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#1 russdmoore
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So I watched the presentation and I will have to say Sony really is focusing on the shooters this time around. I would say that I would put the ps3 to take the crown as the shooter console. With Resistance 2, KZ2, SOCOM, MGS4, and MAG which are very hyped games to boot.

I always find it funny how people shoe horn the 360 into that stereotype. Do not get me wrong I enjoy both the 360 and the PS3 and I also enjoy shooters. This year for the 360 there are how many shooters that are hyped. I could be wrong but I would say 1 Gears of War 2.

So I would say that the PS3 has taken the crown from the 360 as the shooter console. Well in my opinion that is.

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#2 Bigboi500
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I agree. PS3 is going to be the place to go for shooters and the 360 is where to go for JRPG's
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#4 DMC2677
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Like M$ didn't start it off with Halo and GOW?!? But seriously, every decade has it's "it genre" and right now it's shooters (Halo3, GeOW1 and 2, Battlefield, Half, Life, KZ 1 and 2, R1 and 2, MAG, UT3, etc...). Face it, if you want the masses to go on-line, go with what's hot. Fighters are making a slight comeback though... And btw, MGS4 is not a shooter, it just has the optional FPS view, that's all. Game on guys! :-)
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#5 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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I agree. PS3 is going to be the place to go for shooters and the 360 is where to go for JRPG'sBigboi500
Nonsense the 360 has just as many shooters as the PS3, its just that the PS3 is shooter heavy compared to the more balanced 360 library. Ironic that the PS3 has become teh shoota console after the cows screaming it for so long about the 360.
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#6 Stonin
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It does make me smirk when I think of all the fanboys who bleated on and on about MS only having shooters...and then we get a Playstation with the same level of diversity as the dialogue in Oblivion.
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#7 Stonin
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I agree. PS3 is going to be the place to go for shooters and the 360 is where to go for JRPG'sBigboi500

You say that but the pad sucks compared to the competition (esp when it comes to shooters).

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#8 ReverseCycology
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Here's the difference the 360 have AAA caliber shooters while the PS3 have medicore shooters and sequels to those mediocre shooters.

The 360 is just in a great position to branch out even more and get more rpg games and get more casual games.

I wouldn't be surprise if Sony shows more casual games and rpg games next E3. They're always behind.

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]I agree. PS3 is going to be the place to go for shooters and the 360 is where to go for JRPG'sblue_hazy_basic
Nonsense the 360 has just as many shooters as the PS3, its just that the PS3 is shooter heavy compared to the more balanced 360 library. Ironic that the PS3 has become teh shoota console after the cows screaming it for so long about the 360.

PS3 has a balanced library. Look at the games for 2008 so far. Hot Shots Golf, MLB08 The Show, Singstar, MGS4, and GranTursimo. That looks pretty balanced to me.

PS3 also has the best action games with Uncharted and Heavenly Sword

PS3 also has some unique titles like Eye of Judgement, Time Crisis4, upcoming Little Big Planet and Buzz

It seems to me Sony is hyping its shooters because thats what sells, but they do have a good diverse library, they do need more RPGs though.

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...Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't a shooter. Saying that just shows you don't know what you're talking about.Slashkice

Depends on how you play it. I played it as a shooter by just spending all my Drebin points on heavy weaponary.

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#11 fjburgos
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Yea the now thing are turned to the oposites, sony was the RPG king and microsoft was the Shooter king now is the opossite. wow they are a lot of fustrated xbox gamers that bought the xbox for shooters, and a lot of fustrated ps3 owners that bought the consoles for RPG.
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#12 fjburgos
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Here's the difference the 360 have AAA caliber shooters while the PS3 have medicore shooters and sequels to those mediocre shooters.

The 360 is just in a great position to branch out even more and get more rpg games and get more casual games.

I wouldn't be surprise if Sony shows more casual games and rpg games next E3. They're always behind.

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Only Halo was the AAA shooter for the 360 what more all the other you found it on the ps3, and odn't tell me Call of Duty 2 or Ghost Recom thiose old as hell games that nobody plays, and if the ps3 would have come earlier you would found the those two games too. the others is the most overrated game that had good reviews bacause he was aintrodutory game for next gen.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]I agree. PS3 is going to be the place to go for shooters and the 360 is where to go for JRPG'sEmperorSupreme

Nonsense the 360 has just as many shooters as the PS3, its just that the PS3 is shooter heavy compared to the more balanced 360 library. Ironic that the PS3 has become teh shoota console after the cows screaming it for so long about the 360.

PS3 has a balanced library. Look at the games for 2008 so far. Hot Shots Golf, MLB08 The Show, Singstar, MGS4, and GranTursimo. That looks pretty balanced to me.

PS3 also has the best action games with Uncharted and Heavenly Sword

PS3 also has some unique titles like Eye of Judgement, Time Crisis4, upcoming Little Big Planet and Buzz

It seems to me Sony is hyping its shooters because thats what sells, but they do have a good diverse library, they do need more RPGs though.

I didn't say it was a shooter only console, only that it is shooter heavy. After 2 yrs of cows crying it at the 360 and ignoring all the other games, its somewhat ironic.

Can I also say that the ones who said that used to call ME and bioshock shooters (because they had guns :? ) so thats why you're seeing lems lump games like MGS and Uncharted in with straight forward shooters in reply to some of the other posts in this thread.

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#14 donwoogie
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After this E3, it seems MS is trying to bite into Nintendo's market and Sony is trying to bite into MS' market. Nintendo on the other hand, is flapping their arms about and wailing and doing weird stuff in hopes of maintaining their currently incredible sales.
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Like M$ didn't start it off with Halo and GOW?!? But seriously, every decade has it's "it genre" and right now it's shooters (Halo3, GeOW1 and 2, Battlefield, Half, Life, KZ 1 and 2, R1 and 2, MAG, UT3, etc...). Face it, if you want the masses to go on-line, go with what's hot. Fighters are making a slight comeback though... And btw, MGS4 is not a shooter, it just has the optional FPS view, that's all. Game on guys! :-)DMC2677

What make MSG4 not a shooter? Stealth? Crysis has a stealth part of the game. You say MSG4 has a optional FPS view. Gears does not have that option so it must not be a shooter. You have hand to hand combat (CQC) Gears has hand to hand as does Crysis even Halo 3 does. I am just pointing out that you can say one thing and justify what you are saying very easily.

Am I saying that the PS3 is the new shooter console not really, just attempting to prove a point. Yes the PS3 has a very shooter heavy lineup currently and that is all it took for the 360 to get this stereotype.

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#16 vlens
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Halo 3 - 9.5

gears of war - 9.6

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter - 9.2

perfect dark zero - 9

huxly

gears of war 2

new rumored shooter from Bungie ( would be HUGE )

So, xbox 360 has 4 AAA shooters with gears 2 most likely to be AAA also...

I think it still holds the title of shooterconsole!

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Tbh all that really matters to me is superior version of Orange Box and Halo 3, my top 2 favourite games ever.
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#18 Vyse_The_Daring
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Halo 3 - 9.5

gears of war - 9.6

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter - 9.2

perfect dark zero - 9

huxly

gears of war 2

new rumored shooter from Bungie ( would be HUGE )

So, xbox 360 has 4 AAA shooters with gears 2 most likely to be AAA also...

I think it still holds the title of shooterconsole!

vlens

So you're saying the PS3 has a lot, but the quality just isn't on par with the 360's shooters.

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#19 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Here's the difference the 360 have AAA caliber shooters while the PS3 have medicore shooters and sequels to those mediocre shooters.

The 360 is just in a great position to branch out even more and get more rpg games and get more casual games.

I wouldn't be surprise if Sony shows more casual games and rpg games next E3. They're always behind.

fjburgos

Only Halo was the AAA shooter for the 360 what more all the other you found it on the ps3, and odn't tell me Call of Duty 2 or Ghost Recom thiose old as hell games that nobody plays, and if the ps3 would have come earlier you would found the those two games too. the others is the most overrated game that had good reviews bacause he was aintrodutory game for next gen.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. The fact is that the PS3 didn't come out the same time, it actually even got delayed. And where have you been, didn't you know that the PS3 is hard to develope for.

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#20 Gamerman12362
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360

- Halo

- Gears

for some reason I think both of these are better than any game you listed.

But yea, I'd say that pretty much the main focus for the ps3 is shooters, they just don't do them as good as MS.

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#21 Hitman533
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PS3 has more exclusives so they can have as many shooters as they want to sattisfy consumers because at the end sonys lineup is the most diverse. Unlike MS first 3 years were all about shooters and now they try to fix their mistake buying square enix for some RPGs but its too late now.
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#22 LagSwitch
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MGS4 is a shooter. You dont have to play stealth. You can just shoot your way through.

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...Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't a shooter. Saying that just shows you don't know what you're talking about.Slashkice

Yes it is.

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Halo 3 - 9.5

gears of war - 9.6

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter - 9.2

perfect dark zero - 9

huxly

gears of war 2

new rumored shooter from Bungie ( would be HUGE )

So, xbox 360 has 4 AAA shooters with gears 2 most likely to be AAA also...

I think it still holds the title of shooterconsole!

vlens
Throw in CoD4 and Shadowrun and I'll definately say that MS was best when it comes to Console Shooters this Gen. Would say OB but the only game I really enjoyed was Portal. Not really a shooter.
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#25 Vyse_The_Daring
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PS3 has more exclusives so they can have as many shooters as they want to sattisfy consumers because at the end sonys lineup is the most diverse. Unlike MS first 3 years were all about shooters and now they try to fix their mistake buying square enix for some RPGs but its too late now.Hitman533

And multiplats don't satisfy the consumer outside of System Wars? Way to twist reality in Sony's favour. :roll:

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#26 Tykain
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Ps3 is definitely becoming the shooters console, sadly (For me at least, i don't like shooters all that much) I think Sony is trying too hard to get a FPS that can compete with Halo, and forgetting a bit the other genres while they do. In the end they MIGHT get their FPS that is as good as Halo if not better. but they will have lost more than they will win if that means letting M$ beat them in all other genres.
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The 360 has almost three years worth of games so obviously it will be slightly more diverse but remember its biggest games have GEOW, Halo, Bioshock (yes its a shooter, look at IGN's genre), COD4, PDZ, etc. Now is it just a shooter console, no of course not but its first couple years definatly cattered to that.

The PS3s bigger hits have been Resistance, MGS4, HS, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, GTP, COD4, etc.. alot more diverse. It also has a new Ratchet game, LBP, Valkrie chronicles (probably spelled wrong), GOW 3, etc.. in E3 so its far from just a shooter console.

Its like someone already posted this gen. is heavy on the online capabilities and the best kind of games to play online and get a ton of quick sales are FPS. There is just no two ways about it. It shows in the PS3 and 360. I still see alot more diversity coming from Sonys 1st party dev companies then MS's.

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...Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't a shooter. Saying that just shows you don't know what you're talking about.Slashkice

you can play through the whole game guns blazing. ur in denial.

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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]...Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't a shooter. Saying that just shows you don't know what you're talking about.-GhostMLD-

you can play through the whole game guns blazing. ur in denial.

You wont get far, "guns blazing" on harder difficulty. Its all up to the player, if I kill everyone with a knife does that make it a hack n slash, thats where your logic leads. Its a stealth action game. Not a shooter.

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]...Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't a shooter. Saying that just shows you don't know what you're talking about.Slashkice

you can play through the whole game guns blazing. ur in denial.

You wont get far, "guns blazing" on harder difficulty. Its all up to the player, if I kill everyone with a knife does that make it a hack n slash, thats where your logic leads. Its a stealth action game. Not a shooter.

Heh, next we'll hear it's a mecha game.

But anyways, you hit the nail on the head. There's no point in arguing this when the front of the game box proves people wrong.

What makes a shooter a shooter? Guns, FPS view? I would like to know what your definition is.

I know the MSG4 box says Tactical Espionage Action. So what make this different than lets say Crysis? I can in crysis; sneak around in stealth, switch to strength and duke it out with someone and run and gun to my heart content. How is this different than MSG4? I guess I can not get the "street fighter" type of fight like you get in the end of MSG4. Does that make the difference?

When I played MSG4 the first time I got the Bull reward. Meaning I perty much rolled everyone. So is this not a shooter because it says so on the box?