Shall we talk about how mediocre the new FFXV footage looks?

Guys, I don't usually make threads but let's give this a go. This game looks extremely lackluster, we could just blame the guy that was playing in the footage, he wasn't very good at the game was he? But I think it was something more than that. Let's go over some of the things that made me cringe.

- The voice acting, that guy with the over the top posh british accent and the overly hyperactive whiny dude(what's his name? Prompto?) Both of them sounded completely out of place in this epic battle against a Titan. Not to mention just sounded annoying as all hell. I do not want to hear these two babble on whilst I'm in some epic and suspenseful situation. It's immersion breaking.

- The combat.. It looked clunky, repetitive and simplistic all at the same time. What is there to this combat really? You hold square down and Noctis wails away with his sword and pretty particle effects happen. That's basically it. Oh but there's QTEs and dodging! But dodging is pointless as shown in the video because Noctis can survive multiple stone giant punches to the face. This game can't even be considered a button masher because it's even more dumbed down than that. You simply hold a button down and the game plays itself.

- In game hints.. "Hey dumba$s! throw ice grenade at enemy to insta kill!" Thanks game. *Insulted*

- QTEs.. Need I say more.

- Party AI is going to be a problem in this game quite clearly. Thanks for not allowing me to change party members SE!.

I could go on honestly but then I'd just be creating a huge wall of text. So I'll leave at that. The game just doesn't look promising at all. From a graphical stand point sure but everything else is just below average at best. I sense another FF flop for SE. They failed yet again. This is not the Final Fantasy I know and love.

This should not be surprising. The game has looked (gameplay wise) like rubbish for a long time. They have not done anything to make me think to the contrary. The demo shown perfectly demonstrated this.

yeah i have to agree

That footage looked abysmal and as a massive ff fan it pains me to say that.

I didn't get to see the footage, but if what you said is true, I smell mass casualization of the game.

im not sure what to make of it. looking at it it looked messy. perhaps it makes a lot more sense when actually playing it.

it wasnt a stellar demo. i still have a good feeling about it though....i think it could be the kick in the ass that FF needs.

Casualization? Explain?

I haven't seen it coz I dun want any spoilers but I keep seeing the same negative feedback, I am really concerned now.

@Pedro

It looked fine to me, but I've also been able to play Duscae and the Platinum Demo which makes it easier to contextualize. Granted, this game is the strangest lovechild I've ever seen and I'm more interested in it not because I genuinely think it's going to be good, but because of my own morbid curiosity to know what sort of franksenstein creature has been created. My 17 year old self still remembers when this game first reared its freakish face and I'm committed to seeing it through.

Also, there's not a snowball's chance in hell this game sells 10mil copies. Perhaps lifetime it hits 5mil, and I think I'm being generous. Maybe if they include something FFVII related it would help boost early adoption and S-E's margins some.

Did you expect anything else, the previous demos were pretty terrible and the when key people have been total hacks, that is not a good sign.

Nomura has the Midas touch of shit.

Yep.

Well I'll say this. I loved FFXIII, and I was planning on buying FFXV day 1. ( one of the very few games I was buying at launch this year) and after Duscae and the awful e3 showing I'm no longer buying it. I'm no longer hyped at all, looks shit.

YUp, other than graphics, and potential scale.... this new FF looks bad.

Never liked the boyband idea... are there even any playable female companions?

Annoying hyper character I hated from day 1... I dont mind noctis, but beyond that, what a generic looking bunch.

Why is it that SE are so out of touch with what made past games so great?

oh weird, that game doesnt look good? im so shocked. literally cannot believe it

Still optimistic but way less hyped and I thought it was a technical demo of how the characters react when they are hit by the enemy.

I really enjoyed the Platinum Demo as well as Episode Duscae. I'm hyped for this game and am kinda glad I got distracted with work when they were showing this off because apparently it was disastrously bad.

wheres the footage?

FF has been a pretty crappy downhill series ever since 8

They've had 10 years to create something amazing and no doubt anyone would expect something amazing after 10 years. The more I see this game the more disappointed I get. "10 years for this?" I think to myself. I suspect this game will be pretty massive in scope.. but the game needs more quality than quantity. The only thing that can save this game for me at this point is it's storyline. The gameplay has failed me, the story is the only thing I can latch onto now.

Yump, and Tabata doesn't seem to be that much better.

Fraud-Enix only knows how to make a game look "pretty", and even that part is debatable.

If you experimented with the combat system in the platinum demo, you would know its combat system got much more depth then just holding down a button. If you do directional imputs while holding the attack button Noctis will use different skills that are unique to each type of weapon, for example if you hold the attack button and the left stick away from the enemy with a greatsword you will perform the skill called "tempest". Also if you press the attack button inmediatly after Noctis recovers from an attack string he will execute a "special" which is also unique to each type of weapon, for example with the special you get with the greatsword is a charged attack. Each type of weapon have different attributes that are more than stats, for example the greatsword has very high physical damage but its very slow and you cannot cancel an attack animation into a dodge, the shuriken has a warp strike that inmediatly stun most enemies, the shield you can stun an enemy if you press the block button right before an enemy attack connects and so on. From what was shown in the platinum demo, the game has the potential to have decent amount of depth in terms of gameplay mechanics. The E3 showing at the MS conference was terrible though, but hopefully that is because the guy playing it had no clue of how to play the game.

I'm still buying it day 1 but I'm not expecting it to live up to 10 years of hype.

>Post yfw Wold of Final Fantasy is currently shaping up to be a better game

Cancelled my pre-order. Not joking.

Looked downright bad. No idea why SE had the brilliant idea to showcase such a bad demo. Tabata is a fucking hack.

Tabata is the director and I doubt Nomura would have let this happen.

Is there any footage for this that actually looked good? Both playable demos were awful and the devs keep posting pictures of rocks on Twitter to get us hyped.

ok saw the footage and yea the showcase itself was pretty dam bad. Though it doesint negate the other previous two demos iv played and enjoyed.

When a game developer focuses on the graphics and most of the information is about graphical features its typically a sign of crappy gameplay.

That's why it's a damn shame Persona 5 won't be ready to release side by side internationally at the same time, by contrast it could have garnered better critical reception and stolen FF's thunder.

I'm barely interested. I thought the combat in the demo was awful and I haven't seen yet what is supposed to draw me into the world. FF still seems to have died.

I'll keep my eye on it - sometimes these companies fail at showing what is awesome about their product, but I'm pretty cool on ffxv at this point

I was never interested in it, but it does look much worse than I thought it would.

Are these the same guys in charge of the FF7 remake? ... no hope there either...

FF has been a shit stain on the pants of RPG's for a long time. Shut it down.

Not gonna pretend that Tabata has a clean slate here, but this game was Nomuras shit show for the better part of the last decade. From game design, to character design, to story, to overall art direction and technical aspects, Nomura was steering this ship for years.

Can't exactly blame the clean up guy who took over the project years after it should have released.

10 years...

Plus Kingdom Hearts is doo-doo, so the narrative Nomura also isn't doo-doo needs a cease and desist.

Crazy shit man. At a certain point I figured they'd just scrap the project.

I can't wait until they drop this turd and move onto something new.

that demo was so bad. Out of the entire game, they chose that to show off

Exactly man, it's not like FFXV is a blemish on an otherwise clean record. Nomura sucking ass should be expected.

The gameplay trailer they showed reminded me of Resident Evil 6's initial trailer.

The gameplay looked like ass. Kinda sad that this is the result of 10 years of work.

I was a Junior in HS lol.

Ive been naysaying and shitting on this game's demos and trailers for months. I hope this game bombs, and bombs hard. The demos were absolutely atrocious, and I hope this is a wakeup call for the franchise. FF15 will suck. No doubts from me

Sigh. But FFXIII was supposed to be the wake-up call. And then FFXIII-2. ... And then Lightning Returns.

It wasn't terrible but... I am not sure if I am going to keep my preorder right now for the deluxe edition.

I think if they had somebody more experienced with the fight showcasing it, maybe that would help but I dunno.

Quite obvious they were really hard at work over the past 10 years =P

I just dont see how anyone can defend this game. 10 years of dev time and this is what they show? This is barely passable action game-y stuff.

Well, Duke Nukem Forever took over ten years to make... and look how that turned out.