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#1  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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I'm slightly worried tbh.

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#2 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Oh, I'm not. They don't disappoint with Mario (I'm going to pretend Sunshine doesn't exist).

Let's see what they have up their sleeves.

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@charizard1605 said:

Oh, I'm not. They don't disappoint with Mario (I'm going to pretend Sunshine doesn't exist).

Let's see what they have up their sleeves.

I just feel Mario was the last to need drastic changes.

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@93BlackHawk93 said:
@charizard1605 said:

Oh, I'm not. They don't disappoint with Mario (I'm going to pretend Sunshine doesn't exist).

Let's see what they have up their sleeves.

I just feel Mario was the last to need drastic changes.

Mario always has drastic changes. Mario 64 to Sunshine to Galaxy to 3D World are all very different kinds of games. Miyamoto probably just means that the new Mario isn't going to be in the vein of 3D World or even Galaxy, but that Nintendo will be trying something new again entirely.

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#5 Kashiwaba
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First person view Mario with parkour and jumping on mushrooms (kinda like mirrors edge) :p

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#6 A-new-Guardian
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Change is good. Especially in Nintendo's case.

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#7  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@charizard1605: Sunshine was awesome! At least it was a little different...

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#8  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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@charizard1605 said:
@93BlackHawk93 said:
@charizard1605 said:

Oh, I'm not. They don't disappoint with Mario (I'm going to pretend Sunshine doesn't exist).

Let's see what they have up their sleeves.

I just feel Mario was the last to need drastic changes.

Mario always has drastic changes. Mario 64 to Sunshine to Galaxy to 3D World are all very different kinds of games. Miyamoto probably just means that the new Mario isn't going to be in the vein of 3D World or even Galaxy, but that Nintendo will be trying something new again entirely.

When I say "drastic changes" I mean it like a change of "essence", but yeah I'm probably just overthinking it.

Wouldn't mind a new attempt at Sunshine. ;)

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@93BlackHawk93 said:
@charizard1605 said:
@93BlackHawk93 said:
@charizard1605 said:

Oh, I'm not. They don't disappoint with Mario (I'm going to pretend Sunshine doesn't exist).

Let's see what they have up their sleeves.

I just feel Mario was the last to need drastic changes.

Mario always has drastic changes. Mario 64 to Sunshine to Galaxy to 3D World are all very different kinds of games. Miyamoto probably just means that the new Mario isn't going to be in the vein of 3D World or even Galaxy, but that Nintendo will be trying something new again entirely.

When I say "drastic changes" I mean it like a change of "essence", but yeah I'm probably just overthinking it.

Wouldn't mind a new attempt at Sunshine. ;)

I'd be fine with it, make it not suck this time.

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#10 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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Just like Sunshine and galaxy were, don't worry.

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@Chozofication said:

Just like Sunshine and galaxy were, don't worry.

And hell, 3D World (or 3D Land, really), too.

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As long as it's a 1980's cartoon rehash, I'm in.

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#13  Edited By Ghost120x
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I want a true sequel to 64. One gigantic world, all connected, no loading. Over 500 stars to collect. If you do something to one area it can effect other areas. For example, if you beat a giant boss bully in the volcano area and send it flying plugging up the active volcano which clears the flowing lava at the base to access a new area.

Dynamic weather. Rain will allow Mario to slide further and longer creating some crazy jumps. It would be glorious.

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@charizard1605 said:

Oh, I'm not. They don't disappoint with Mario (I'm going to pretend Sunshine doesn't exist).

Let's see what they have up their sleeves.

Sunshine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3D World though.

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@Sgt_Crow said:
@charizard1605 said:

Oh, I'm not. They don't disappoint with Mario (I'm going to pretend Sunshine doesn't exist).

Let's see what they have up their sleeves.

Sunshine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3D World though.

No

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#16 jg4xchamp
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I have faith in The Goat.

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@charizard1605 said:
@93BlackHawk93 said:
@charizard1605 said:

Oh, I'm not. They don't disappoint with Mario (I'm going to pretend Sunshine doesn't exist).

Let's see what they have up their sleeves.

I just feel Mario was the last to need drastic changes.

Mario always has drastic changes. Mario 64 to Sunshine to Galaxy to 3D World are all very different kinds of games. Miyamoto probably just means that the new Mario isn't going to be in the vein of 3D World or even Galaxy, but that Nintendo will be trying something new again entirely.

Yep... Mario always goes in new ventures in the platformer genre, so Miyamoto saying this is nothing new.

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@93BlackHawk93: Can't be worst then the Grand Theft Auto Mario.

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I have faith in The Goat.

But you trusted him with SFZ. :P

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#20 R4gn4r0k
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Lol, an open world Mario in the style of GTA is something I'd love to try out xD

@Kashiwaba said:

First person view Mario with parkour and jumping on mushrooms (kinda like mirrors edge) :p

This was once made as a free mod in UE3

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@93BlackHawk93 said:
@jg4xchamp said:

I have faith in The Goat.

But you trusted him with SFZ. :P

Let's pretend SFZ doesn't exist.

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#22  Edited By quatoe
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I will end up buying it. Can't go without Super Mario games

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#23 JasonOfA36
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"A new kind" is kind of a vague statement. It could allude to different things, positively or negatively.

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#24 aigis
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will he jump and collect stars?

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#25 R4gn4r0k
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@davillain- said:

@93BlackHawk93: Can't be worst then the Grand Theft Auto Mario.

That was AMAZING. I loved it when he said "It's-a me, Mario !"

Also that Nico Belic cameo xD

Have these guys made any other videos ?

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@R4gn4r0k said:

That was AMAZING. I loved it when he said "It's-a me, Mario !"

Also that Nico Belic cameo xD

Have these guys made any other videos ?

Yeah they made another one. This one features DK and his Mob of family:

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I will admit, if Nintendo ever does this type, there consoles will sell millions.

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@aigis said:

will he jump and collect stars?

He might not collect stars, he might collect shines.

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#29 MirkoS77
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I agree with Ghost120x.

Open world Mario, all one huge world in the Mushroom Kingdom. That would seriously be amazing if they did it right.

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@charizard1605 said:
@93BlackHawk93 said:
@charizard1605 said:

Oh, I'm not. They don't disappoint with Mario (I'm going to pretend Sunshine doesn't exist).

Let's see what they have up their sleeves.

I just feel Mario was the last to need drastic changes.

Mario always has drastic changes. Mario 64 to Sunshine to Galaxy to 3D World are all very different kinds of games. Miyamoto probably just means that the new Mario isn't going to be in the vein of 3D World or even Galaxy, but that Nintendo will be trying something new again entirely.

Even all the 2D Mario games have actually been very different from one another except for the 'New Super Mario Bros" series, which seems similar to one another. I dislike the 3 hidden coin collecting part of those games.

Space Marine Mario perhaps? :-)

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@Kashiwaba said:

First person view Mario with parkour and jumping on mushrooms (kinda like mirrors edge) :p

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@Kashiwaba said:

First person view Mario with parkour and jumping on mushrooms (kinda like mirrors edge) :p

who doesn't want this?!

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#33 360ru13r
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GTA mario? Where can I send all of my money, plus credit cards and bank account information. Mario is one of those game series where he ALMOST and I mean ALMOST can't do any wrong.

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@Sgt_Crow: 3D World is far superior to Sunshine. Sunshine remains the only questionably designed Mario game I've played. So much of it felt unpolished and obtuse.

I'm excited for change. It's a part of Mario's history.

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#35  Edited By aigis
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@charizard1605 said:
@aigis said:

will he jump and collect stars?

He might not collect stars, he might collect shines.

I will never see mario the same again

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This sounds awesome!

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@93BlackHawk93 said:
@jg4xchamp said:

I have faith in The Goat.

But you trusted him with SFZ. :P

Bad day at the office, Micheal Jordan didn't win every year.

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Well with what I've seen from Zelda so far...

The changes to Mario could be seriously great.

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I'd love to get a new 2d Mario that feels, looks, and sounds NOTHING like the NSMB titles.

Take it back to 2d art, give it some inspired tunes, and ditch the co-op element altogether. I'd love for it to feel just as distinct as the SMB/SMW games were in their time. Even if they went some crazy unexpected route like they did with Yoshis Island I'd be cool with that. Hell, I'd love that.

Basically just give the 2d games the same respect they give the 3d games in terms of style and creativity.

Not saying the NSMB games are bad, I enjoyed them all. But after NSMBW they started to have that assembly line feel. Completely uninspired. And while those games were enjoyable enough as one-offs, I could never bring myself to replay them. And I usually replay the **** out of 2d platformers.

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I think most people accept that Mario as a platformer is always welcome but what gets me is that he's in fuckin everything.

Nintendo football game? Mario

Nintendo fighting game? Mario

Nintendo racing game? Mario

Nintendo party game? Mario

Nintendo golf game? Mario

Nintendo tennis game? Mario

What if you don't find Mario appealing? Shouldn't they try to branch out? Shouldn't they try more to bring back some of the older characters instead of constantly going back to the same well?

Familiarity breeds contempt.

I think a Mario platform game is perfectly acceptable for every Nintendo console gen, but just the platformer.

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#41  Edited By iandizion713
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@DocSanchez: If you dont find Mario football appealing, then you play Madden football. The reason they use Mario and Kirby a lot is cause they are easy to use thanks to their design. They also have nice big worlds with lots recognizable of characters.

Kid Icarus football wont work too good i feel.

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#42  Edited By Ten_Pints
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Will they make a Mario game where he is actually a plumber?

Then they could turn it into a cheesy porn film/game.

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#43  Edited By TheCouchPotater
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@charizard1605 said:

Mario always has drastic changes. Mario 64 to Sunshine to Galaxy to 3D World are all very different kinds of games. Miyamoto probably just means that the new Mario isn't going to be in the vein of 3D World or even Galaxy, but that Nintendo will be trying something new again entirely.

Too bad if that's the case, '3D World' is my favorite 3D Mario game by a mile.

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#44  Edited By N64DD
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@charizard1605 said:
@Sgt_Crow said:
@charizard1605 said:

Oh, I'm not. They don't disappoint with Mario (I'm going to pretend Sunshine doesn't exist).

Let's see what they have up their sleeves.

Sunshine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3D World though.

No

Yesssss. 3D World is so overrated it's ridiculous.

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#45 DocSanchez
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@iandizion713: You are literally too biased for me to have any meaningful conversation with. Sorry. I have no interest.

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#46  Edited By superbuuman
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Well hope its different but good...not Sunshine though...could never get into that game. Open world-action-platform-rpg Mario?...they open up Zelda & BotW sounds great..so hopefully the same good way. :P

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@93BlackHawk93 said:
@jg4xchamp said:

I have faith in The Goat.

But you trusted him with SFZ. :P

That, and he hasn't exactly been praising Nintendo's efforts that aren't Splatoon. He's mainly been using it as a Platinum box (well, just W101 and Bayonetta 2).

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#48  Edited By superbuuman
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@PsychoLemons said:

Looks good..did you draw that? ....but no...looking at "Peach" she looks like those typical cartoon female character ..that just says "Whatevaaa!" :P

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#49  Edited By Jolt_counter119
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@Ghost120x said:

I want a true sequel to 64. One gigantic world, all connected, no loading. Over 500 stars to collect. If you do something to one area it can effect other areas. For example, if you beat a giant boss bully in the volcano area and send it flying plugging up the active volcano which clears the flowing lava at the base to access a new area.

Dynamic weather. Rain will allow Mario to slide further and longer creating some crazy jumps. It would be glorious.

Not gonna happen. Yooka-Laylee is your game my man. Banjo Tooie was like this, except for the dynamic weather part. I would like mario to stick to the Galaxy styled game, not Galaxy themed though. A mix between the linear design but with a more playground style design. I thought 3d world was a little too simple for my tastes.

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@DocSanchez said:

I think most people accept that Mario as a platformer is always welcome but what gets me is that he's in fuckin everything.

Nintendo football game? Mario

Nintendo fighting game? Mario

Nintendo racing game? Mario

Nintendo party game? Mario

Nintendo golf game? Mario

Nintendo tennis game? Mario

What if you don't find Mario appealing? Shouldn't they try to branch out? Shouldn't they try more to bring back some of the older characters instead of constantly going back to the same well?

Familiarity breeds contempt.

I think a Mario platform game is perfectly acceptable for every Nintendo console gen, but just the platformer.

Beginning with Mario Kart 8, the series has since added NON-Mario characters (Link, AC Villagers)

Also, Smash Bros isn't just Mario. It's a crossover of Nintendo in general (well, until it got all "CNReal", and I hope they don't go all MTV next). So why WOULDN'T he be there?