Behold... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ872cTYj44
All in game. :)
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The game is technically impressive in that there's literraly THOUSANDS of troops on the field all having these little battles with each other. This is a lot more impressive, TEHCNICALLY, than anything on Crysis 2.
But purely from a visual quality, graphics on an FPS like Crysis 2 are a lot better.
They should be. Crysis 2 isn't rendering whole armies, just a few dozen mobs tops.
I don't think a video card capable of rendering tens of thousands of troops at the quality of Crysis 2 exists yet.
The game is technically impressive in that there's literraly THOUSANDS of troops on the field all having these little battles with each other. This is a lot more impressive, TEHCNICALLY, than anything on Crysis 2.
But purely from a visual quality, graphics on an FPS like Crysis 2 are a lot better.
They should be. Crysis 2 isn't rendering whole armies, just a few dozen mobs tops.
I don't think a video card capable of rendering tens of thousands of troops at the quality of Crysis 2 exists yet.
Kinthalis
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its not really that impressive, what would have been impressive if there was phyiscis on the grass in the field they were running through with some god rays behind them, some better looking models since they don't seem to have many polys, its not like the first game to have tons of things on screen at onceThe game is technically impressive in that there's literraly THOUSANDS of troops on the field all having these little battles with each other. This is a lot more impressive, TEHCNICALLY, than anything on Crysis 2.
But purely from a visual quality, graphics on an FPS like Crysis 2 are a lot better.
They should be. Crysis 2 isn't rendering whole armies, just a few dozen mobs tops.
I don't think a video card capable of rendering tens of thousands of troops at the quality of Crysis 2 exists yet.
Kinthalis
still doesnt look as good uncharted 2, killzone 3 and life itself.Dibdibdobdobo
Not sure if serious....
[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]its not really that impressive, what would have been impressive if there was phyiscis on the grass in the field they were running through with some god rays behind them, some better looking models since they don't seem to have many polys, its not like the first game to have tons of things on screen at once Just out of curiosity what other games have armies the size of shogun 2? With the detail, different between units too, with the animations and map sizes as well as effects that shogun 2 has.The game is technically impressive in that there's literraly THOUSANDS of troops on the field all having these little battles with each other. This is a lot more impressive, TEHCNICALLY, than anything on Crysis 2.
But purely from a visual quality, graphics on an FPS like Crysis 2 are a lot better.
They should be. Crysis 2 isn't rendering whole armies, just a few dozen mobs tops.
I don't think a video card capable of rendering tens of thousands of troops at the quality of Crysis 2 exists yet.
savagetwinkie
[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]its not really that impressive, what would have been impressive if there was phyiscis on the grass in the field they were running through with some god rays behind them, some better looking models since they don't seem to have many polys, its not like the first game to have tons of things on screen at once Just out of curiosity what other games have armies the size of shogun 2? With the detail, different between units too, with the animations and map sizes as well as effects that shogun 2 has. To be honest, the AI in shogun 2 SUCKS. When you operate a full stack and an intense battle goes on, it can take over 30s for any command to register.The game is technically impressive in that there's literraly THOUSANDS of troops on the field all having these little battles with each other. This is a lot more impressive, TEHCNICALLY, than anything on Crysis 2.
But purely from a visual quality, graphics on an FPS like Crysis 2 are a lot better.
They should be. Crysis 2 isn't rendering whole armies, just a few dozen mobs tops.
I don't think a video card capable of rendering tens of thousands of troops at the quality of Crysis 2 exists yet.
Frozzik
still doesnt look as good uncharted 2, killzone 3 and life itself.Dibdibdobdobo
You are probably not serious but here it goes: There are like 50 PC games that look better than anything on PS3. Even Crysis 2 on consoles...i mean, on 360 :twisted: :P
On topic, i agree with TC. Shogun 2 looks simply incredible, especially considering it´s scale and amount of units!
Ah consolites dismissing rts games, can your games render huge terrain with thousands of soldiers fighting each other? If small scale but great gfx is all that matters on system wars there are plenty of benchmarks that just render the most awesome looking fuzzy cube.
Shogun 2 have amazing graphics and huge scale and at the same time can maintain very good fps. Defiantly the most technically impressive game out there.
[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]still doesnt look as good uncharted 2, killzone 3 and life itself.PAL360
You are probably not serious but here it goes: There are like 50 PC games that look better than anything on PS3. Even Crysis 2 on consoles...i mean, on 360 :twisted: :P
On topic, i agree with TC. Shogun 2 looks simply incredible, especially considering it´s scale and amount of units!
"While the engine analysis based on like-for-like footage suggests an advantage to the Xbox 360 version of Crysis 2, as we can see in these extensive tests, performance can be very, very variable and the small variations in frame-rate we see previously give way to some much bigger differences, depending on the level of action on-screen. The unavoidable conclusion we came to is that when frame-rate does crash in those affected areas, it's actually Crysis 2 on PS3 that holds up better."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-crysis2-face-off?page=2
Really now, I'd say they're equivalent to eachother. Besides, anything on PC >> PS3/360
On topic,
Crysis looks a billion times better than this crap.
Technical graphics should encompass visuals and scale, a fighter looking better than a 60 hour RPG for example should not make the fighter automaticlally superior. Therefore Shogun 2 is king, at least for me. :)110million
Yah.. but at what point does the scale of it not matter anymore? Oblivion is better than Crysis?
If you have to consider scale, and I'm not saying you dont have to, then Just Cause 2 >>>>>>> Crysis
The game is technically impressive in that there's literraly THOUSANDS of troops on the field all having these little battles with each other. This is a lot more impressive, TEHCNICALLY, than anything on Crysis 2.
But purely from a visual quality, graphics on an FPS like Crysis 2 are a lot better.
They should be. Crysis 2 isn't rendering whole armies, just a few dozen mobs tops.
I don't think a video card capable of rendering tens of thousands of troops at the quality of Crysis 2 exists yet.
Kinthalis
The thread title is about graphics king, not army king. Way to take something out of context and pass it off as being within context. And you know why the video is in slow motion? Because if it wasn't, the framerate drop will be noticeable. Shogun 2 isn't taxing on the GPU. It's taxing on CPU, rendering independant movements of hundreds of soldiers. If you simply play around with the graphic setting, you'll notice that lower quality of anything doesn't do much (or as much as you'd hope) to improve the framerate, implying again that the GPU isn't likely the bottleneck. Hence, we shouldn't be talking about graphics king when the CPU is more of a concern than the GPU.
[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]
The game is technically impressive in that there's literraly THOUSANDS of troops on the field all having these little battles with each other. This is a lot more impressive, TEHCNICALLY, than anything on Crysis 2.
But purely from a visual quality, graphics on an FPS like Crysis 2 are a lot better.
They should be. Crysis 2 isn't rendering whole armies, just a few dozen mobs tops.
I don't think a video card capable of rendering tens of thousands of troops at the quality of Crysis 2 exists yet.
jhcho2
The thread title is about graphics king, not army king. Way to take something out of context and pass it off as being within context. And you know why the video is in slow motion? Because if it wasn't, the framerate drop will be noticeable. Shogun 2 isn't taxing on the GPU. It's taxing on CPU, rendering independant movements of hundreds of soldiers. If you simply play around with the graphic setting, you'll notice that lower quality of anything doesn't do much (or as much as you'd hope) to improve the framerate, implying again that the GPU isn't likely the bottleneck. Hence, we shouldn't be talking about graphics king when the CPU is more of a concern than the GPU.
What? Did I understand that right? Because the game uses lots of CPU power it shouldn't be considered for graphics king? WUT? Rofl. My system is on my sig, as of yet I have had 0 issues with performance. I run everything on ultra and high ( depending on which is the highest)[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]still doesnt look as good uncharted 2, killzone 3 and life itself.PAL360
You are probably not serious but here it goes: There are like 50 PC games that look better than anything on PS3. Even Crysis 2 on consoles...i mean, on 360 :twisted: :P
On topic, i agree with TC. Shogun 2 looks simply incredible, especially considering it´s scale and amount of units!
Is this a face in which you would take serious.
Well......
Is it???
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]still doesnt look as good uncharted 2, killzone 3 and life itself.Dibdibdobdobo
You are probably not serious but here it goes: There are like 50 PC games that look better than anything on PS3. Even Crysis 2 on consoles...i mean, on 360 :twisted: :P
On topic, i agree with TC. Shogun 2 looks simply incredible, especially considering it´s scale and amount of units!
Is this a face in which you would take serious.
Well......
Is it???
Yes, yes of course :P
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]still doesnt look as good uncharted 2, killzone 3 and life itself.Dibdibdobdobo
You are probably not serious but here it goes: There are like 50 PC games that look better than anything on PS3. Even Crysis 2 on consoles...i mean, on 360 :twisted: :P
On topic, i agree with TC. Shogun 2 looks simply incredible, especially considering it´s scale and amount of units!
Is this a face in which you would take serious.
Well......
Is it???
No I'd call the police, I ****ing hate clowns. KILL IT WITH FIRE![QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]
[QUOTE="PAL360"]
You are probably not serious but here it goes: There are like 50 PC games that look better than anything on PS3. Even Crysis 2 on consoles...i mean, on 360 :twisted: :P
On topic, i agree with TC. Shogun 2 looks simply incredible, especially considering it´s scale and amount of units!
blue_hazy_basic
Is this a face in which you would take serious.
Well......
Is it???
No I'd call the police, I ****ing hate clowns. KILL IT WITH FIRE!It's a technical marvel, consoles would melt!ToScA-You mean PS3 would melt. The 360 melts already. :lol:
A lot of people think napoleon total war looks better.
topgunmv
After playing both, I personally think Shogun 2 looks better. Although I'm slightly biased because I love Samurais. :P
Technically amazing and visually great, but not AMAZING. Still a beautiful game but Crysis has it beat just from a visual stand pointdeadesaThe visuals in S2 impress me more than Crysis. From technical standpoint not artistic.
To be honest, the AI in shogun 2 SUCKS. When you operate a full stack and an intense battle goes on, it can take over 30s for any command to register.DynafromThat is not an AI issue. You have to understand that during those intense battles, the CPU has to calculate all information regarding each unit (yours and the enemies) and also still has to be able to handle parts of the core engine.
In games like these, any command will start to take a long time to register once you have a large amount of units since the CPU can only handly so many commands during each cycle the program is running.
The faster your processor, the better a game of this genre will run and also the user commands will register faster. That said, even the best of processors can be brought down to their knees the more intense the battles get.
Sorry but Crysis looked way better then the game. I mean it looks ok but come on, with the game that requires you to use a Intel Core i5 and with ether a ATI HD 5000 and 6000 or the Nvidia GT 240 series, with 20 GB of free hard disk space, and 4 GB of ram, I would think that the game would blow Crysis away but no with a game with that much of a high requirement it doesn't really impress me that much.
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