Sheep --- Do you think Nintendo arrogance will be their ultimate downfall?

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#1 AvIdGaMeR444
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Nintendo is doing very well right now.Nintendo became increasingly arrogantbecause they were doing so well during the NES and SNES days. So, they made N64 and thought it would sell like hotcakes without a lotof 3rd party support and expensive cartridge format.Sony crushed them with PlayStation.Nintendo decided to buck the trend again with smaller discs that couldn't fit as much data with Gamecube. Nintendo lost 3rd party support again. Nintendo was finally humbled and their arrogance left. Then they release the Wii, and it sells very well. Now, there are signs that Nintendo arrogance is returning. What concerns me most about Nintendo is that they will once again get blinded by their arrogance and fall down even harder this time. Remember, the videogame industry is a big swinging pendulum. Nintendo is at top right now. Sony got arrogant and fell. Nintendo will do the same...again. The real question is when...

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#2 deadlyassassin_
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every company is arrogant all the time. it doesnt matter which company you look at. It ultimately comes down to was the system design good or not?
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#3 haziqonfire
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It wont be they're downfall, but its VERY annoying, with any company. I hope its only a temporary thing, i dont want to hear PR people talking out of they're bums.
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#4 mdisen2
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Please. Nintendo isn't anymore arrogent than Microsoft or Sony.

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#5 Willy105
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I hope the new PR people aren't as hard headed.
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#6 AntiType
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its the cycle it seems... nintendo's last downfall was theirarrogance... Sony also fell to their own arrogance. MS never had anything to be arrogant about in the gaming world.
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#7 Meu2k7
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E32007 : "People are saying the Wii has poor online, this simple isnt true, look at Pokemon Coluseam and DS games"

:lol: ... and now they "claim" that the feedback on thier friend codes has been mostly positive.... soemthings up.

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#8 Erkidu
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All three companies are arrogant. Stop fooling yourself.
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#9 Ragnarok1051
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its the cycle it seems... nintendo's last downfall was theirarrogance... Sony also fell to their own arrogance. MS never had anything to be arrogant about in the gaming world.AntiType

The funny thing is the lemmings are the most arrogant in system wars.

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#10 StryderK
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Arrogant? Yes.

Fact is, if Nintendo do appeararrogant right now, people would actuallythink they would be weird if they don't. The problem here is don't over do it and think too full of yourselves. Nintendo did that with the N64 and look what happened. Sony thought full of themselves and is now taking it on the chin. Reggie and company maybe arrogant, but unlike Sony or the big honcho himself, Yamauchi, they learned their lesson and only take a look over the abyss but know when to pull back. Sony on the other hand, not only look at the abyss but completely jumped down there and discovered the abyss is full of shaznit and they are all covered in it! Now its a long hard climb back to the top......Nintendo already done it and they can still smell the stink wafting from that particular experience. I don't think Nintendo would care to repeat that experience! However, if we start to hear Nintendo version of "Disiplining Children","The Giant-Crab" or "We can sell 5 million units without a game". Then it's time to start worring!

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#11 goblaa
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Yes, but it will take a few gens for it to happen.
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#12 Tylendal
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At least Reggie isn't that arrogant. He openly complimented Microsoft and Sony.
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#13 Popadophalis
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Let's be serious here Nintendo lost market share in the N63 an GC eras because they made bad decisions with regards to their console by choosing the cartidge and mini-dvd formats. Sony also made bad business decisions and choices this generation by creating such an expensive and hard to develop for console which is why the PS3 isn't doing so well at this point in time.

Yet neither of these "downfalls" were caused by arrogance -yes it may have played a small factor but ultimately poor decision making is what caused those consoles to go downhill. All that besides both Iwata and Shigeru Miyamoto have both been shown to be very humble about their latest success only Reggie has been spouting off a little:D

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#14 Serraph105
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actually nintendo does not seem that arrogant as of late so give a link or some example of them being arrogant to prove me wrong but as of right now Nintendo seems to be very aware that this is what led to there near demise and trying very hard not to do it again
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#15 Blackbond
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Nintendo is doing very well right now.Nintendo became increasingly arrogantbecause they were doing so well during the NES and SNES days. So, they made N64 and thought it would sell like hotcakes without a lotof 3rd party support and expensive cartridge format.Sony crushed them with PlayStation.Nintendo decided to buck the trend again with smaller discs that couldn't fit as much data with Gamecube. Nintendo lost 3rd party support again. Nintendo was finally humbled and their arrogance left. Then they release the Wii, and it sells very well.Now, there are signs that Nintendo arrogance is returning. What concerns me most about Nintendo is that they will once again get blinded by their arrogance and fall down even harder this time. Remember, the videogame industry is a big swinging pendulum. Nintendo is at top right now. Sony got arrogant and fell. Nintendo will do the same...again. The real question is when...

AvIdGaMeR444

Huh? Can you give examples please? Oh and while you're at it predicting that Nintendo will do it again can you please give me the numbers to the next lottery with your pychic powers?

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#16 Private_Vegas
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I really don't see Nintendo as Arrogant. I still think of Sony as the most arrogant on the "Big Three".

"The next generation doesn't start until we say it does." Take a walk.

I think MS and Nin are in a close race for second most arrogant.

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#17 yoshi_64
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Show me one company who doesn't spew PR to try and make themselves look superior.

I don't understand how Nintendo is being "arrogant" still today... there are some things I disagree with in their sayings or even views at times, sure, but I do have that with every other company too.

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#18 sexy_chimp
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Nah, I think it's just Reggie taking over your mind.
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#19 REforever101
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i guess they have to be arrogant....but they should check themselves carefully

looks what excessive arrogance "helped" do to sony

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#20 glitchgeeman
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All three companies are arrogant. Nintendo thinks they can win with a bunch of mini-game compilations. Sony thinks they can win without any games and aformerly attrocious pricetag. Microsoft thinks they can win with an unreliable console an unfairly expensive online. All companies have a degree of arrogance, just how great of a degree that arrogance is what matters.
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#21 Chipp
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Let's be serious here Nintendo lost market share in the N64 an GC eras because they made bad decisions with regards to their console by choosing the cartidge and mini-dvd formats. Sony also made bad business decisions and choices this generation by creating such an expensive and hard to develop for console which is why the PS3 isn't doing so well at this point in time.

Yet neither of these "downfalls" were caused by arrogance -yes it may have played a small factor but ultimately poor decision making is what caused those consoles to go downhill. All that besides both Iwata and Shigeru Miyamoto have both been shown to be very humble about their latest success only Reggie has been spouting off a little:D

Popadophalis

Exactly. Nintendo's choice of format has been the downfall of them for the last 2 generations. At least they finally gave in and went with the freaking DVD format this time.

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#22 creativeminded
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I don't think it's that bad but i want to start hearing more news on new games instead of Wii fitness (i'm interested in it but i would prefer a mad adventure game or something)