have. But considering that an 8.5 game has the same demerits as a 6.9, I think that Shadowrun deserved more credit.

rocktimusprime

ur wrong warhawk has 5 maps, and the five zones make a huge differance when u play. warhawk was a flying game where u flew an airplane around.. sounds similar to me. it has a warahawk, 4x4, tank, rail guns, turrets, and AA guns... for each side. and i played shadowrun and it sucked hardcore and no where near as much fun as warhawk. they both desirved what they got

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#47 blazinpuertoroc
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no shadowrun was just a bad game...and looks like ass to boot
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[QUOTE="bulletmath"]

roffles and waffles

there is only one good multiplayer only game so far this gen and it is called warhawk

FlockofSpagheti

Actually it is called Shadowrun...

That won't work,seeing as how Warhawk isn't "Warflop" anymore :)
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Yup, Gamespot has been quite unfair as of late. Oh well. Luckily, I don't let them make my decisions for me. BioShockOwnz

lol, just because they rate ONE PS3 game 8.5 suddenly you lose faith? Or was it because the 10 hr long game Bioshock got a 9.0 score ONLY?

Why do people think Metrioid has to have a AAA score?

If it makes you feel any better Heavenly Sword is going to Flop with a score of 8-8.5 and Lair is going to get a 7.0. Does that make all of you feel better?

All these games people are whining about are overrated POS. Just like I think HSword after playing the demo looked to be overrated but you still had people hyping it. Will it surprise anyone if Mass Effect gets below a 9? Yes but not me, I'm guessing that game is going to be 8-8.5.

Um, I just don't care. I change my own pants. I can make my own decisions on what is worthy of my money.

So basically,you don't trust GameSpots reviews ;) ?
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#50 cosmostein77
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[QUOTE="cosmostein77"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Free > Paid service.

Bread_or_Decide

Assuming both are equal that is true,

With the PS3 its on a game by game basis. Warhawk is a great online game. That coupled with it being free to play online adds to the value of the package. Plus the $40 price tag helps.

This thread is just sour grapes. Warhawk is a better game according to gamespot. Please, don't go whining about it. 360 has so many great online games, let the PS3 have its two. (Warhawk and resistance.)

I am not commenting on Warhawk, as it is a game I actually do enjoy.

The point I am making is that your point about free online service > paid online service is true assuming that the service and quality of both is the same, As a gamer who uses both I don't agree that PS3's online service is equal to that of Live.

Although the lower price of Warhawk, coupled with free online play on a server that I will admit has been pretty darn good does help the cause of Warhawk, it does not make PS3 online better then Live.