Should Blizzard make Diablo III exclusive?

There are two perspectives that you can look at the situation. My commentary will appear in RED!!! :P

1. The perspective of loyalty to their PC community which they have built over the past several years. Making this exclusive to them will boost PC sale in general (respectively in terms of fanbase/expanding pc gamers...meaning more people could try out other games blizzard will be making (Starcraft II, WoW...etc)).This is very dumb. If Blizzard was my company...why the fack would I not make this availiable to PS3, 360, PC, Wii...and DS. No im not shatting you. Imagine the dough that would roll in. The only forseeable danger is that A. People might think it is too availiable (if that makes any sense). B. Time. Even though DIII is not the most technically impressive piece of art...it takes time and money to port to all other consoles.

2. Money, money, money, moooooooney....MOOOOONNNNNNAAAAAAAAYY!!! Blizzard makesa crap load as it is from WoW, but imagine if they make DIII availiable to just about everyone. The AAA is there, the people wanting to play is there, the MOOOONAY is there. Making this decision to make this sucker Meagaplatform (Meaning availiable for all of the most important systems on the market. My word....so don't you use it....jk everyone can use it...(c)...too late).I really like this perspective. Its kinda like saying this: "Guys...would youy like to make a couple of million dollars...?" or "Guys, how would you like to make half a billion dollars...?". Its a win win win situation. People get to play DIII, Blizzard makes a crap load of money, and the gaming industry expands once more :) . The only negative will be the winey Hermits saying....waa, waaaa.....DIII is naught exkloosive :(. My respose to them: "CALL THE WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE".

Does it really matter? No. the most popular version with the most people would be on the pc, and no one plays it for the single player. so buying it for a console wouldn't make much sense, especially since almost any computer is bound to be able to run it.

Blizzard won't be loosing much money if any by going PC-only. You just need to take a look at the long Diablo3 thread , most of older console players played Blizzard games on PC. They're so low on hardware requirements that any modern PC can play then.

So it's not like other games when you're loosing console sales, D3 is so big that most of console players interested in the game will buy it for PC/Mac to play on their laptops/desktops

my god...it's only on the pc...get over it.

Chances are your computer can play it, why risk moving it to consoles?

As long as the quality is not compromised.. i dont care if they port it to anywhere else.

If D3 requires a low minimum requirement, i dont see it affecting the quality (controls aside) if they transferred it into consoles.

my god...it's only on the pc...get over it.

Chances are your computer can play it, why risk moving it to consoles?

ice144

uhhh..why not?

Just asking the reason.

the diablo series has been one of the best online RPGs to date. infact, d3 is gonna be so huge that it will draw ppl from consoles to play on their comps. besides, who would want to manage all those servers and gimping the gameplay for the sake of the consoles. if u want the full diablo experience, the only place you can find it is on the pc. hope theres no suscription to play!!!

Why port it to consoles when there already is a large enough PC/MAC community to make hoards of dollars off of?foxhound_fox

True. Blizzard knows that PC gamers will be angered if this gets dumbed down for consoles, which will destroy quality. Oh, and that argument "But you need a $5000 PC just to play it" doesn't apply here. Diablo 3 is not Crysis. Blizzard always makes non-demanding games.

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uhhh..why not?

Just asking the reason.nitekids2004

makes more sense financialy to use D3 to drag console gamers into battle.net and other Blizz games than to just release it on consoles, where it could cannibalize PC sales, hurt Blizzard's reputation of excellency, consume valuable resources from other 4 Blizzard projects and all that for the little additonal money the consoles could bring? Doesn't make much sense.

[QUOTE="ice144"]

my god...it's only on the pc...get over it.

Chances are your computer can play it, why risk moving it to consoles?

nitekids2004

uhhh..why not?

Just asking the reason.

Putting Diablo 3 on consoles means that the game has to be dumbed down to be aplyable on gamepads. If you have ever played Diablo 2 or Titan Quest, you will see excatly how hard it would be due to the fast cursor movements and accuracy. As somebody who has played Diablo 2 for like 200 hours in total, I can tell you that there is NO WAY Diablo 2 could be playable on gamepads UNLESS the game is dumbed down and has features removed.

[QUOTE="ice144"]

my god...it's only on the pc...get over it.

Chances are your computer can play it, why risk moving it to consoles?

nitekids2004

uhhh..why not?

Just asking the reason.

Battlenet implementation. Who knows how it would work, if it did end up on the consoles I'd see it resembling what valve did with the orange box. Also:

*looks at elder scrolls, fallout, call of duty, etc.*

^^^^Let's not let that happen to D3 please. ANY game but that. Not saying the consolized games were bad, but for some reason devs seem to take an entirely different approach when making games for consoles, an approach not all(including me) would be happy with.

Also, even though diablo has been on a console before, I just can't imagine seeing it on one right now without it losing a ton of finesse.

[QUOTE="ice144"]

my god...it's only on the pc...get over it.

Chances are your computer can play it, why risk moving it to consoles?

nitekids2004

uhhh..why not?

Just asking the reason.

They are an incredibly meticulous company. Porting it to consoles would mean another year in the making, or worse.

Besides, porting it to consoles would definitely mean getting rid of some features, especially B.Net related. This comes naturally with porting games to different systems, the new system may or may not be ready for everything the non-ported game would feature.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"][

uhhh..why not?

Just asking the reason.AdrianWerner

makes more sense financialy to use D3 to drag console gamers into battle.net and other Blizz games than to just release it on consoles, where it could cannibalize PC sales, hurt Blizzard's reputation of excellency, consume valuable resources from other 4 Blizzard projects and all that for the little additonal money the consoles could bring? Doesn't make much sense.

IMO, its not just a "little" additional money. PC and Consoles have somewhat different target markets so we're talking about millions of sales (just taking a wild guess). And they did it once with Diablo already right? I dont see how that particular incident affected Blizzard in a big way (people still love them till now).

In fact, more people (including me) are angry with the casualization of Warcraft (we need W4 pls) than the Diablo port incident.

If its profitable, i dont see why Blizzard would not want to port it tbh.

I bet EPIC GAMES thought the same with UT3, but look how epic that failure was.

Fact is diablo wouldnt be the same if it was multiplatform, and wouldnt sell as much.

Hmmm. Ironically it sounds like you're the crybaby who is desperately wishing Diablo III on the console.

Blizzard won't be loosing much money if any by going PC-only. You just need to take a look at the long Diablo3 thread , most of older console players played Blizzard games on PC. They're so low on hardware requirements that any modern PC can play then.

So it's not like other games when you're loosing console sales, D3 is so big that most of console players interested in the game will buy it for PC/Mac to play on their laptops/desktops

AdrianWerner

IMO, its not just a "little" additional money. PC and Consoles have somewhat different target markets so we're talking about millions of sales (just taking a wild guess).

nitekids2004

Most of potential Diablo3 console customers if faced with the game never apearing on their console will just buy the PC version, just like they did with Diablo2

And really...when was the last time a port from PC to consoles made by hired 3rd party dev didn't turn out to be underwhelming?

Why port it to consoles when there already is a large enough PC/MAC community to make hoards of dollars off of?foxhound_fox

To make more money? Isn't that why developers make games? Everyone knows games sell better on consoles vs PC.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"][

uhhh..why not?

Just asking the reason.nitekids2004

makes more sense financialy to use D3 to drag console gamers into battle.net and other Blizz games than to just release it on consoles, where it could cannibalize PC sales, hurt Blizzard's reputation of excellency, consume valuable resources from other 4 Blizzard projects and all that for the little additonal money the consoles could bring? Doesn't make much sense.

IMO, its not just a "little" additional money. PC and Consoles have somewhat different target markets so we're talking about millions of sales (just taking a wild guess). And they did it once with Diablo already right? I dont see how that particular incident affected Blizzard in a big way (people still love them till now).

In fact, more people (including me) are angry with the casualization of Warcraft (we need W4 pls) than the Diablo port incident.

If its profitable, i dont see why Blizzard would not want to port it tbh.

Bolded for emphasis.

If you're a pc dev, and you know consoles have a different playerbase, what will you do to attract sales to that playerbase? Make a game which that playerbase would like. This is called consolization, something that definately should not happen to the diablo series.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Why port it to consoles when there already is a large enough PC/MAC community to make hoards of dollars off of?-Renegade

To make more money? Isn't that why developers make games? Everyone knows games sell better on consoles vs PC.

So where did valve make the 75% of its sales from? Thats right... PC Version. ( Orange Box )

Not all games sell better on consoles, this is a myth. only casual trash like CoD4. (in terms of multiplatform games )

Everyone knows games sell better on consoles vs PC.

-Renegade

But this is Blizzard game, even combined PS3 and 360 sales wouldn't propably reach even half of what PC version will sell

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

IMO, its not just a "little" additional money. PC and Consoles have somewhat different target markets so we're talking about millions of sales (just taking a wild guess).

AdrianWerner

Most of potential Diablo3 console customers if faced with the game never apearing on their console will just buy the PC version.

Im sure there are millions of gamers who just started in the xbox generation and probably havent heard or played diablo. With the current popularity of WRPG games in consoles, it may be an opportunity for Blizzard to tap said audience (MMORPGs will probably flood to consoles next gen - im predicting).

Sales-wise i dont think Blizzard would have any problem (this is all specualtion of course!)

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"][

uhhh..why not?

Just asking the reason.ice144

makes more sense financialy to use D3 to drag console gamers into battle.net and other Blizz games than to just release it on consoles, where it could cannibalize PC sales, hurt Blizzard's reputation of excellency, consume valuable resources from other 4 Blizzard projects and all that for the little additonal money the consoles could bring? Doesn't make much sense.

IMO, its not just a "little" additional money. PC and Consoles have somewhat different target markets so we're talking about millions of sales (just taking a wild guess). And they did it once with Diablo already right? I dont see how that particular incident affected Blizzard in a big way (people still love them till now).

In fact, more people (including me) are angry with the casualization of Warcraft (we need W4 pls) than the Diablo port incident.

If its profitable, i dont see why Blizzard would not want to port it tbh.

Bolded for emphasis.

If you're a pc dev, and you know consoles have a different playerbase, what will you do to attract sales to that playerbase? Make a game which that playerbase would like. This is called consolization, something that definately should not happen to the diablo series.

in a player's persepective - i agree consolization is bad.

but the question here is directed to Blizzard.

Diablo without M/KB? No way.

I guess the wii could with it's iR pointer, but then your sacrificing online, which is an even bigger no no with a game like Diablo.

Keep it on the PC.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Everyone knows games sell better on consoles vs PC.

AdrianWerner

But this is Blizzard game, even combined PS3 and 360 sales wouldn't propably reach even half of what PC version will sell

Yes - but this is a window of opportunity for Blizzard.

Shooters and Wrpgs are the craze on consoles right now. What better way for them to target said market?

Think of it this way:

Diablo fans own a PC. Diablo fans will buy it for PC. If you're interested in the game, you're already gunna buy it. The game will have low enough requirements so that you don't need a new PC. So they would not make alot of money by releasing it for 360 and PS3, since the people who would be buying it for PS3/360 are going to buy it for PC anyways.

If its profitable, i dont see why Blizzard would not want to port it tbh.

nitekids2004

Quality comes before raw profit in Blizzard's book. Blizzard is not EA.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

If its profitable, i dont see why Blizzard would not want to port it tbh.

PandaBear86

Quality comes before raw profit in Blizzard's book. Blizzard is not EA.

*looks at WoW*

*looks at Diablo and Starcraft port*

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

If its profitable, i dont see why Blizzard would not want to port it tbh.

nitekids2004

Quality comes before raw profit in Blizzard's book. Blizzard is not EA.

*looks at WoW*

*looks at Diablo and Starcraft port*

The ports were trully bad(64 version) but still wow is good and the updates they add such as sunwell add a decent amount of new things to do.

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

If its profitable, i dont see why Blizzard would not want to port it tbh.

nitekids2004

Quality comes before raw profit in Blizzard's book. Blizzard is not EA.

*looks at WoW*

*looks at Diablo and Starcraft port*

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"][QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

If its profitable, i dont see why Blizzard would not want to port it tbh.

soiheardyoulike

Quality comes before raw profit in Blizzard's book. Blizzard is not EA.

*looks at WoW*

*looks at Diablo and Starcraft port*

The ports were trully bad(64 version) but still wow is good and the updates they add such as sunwell add a decent amount of new things to do.

WoW is good but its not the sequel fans are looking for.

There are two perspectives that you can look at the situation. My commentary will appear in RED!!! :P

1. The perspective of loyalty to their PC community which they have built over the past several years. Making this exclusive to them will boost PC sale in general (respectively in terms of fanbase/expanding pc gamers...meaning more people could try out other games blizzard will be making (Starcraft II, WoW...etc)).This is very dumb. If Blizzard was my company...why the fack would I not make this availiable to PS3, 360, PC, Wii...and DS. No im not shatting you. Imagine the dough that would roll in. The only forseeable danger is that A. People might think it is too availiable (if that makes any sense). B. Time. Even though DIII is not the most technically impressive piece of art...it takes time and money to port to all other consoles.

2. Money, money, money, moooooooney....MOOOOONNNNNNAAAAAAAAYY!!! Blizzard makesa crap load as it is from WoW, but imagine if they make DIII availiable to just about everyone. The AAA is there, the people wanting to play is there, the MOOOONAY is there. Making this decision to make this sucker Meagaplatform (Meaning availiable for all of the most important systems on the market. My word....so don't you use it....jk everyone can use it...(c)...too late).I really like this perspective. Its kinda like saying this: "Guys...would youy like to make a couple of million dollars...?" or "Guys, how would you like to make half a billion dollars...?". Its a win win win situation. People get to play DIII, Blizzard makes a crap load of money, and the gaming industry expands once more :) . The only negative will be the winey Hermits saying....waa, waaaa.....DIII is naught exkloosive :(. My respose to them: "CALL THE WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE".

Cheers. the_dark-knight

A great example of schizophrenia. Thank you.

wonder whats the minimun requirements for d3?

p3(4) processor, 512 ram, win xp?

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

If its profitable, i dont see why Blizzard would not want to port it tbh.

nitekids2004

Quality comes before raw profit in Blizzard's book. Blizzard is not EA.

*looks at WoW*

*looks at Diablo and Starcraft port*

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

Everyone knows games sell better on consoles vs PC.

nitekids2004

But this is Blizzard game, even combined PS3 and 360 sales wouldn't propably reach even half of what PC version will sell

Yes - but this is a window of opportunity for Blizzard.

Shooters and Wrpgs are the craze on consoles right now. What better way for them to target said market?

So yes, it is a golden opportunity, if they keep it PC only

If it is exclusive, I'll play it, if it's not exclusive, I'll play it. Point: I don't give a ****.WeAreBorn

If its dumbed down for consoles, don't expect it to be have the same quality as the shining gem called Diablo 2.

D3 should remain exclusive, its the only way to make the game to the Blizzard standard.

They could do a simplified port or Spinoff later... they could call it 'Diablo for Dummies'

To make more money? Isn't that why developers make games? Everyone knows games sell better on consoles vs PC.

-Renegade

Blatently untrue. The Orange Box is one example of this.

Yes they should.

Firstly, the PC and any console Blizzard would port it to are very different systems in terms of hardware, appeal and capability. If you made one game for both platforms, neither version will be optimised for its respective platform.

Secondly, Blizzard aren't going to be losing too much if they focus on a PC version. PC gaming is the single most popular form of gaming in the world, and Blizzard is one of the most popular developers. On the PC version alone, they'll probably make more then they would if they released it on all three consoles.

Not only that, but the PC version due to being very forgiving in its system requirements will attract console players anyway, alleviating the need for a seperate version. Since quality is threatened by multiplatform status, going PC only is a much safer bet.

Why would you remake games for a console fanbase, who have had no experience playing Blizz games, and snub your massive PC fanbase, that you are already making tons of cash off?

A brilliant development idea that is bound to roll in money right?.....right?.

Its not about just the controls people, its about either audience and core game design.

[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]If it is exclusive, I'll play it, if it's not exclusive, I'll play it. Point: I don't give a ****.PandaBear86

If its dumbed down for consoles, don't expect it to be have the same quality as the shining gem called Diablo 2.

Then, I'll buy it for PC.

[QUOTE="ice144"]

my god...it's only on the pc...get over it.

Chances are your computer can play it, why risk moving it to consoles?

nitekids2004

uhhh..why not?

Just asking the reason.

Porting a game is not free you know.

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]

[QUOTE="WeAreBorn"]If it is exclusive, I'll play it, if it's not exclusive, I'll play it. Point: I don't give a ****.WeAreBorn

If its dumbed down for consoles, don't expect it to be have the same quality as the shining gem called Diablo 2.

Then, I'll buy it for PC.

Although the PC version will be superior, it will still be compromised since it has to have some similarities to the 360 version.

As long as it's developed primarily for the PC, I don't see why anyone in their right mind would care. It's not like Blizzard is in cahoots with NVidia, they have no reason to make a PC-exclusive game.

Does it really matter? No. the most popular version with the most people would be on the pc, and no one plays it for the single player. so buying it for a console wouldn't make much sense, especially since almost any computer is bound to be able to run it.

diped

I prefer playing games on my console. The gamepad, the couch, the TV. Diablo would be perfect for consoles. Who said anything about single-player? It's not like Online is exclusive to PC. This would be the perfect online co-op console game. If it came out on console I might develop a serious addiction.

As long as it's developed primarily for the PC, I don't see why anyone in their right mind would care. It's not like Blizzard is in cahoots with NVidia, they have no reason to make a PC-exclusive game.

excelR83

Games skewed to PCs and consoles often dilute their appeal to either a PC or console audience.

It's like trying to have your cake and eat it too.