Should Nin have just dropped the gamepad, instead of another mid gen release?

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#1  Edited By Pharoahogc1
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Should Nintendo have just dropped the gamepad like a year ago and shipped with the pro instead? Do you think that would have been better than releasing mid gen again?

I think if they acred in the problem and shipped with a conventional controller for the Wii u and used the gamepad as a mirror device only (if you wanted) it would be in a wayy better position than they are now.

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#2 commander
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@Pharoahogc1 said:

Should Nintendo have just dropped the gamepad like a year ago and shipped with the pro instead? Do you think that would have been better than releasing mid gen again?

Well what I find so bothersome with the wii and wii u is all those peripherals that need to be connected if you want to play.

I remember trying to play a game on the wii and that wii mote had to be connected.

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@commander: I know! I find it so dumb that you NEED the gamepad to even access the setting! Why are they doing this? Was that part of Iwota's strategy or something

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#4  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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Wouldnt be possible, too many games require the Gamepad, would be silly trying to sell the console without it. Also, Pro controller has no Gyro, would make Splatoon a fail.

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#5 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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No. The Wii U was dead after a point, and there was no salvaging it. Best to just start over, which is what they have done.

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@Pharoahogc1 said:

Should Nintendo have just dropped the gamepad like a year ago and shipped with the pro instead? Do you think that would have been better than releasing mid gen again?

I think if they acred in the problem and shipped with a conventional controller for the Wii u and used the gamepad as a mirror device only (if you wanted) it would be in a wayy better position than they are now.

The Wii U as a whole was a turd, dropping the Gamepad wouldn't have done much for that console.

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#7  Edited By 2Chalupas
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@emgesp said:
@Pharoahogc1 said:

Should Nintendo have just dropped the gamepad like a year ago and shipped with the pro instead? Do you think that would have been better than releasing mid gen again?

I think if they acred in the problem and shipped with a conventional controller for the Wii u and used the gamepad as a mirror device only (if you wanted) it would be in a wayy better position than they are now.

The Wii U as a whole was a turd, dropping the Gamepad wouldn't have done much for that console.

I agree. The Wii-U was underpowered hardware - the gimmick of the tablet was the only unique thing it had going for it otherwise. Remove the tablet, even if most people don't really want the tablet, and it's basically just crappy hardware running last gen quality games.

I guess if they had removed the tablet they arguably could have sold the hardware for $99 or $149. That might have at least helped with volume/market share. But they waited wait too long to do anything at all - instead, they let it languish

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#8  Edited By mariokart64fan
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Um xenoblade x would fry last gen systems especially the ps3

But I'd rather have new hardware because even ps4 and Xbox one are underpowered pieces of trash and I really don't see much of a difference from last gen to this gen

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#11 2Chalupas
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@speak_low said:
@mariokart64fan said:

Um xenoblade x would fry last gen systems especially the ps3

But I'd rather have new hardware because even ps4 and Xbox one are underpowered pieces of trash and I really don't see much of a difference from last gen to this gen

Oh, so now you want more power. Sheep were always saying how it's not about the extra nose hairs and extra polygons, but about gameplay.

If Xbox One and PS4 were underpowered pieces of trash for 2014, the Wii U was the biggest one of all.

Oh, NOW you want more power. You're probably glad that the NX will be a big step up from the Wii U's weak innards.

I know, right? They don't even see the hypocricy. The game would "fry" the PS3, because, you know... the awesome power of the Wii-U. Even though it's technically no more impressive than GTA V or Last of Us, and these comparisons are to a system that originally released in 2006

Then in the next breath, the PS4 is a piece of trash that doesn't have enough "powah". LOL. We need new hardware. What the hell have Wii-U gamers been doing then with a system worse than 1/4th of the PS4? Is this an admittance that the Wii-U is actually only a gen 7 system?

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#12  Edited By raugutcon
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Should Nin have just dropped the gamepad, instead of another mid gen release?

It´s not a matter of dropping or not dropping, it´s a matter of making the gamepad the center, heart and soul of the system, you can´t access anything without the damn thing ( MS was following the same path trying to make Kinect the center of the system, fortunately they didn´t )

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It shouldn't have had the Gamepad from the start. Obsolete tech that just drove up the cost for something most people didn't care about (off-screen play).

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#14 IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@Pharoahogc1: Launching mid-gen again? What else have they released mid-gen?

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#15  Edited By Whistle_Blower
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No, we need nintendo cause sony and M$ are complete shit

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#16  Edited By ldustin
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They should have dropped the Gamepad and WiiU name at E3 2012. If you go back further, they should have just launched the system with SS in 2011. The console could have had a real price advantage today (4 years in) and people would be more willing to excuse its graphical failings. It might have sold 20-30 million units by the end of this holiday but Iwata would not change course.

In Iwata's first mention of new hardware he said that Nintendo would not be releasing a version of WiiU without the Gamepad and they would instead start over from scratch (read, new console) to find a better price point for the market.

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#17 Micropixel
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No.

Dropping the gamepad means eliminating some very solid games that are great because of it's features; such as Splatoon, Art Academy, Affordable Space Adventures, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Spin the Bottle, Art Of Balance, Zombi U, Super Mario Maker and Xenoblade Chronicles X.

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#18  Edited By dobzilian
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N64 released 2 year after the PSX. It will be 3 years after the ps4 and X1 or close to 3 years anyways. I suppose the N64 should be counted mid gen too if we use when psx and saturn was released.

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#19 KungfuKitten
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The gamepad is a great controller so no.

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#20 dobzilian
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My bad, i was wrong. Thought psx was 94 and N64 was 96.

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@ldustin said:

They should have dropped the Gamepad and WiiU name at E3 2012. If you go back further, they should have just launched the system with SS in 2011. The console could have had a real price advantage today (4 years in) and people would be more willing to excuse its graphical failings. It might have sold 20-30 million units by the end of this holiday but Iwata would not change course.

In Iwata's first mention of new hardware he said that Nintendo would not be releasing a version of WiiU without the Gamepad and they would instead start over from scratch (read, new console) to find a better price point for the market.

I agree, that would've been great. Call it the super Wii, launch it with both a Wii U pro like controller and an updated wii mote and nunchuck, then bam. Unlike the gamepad the Wii mote really was a revolution, mostly for the pointer controls. Even if it were just as powerful as the Wii U was, it would've done so much better.