Shigeru Miyamoto or John Carmack who do you respect more?

Shigeru Miyamoto or John Carmack who do you respect more?

I could never choose. 2 fathers of gaming.

I respect them both equally.

They are both excellent at what they do... but Shiggy has proven himself more.

Shiggy is pretty much untouchable, he continues to push gaming forward over and over.

Miyamoto for gameplay, Carmack for gaming technology

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]They're both washed up. troll.jpgkillzonexbox

I would say given the troll.jpg that he was joking :P

Shigeru.

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]They're both washed up. troll.jpgWreckEm711

I would say given the troll.jpg that he was joking :P

I noitice lol thanks..:D:lol:

It should be 'whom do you respect more'

but anway I pick Miyamoto

Well Carmack's games are pretty uninspired. Sure Doom and Quake were fun in the 90s, but now they're pretty bland. He's a good programmer and that's as much as I would give him. So Miyamoto it is.PS2_ROCKS

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]Well Carmack's games are pretty uninspired. Sure Doom and Quake were fun in the 90s, but now they're pretty bland. He's a good programmer and that's as much as I would give him. So Miyamoto it is.kdawg88

A entire genre would not have existed without them.

Miyamoto. When Nintendo first came to him to make a game for them, he was only a young artist. He wasnt some engineer like most devs back then when the gaming industry was falling. Now look at him. I salute the father of gaming. And some of his oldest characters such as Mario and Link are well known by the masses and still live on in gaming today.

Miyamoto's games are still just as fun today as they were 25 years ago. I'll pick him over anyone.

It should be 'whom do you respect more'

but anway I pick Miyamoto

wildjango64

It's a videogame forum not a college thesis. Fyi you misspelled "anyway".

Carmack crafted and invented some of the best shooter titles of all time.

Miyamoto crafted and invented some of the best games of all time.

Miyamoto has had and continues to maintain profound offerings to video game canon and thus I respect him more. Not everyone likes shooting games or games by Carmack, but the chances of finding someone that doesn't like a single Mario or Miyamoto offering is quite rare.

Both of them. Miyamoto helped saved console gaming and got me into video games and me liking platformer games while Carmack helped made computer gaming even more popular and got me into first person shooters.

Carmack crafted and invented some of the best shooter titles of all time.

Miyamoto crafted and invented some of the best games of all time.

Miyamoto has had and continues to maintain profound offerings to video game canon and thus I respect him more. Not everyone likes shooting games or games by Carmack, but the chances of finding someone that doesn't like a single Mario or Miyamoto offering is quite rare.

starfox15

Carmack also was the first to make a engine powering traditional platforming games (smooth side scrolling) on the PC, a feat at the time that was thought to be impossible in every way.

Miyamoto's input into game industry is far greater and more respect worthy. That said, looking outside of games Carmack's intellect completely dwarfs Shiggy's

Not everyone likes shooting games or games by Carmack, but the chances of finding someone that doesn't like a single Mario or Miyamoto offering is quite rare.

starfox15

[QUOTE="kdawg88"][QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]Well Carmack's games are pretty uninspired. Sure Doom and Quake were fun in the 90s, but now they're pretty bland. He's a good programmer and that's as much as I would give him. So Miyamoto it is.Lucianu

A entire genre would not have existed without them.

Miyamoto has made great games for over 25 years and has had influence on the consoles. he wins

[QUOTE="kdawg88"][QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]Well Carmack's games are pretty uninspired. Sure Doom and Quake were fun in the 90s, but now they're pretty bland. He's a good programmer and that's as much as I would give him. So Miyamoto it is.Lucianu

A entire genre would not have existed without them.

Whos John Carmack lol?

Carmack crafted and invented some of the best shooter titles of all time.

Miyamoto crafted and invented some of the best games of all time.

Miyamoto has had and continues to maintain profound offerings to video game canon and thus I respect him more. Not everyone likes shooting games or games by Carmack, but the chances of finding someone that doesn't like a single Mario or Miyamoto offering is quite rare.

starfox15

[QUOTE="kdawg88"][QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]Well Carmack's games are pretty uninspired. Sure Doom and Quake were fun in the 90s, but now they're pretty bland. He's a good programmer and that's as much as I would give him. So Miyamoto it is.Lucianu

A entire genre would not have existed without them.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="kdawg88"] I agree with you, but you're forgetting how he, along with Id Software as a whole, accommodated the modding community of all of his games and releases the source code for all the games developed by Id Software as well as selling their engines to other developers. If it weren't for that, then quite a few very popular games and mods would not exist today. PS2_ROCKS

A entire genre would not have existed without them.

What about the Unreal series. Why would i forget about them.

Shigeru Miyamoto is to crazy for me, i have to say John Carmack even im not a fan of him. I respect Ken Levine most of all in game industry.

That's really not very true. Carmack admitted himself that if they hadn't done it, someone else would have.kdawg88

Yeah, i know. If some X important guy didn't exist, someone els would have taken he's place. What if George Washington never led the american victory over Britain in the revolutionary war?

Point is, we can assume all we want what would have happened if Carmack didn't make it, but those remain mearly assumptions..

[QUOTE="wildjango64"]

It should be 'whom do you respect more'

but anway I pick Miyamoto

Pray_to_me

It's a videogame forum not a college thesis. Fyi you misspelled "anyway".

Shiggy Baby.

Well they have two completely different jobs, so it's a little hard to compare...

Eh, John who? *checks his wiki page*

Uh... You fo'real? Why is this nobody even in the same thread as Shigeru? I assume it's only because nostalgia, how he was involved with some pixelated crappy shooters such as Doom and Wolfenstein? Are we really comparing this dude to Shigeru Miyamoto... Fo'real?

[QUOTE="kdawg88"][QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]Well Carmack's games are pretty uninspired. Sure Doom and Quake were fun in the 90s, but now they're pretty bland. He's a good programmer and that's as much as I would give him. So Miyamoto it is.Lucianu

A entire genre would not have existed without them.

Dude... you dont think someone else would have ever figured out how to make a game in first person and put a gun in the person's hands? REALLY?

For the time it was groundbreaking, and they were the first.... but dont try and pretend that FPS wouldnt exist if they hadnt done it first.

I actually think there we're fps before wolfinstien too.

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

Carmack crafted and invented some of the best shooter titles of all time.

Miyamoto crafted and invented some of the best games of all time.

Miyamoto has had and continues to maintain profound offerings to video game canon and thus I respect him more. Not everyone likes shooting games or games by Carmack, but the chances of finding someone that doesn't like a single Mario or Miyamoto offering is quite rare.

wayne_kar

[QUOTE="kdawg88"]That's really not very true. Carmack admitted himself that if they hadn't done it, someone else would have.Lucianu

Yeah, i know. If some X important guy didn't exist, someone els would have taken he's place. What if George Washington never led the american victory over Britain in the revolutionary war?

Point is, we can assume all we want what would have happened if Carmack didn't make it, but those remain mearly assumptions..

I was never a big fan of any of Carmack's games... but I did enjoy having a nintendo and playing as some of the most iconic game characters in video gaming, so I guess I'd go with Miyamoto. Donkey Kong 1 & 2 and some Mario titles ( Yoshi's Island, All-stars, etc. ) were incredibly fun to play at that time.

They probably still are.

Eh, John who? *checks his wiki page*

Uh... You fo'real? Why is this nobody even in the same thread as Shigeru? I assume it's only because nostalgia, how he was involved with some pixelated crappy shooters such as Doom and Wolfenstein? Are we really comparing this dude to Shigeru Miyamoto... Fo'real?

xWoW_Rougex

Dude... you dont think someone else would have ever figured out how to make a game in first person and put a gun in the person's hands? REALLY?

For the time it was groundbreaking, and they were the first.... but dont try and pretend that FPS wouldnt exist if they hadnt done it first.

moistsandwich

Whatever. You think your way, i'll think my way. You don't have to agree. Who gives a *** either way, man..

Point is, they did it, they made it, they exist.