Sheep say the Gamecube can do these graphics. Do you agree or disagree?

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#1 PhoebusFlows
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This was a 2005 fan-made mock up of what Metroid Prime Corruption was going to look like:

Now I know this isn't exactly the most stunning thing ever. It looks every bit like it was made by someone at home.

But this pic to me shows something way beyond what the Wii could ever do.

But a couple sheep said the Gamecube could do that easily. I don't even think the Wii could do this. What do you think? I have the Gamecube and never saw anything like this.

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#2 gamecode101
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dude pikmin 2 looked like that. the gamecube could do it
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#4 kingpoopa84
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TC I don't get what you're trying to say hear?:?
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#5 Shazenab
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Thats fan art, like you said, So I dunno where you thought wii fans were pointing to THAT pic. If the Wii can do mario galaxy it can do that.
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#6 ---OkeyDokey---
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..............what?
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#7 Kurrupt07
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Uh oh, I think Crysis has met her match..
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#8 ithilgore2006
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You're about 2 years late with this topic.
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#9 AvIdGaMeR444
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Is the Wii capable of those graphics? Sure. Is it capable of those graphics without massive framerate issues? Probably not.
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#10 Homesrfan
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Maybe.. maybe not. Either way it would be pushing it to its limits.

The Wii could definitely do it. At a closer look, it's not really that impressive. Look at the water... I mean... is that even water? I've never seen water that looks like that.

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#11 Teuf_
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That's CG. No, your GameCube can't do that.
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#12 JPOBS
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wii oculd never do that water.
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#13 GundamGuy0
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wii oculd never do that water. JPOBS

That's the worst looking water I have ever seen...

Im glad...

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#14 emawk
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dude pikmin 2 looked like that. the gamecube could do itgamecode101

Huh?

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#15 Homesrfan
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]wii oculd never do that water. GundamGuy0

That's the worst looking water I have ever seen...

Im glad...

I agree. It's like water with oil... and... I don't even know.

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#16 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]wii oculd never do that water. Homesrfan

That's the worst looking water I have ever seen...

Im glad...

I agree. It's like water with oil... and... I don't even know.

More like mercury...

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#17 wavebrid
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you fail when you said "look like someone did this at home"

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#18 emawk
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Maybe.. maybe not. Either way it would be pushing it to its limits.

The Wii could definitely do it. At a closer look, it's not really that impressive. Look at the water... I mean... is that even water? I've never seen water that looks like that.

Homesrfan

The Wii couldn't do it (not by a long shot) if those graphics where used for a 10-20 hour game. It looks way better than the MP 3 we have today.

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#19 GundamGuy0
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T[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]

Maybe.. maybe not. Either way it would be pushing it to its limits.

The Wii could definitely do it. At a closer look, it's not really that impressive. Look at the water... I mean... is that even water? I've never seen water that looks like that.

emawk

The Wii couldn't do it (not by a long shot) if those graphics where used for a 10-20 hour game.

There are no textures on alot of things in that picture...

and your game length assertion is totaly wrong... if the whole game looks like that area then it could be 900 hours... using those textures most of the time.

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#20 emawk
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[QUOTE="emawk"]T[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]

Maybe.. maybe not. Either way it would be pushing it to its limits.

The Wii could definitely do it. At a closer look, it's not really that impressive. Look at the water... I mean... is that even water? I've never seen water that looks like that.

GundamGuy0

The Wii couldn't do it (not by a long shot) if those graphics where used for a 10-20 hour game.

There are no textures on alot of things in that picture...

and your game length assertion is totaly wrong... if the whole game looks like that area then it could be 900 hours... using those textures most of the time.

Umm...I don't see anything wrong with those textures. If MP3 could look like that (with the inclusion of a few other content), I would rush out and get a Wii. Ok, maybe not, but you get the point.

If they were to make a MP 3 with those graphics (touching up the water a little bit), I would be happier.

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#21 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="emawk"]T[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]

Maybe.. maybe not. Either way it would be pushing it to its limits.

The Wii could definitely do it. At a closer look, it's not really that impressive. Look at the water... I mean... is that even water? I've never seen water that looks like that.

emawk

The Wii couldn't do it (not by a long shot) if those graphics where used for a 10-20 hour game.

There are no textures on alot of things in that picture...

and your game length assertion is totaly wrong... if the whole game looks like that area then it could be 900 hours... using those textures most of the time.

Umm...I don't see anything wrong with those textures. If MP3 could look like that (in addition to few other content), I would rush out and get a Wii. Ok, maybe not, but you get the point.

If they were to make a MP 3 with those graphics (touching up the water a little bit),

... You want to know how I know your trolling... That picture looks terrible.

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#22 emawk
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[QUOTE="emawk"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="emawk"]T[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]

Maybe.. maybe not. Either way it would be pushing it to its limits.

The Wii could definitely do it. At a closer look, it's not really that impressive. Look at the water... I mean... is that even water? I've never seen water that looks like that.

GundamGuy0

The Wii couldn't do it (not by a long shot) if those graphics where used for a 10-20 hour game.

There are no textures on alot of things in that picture...

and your game length assertion is totaly wrong... if the whole game looks like that area then it could be 900 hours... using those textures most of the time.

Umm...I don't see anything wrong with those textures. If MP3 could look like that (in addition to few other content), I would rush out and get a Wii. Ok, maybe not, but you get the point.

If they were to make a MP 3 with those graphics (touching up the water a little bit),

... You want to know how I know your trolling... That picture looks terrible.

Not to me.

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#23 haziqonfire
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The wii is capable of producing those graphics.
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#24 Eponique
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Easily :\ It doesn't even look good IMO
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#25 GundamGuy0
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Not to me.

emawk

XD If that picture doesn't look bad to you... then how can you complain about the Wii graphics... The textures are not nearly as muddied, everything is sharper... and the lighting is better.

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#26 TreyoftheDead
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That looks like crap. Seriously, look at the water that the Morph Ball is shedding, it looks like it's from a PS1 game. MP1 looks better than that.
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#27 Eponique
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That looks like crap. Seriously, look at the water that the Morph Ball is shedding, it looks like it's from a PS1 game. MP1 looks better than that.TreyoftheDead

Wouldn't go that low :P It looks like a slightly below average Gamecube game.

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#28 haziqonfire
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That looks like crap. Seriously, look at the water that the Morph Ball is shedding, it looks like it's from a PS1 game. MP1 looks better than that.TreyoftheDead

its looks better than anything PS1 could do. Its low quality gamecube at best.

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#29 prozack28
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yes gc could do it.
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#30 emawk
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[QUOTE="emawk"]

Not to me.

GundamGuy0

XD If that picture doesn't look bad to you... then how can you complain about the Wii graphics... The textures are not nearly as muddied, everything is sharper... and the lighting is better.

Does Gears of War have bad lighting? As for the textures, they are better than most of the things I;ve seen on the Wii. The tectures are there.

It must be the artsyle that I'm liking. I wouldn't mind MP3 looking like that.

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#31 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="emawk"]

Not to me.

emawk

XD If that picture doesn't look bad to you... then how can you complain about the Wii graphics... The textures are not nearly as muddied, everything is sharper... and the lighting is better.

Does Gears of War have bad lighting? As for the textures, they are better than most of the things I;ve seen on the Wii. The tectures are there.

It must be the artsyle that I'm liking. I wouldn't mind MP3 looking like that.

No Gears of War doesn't...... Seriously where have you been looking... Those textures are terrible...

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#32 TreyoftheDead
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[QUOTE="TreyoftheDead"]That looks like crap. Seriously, look at the water that the Morph Ball is shedding, it looks like it's from a PS1 game. MP1 looks better than that.Eponique

Wouldn't go that low :P It looks like a slightly below average Gamecube game.

Haha.

I'm not talking about the entire picture, just the sprays of water shooting from behind the morph ball...it's hideous.

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#33 holdenlowe
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Yeah, the gamecube could pull off graphics that look like that. I mean, it doesn't even look that great.
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#34 blues3531
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Thats fan art, like you said, So I dunno where you thought wii fans were pointing to THAT pic. If the Wii can do mario galaxy it can do that.Shazenab

are you serious? if it can do mario galaxy it can do that? im guessin u have no idea of graphics tech so here, notice that pick has 0 jaggies, perfect anti alias somethin wii could never do as well with taht bright hdr/bloom lighting, cant be done on wii and i think the most obvious standout is the water surface with full world reflections...you will never ever in your life see that in real time on a wii or gc game

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#35 emawk
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[QUOTE="emawk"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="emawk"]

Not to me.

GundamGuy0

XD If that picture doesn't look bad to you... then how can you complain about the Wii graphics... The textures are not nearly as muddied, everything is sharper... and the lighting is better.

Does Gears of War have bad lighting? As for the textures, they are better than most of the things I;ve seen on the Wii. The tectures are there.

It must be the artsyle that I'm liking. I wouldn't mind MP3 looking like that.

No Gears of War doesn't...... Seriously where have you been looking... Those textures are terrible...

Maybe the image was suppose to be dark, just like the many areas in MP 3?

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#36 Silvereign
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dude pikmin 2 looked like that. the gamecube could do itgamecode101

:roll:

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#37 stkr
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The Gamecube could definitely do that.
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#38 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Shazenab"]Thats fan art, like you said, So I dunno where you thought wii fans were pointing to THAT pic. If the Wii can do mario galaxy it can do that.blues3531

are you serious? if it can do mario galaxy it can do that? im guessin u have no idea of graphics tech so here, notice that pick has 0 jaggies, perfect anti alias somethin wii could never do as well with taht bright hdr/bloom lighting, cant be done on wii and i think the most obvious standout is the water surface with full world reflections...you will never ever in your life see that in real time on a wii or gc game



You're very very right. Like I said its obviously CG, and even if this obviously wasn't made by a professional it still has wasy better image quality then you would ever get out of a GameCube.

Is that Muse in your sig, btw?
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#39 TreyoftheDead
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TP water looks much better than that water IMO and that's a horrible screenshot of TP.

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#40 Teuf_
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TP water looks much better than that water IMO and that's a horrible screenshot of TP.

TreyoftheDead

You mean the water that has absolutely zero reflections in it?

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#41 TreyoftheDead
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[QUOTE="TreyoftheDead"]

TP water looks much better than that water IMO and that's a horrible screenshot of TP.

Teufelhuhn

You mean the water that has absolutely zero reflections in it?

You got me there. :P

I was referring to the look of the water. The one in the CG Metroid picture it looks silvery and kind of oily, while the water in the TP shot is clean and beatuiful. But yes, the TP shot lacks reflection.

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#42 nyoroism
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After seeing what a bloom effect can do to Twilight Princess, and after seeing the water and heat blur in Super Mario Sunshine, I'd say that it would be able to.
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#43 EndlessGame
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Something that looks like that could easily be done on even the GC if it was during a CG cinematic. (Nothing to do with the game's engine.) Fire Emblem Path of Radiance's cinematics looked that good.
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#44 foxhound_fox
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Looks exactly like Metroid Prime except for the BioShock styIe water effects. I'd bet the Gamecube could do it... after seeing what that thing could actually do.
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#45 Ospi
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"slaps forehead" most pointless thread...

Ppl really going out of their way to try and diss other consoles now arnt they, pathetic.

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#46 dracula_16
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Here is a solution: if you ever ask yourself "can the Wii handle this?" just ask yourself if the Gamecube can and you have your answer.

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#47 Goten_king
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Probably not as intricuit on those water effects. It could probably find away to cheat that and simulate the effect. But overall, most of that is doable. Retro is one of the best studios and they could find a way to pull it off.
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#49 Eponique
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Here is a solution: if you ever ask yourself "can the Wii handle this?" just ask yourself if the Gamecube can and you have your answer.

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omg thx 4 the answer, o wise 1.

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#50 marioraider
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Why do we care about the Gamecube? That's long and gone first off.

And it was fan-made art 2 years ago. Yah, REAL credible.