Should Nintendo go 3rd party?

SNOWBALL!

Says a guy who owns only 1 console (Wii U). Grats for having 1 console lol without games.

Hey look! Its another FreedomFreeLife thread lol

Here I thought trolls like you sleep. The internetz are geting more serious these days I guess.

Well, I'm getting a PS4 next week. Does this meet with your approval?

So mad about his thread going south right away.

Nintendo should just make a VITA like handheld, and forget about home console.

Nintendo will be fine just sticking with Handhelds, and by sticking to handhleds they can still keep their IPs instead of going 3rd party like SAGA. Nintendo making a console like powerful handheld (like the VITA) they can still do the things they would have done on a home console (which they dont much in the first place).

Same old question, same answer.

No!

no i quit if that happened im already fed up with paying to play online and having multiplayer it should be free and nintendos the only one to offer that so no

Explain me why "NO". Why having worse ports when we could have even better Mario and Zelda version?

This question is only entertained by immature teenagers (or people with the mental maturity of a teenager but physically an adult) who feel uncomfortable saying they play "games for kids, on a console for kids" in front of their "cool" friends.

The only people who use "adult" as a term of approval are themselves not adult at all.

Don't be a cheap-ass. If you want Nintendo games so bad... buy a Nintendo console to play them on, or STFU already.

Still waiting for that approval, btw.

Not this thread again and it is in the last few weeks. Can people make original threads on this forum?

I have those Nintendo games on Wii and WII U but most them are not great. Low frame rate, bad grahpics, dead online, no stats, no demo games... nothing. It´s like you buying system only for Single-Player games. Also the thing is that Wii U has NO GAMES !!!

Then why do you want "NO GAMES" on another system?

No, but they should take the industry more serious, get their heads out their ass, listen to wtf gamers actually want, and make a good console. By good console, I mean a powerful console that can actually compete power wise and release it with a normal controller (I vote updated version of the Gamecube controller). They also need to do some serious ass kissing to third party to gain their support.

@PonchoTaco: that was the fault if a load of crybabies afraid of a discussion, not him.

Should they? probably not. I'm going to assume someone at their company can point out the ridiculous amount of more money they are capable of making as a console owner. Especially given that they've had success in that market, and have the capital to survive a bum console here or there.

Would I like them to? Hell yeah, Nintendo games on my PC would be glorious.

It has more games than PS4\X1

And Super Mario 3D World are amazing,60fps 1080p glory

Tons of demos as well

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Honestly, its because this topic is brought up ALL THE TIME and the answers are always the same.

Tell me. Why would an extremely profitable gaming company jump ship? Nintendo has consistently been more profitable than Sony and MS game divisions since both companies respective entries into this industry.

People tend to think Nintendo should jump ship during rough times. Yet not a word when MS and Sony game divisions are going through far worse times.

Its just a pointless and one sided question at the end of the day.

Okay, I have to admit that would be awesome.

Playing Metroid Prime and F-Zero GX off of steam would be pretty sweet. It's not like Nintendo cares about anything but regurgitating Mario's face these days.

@mariokart64fan: if Nintendo charged people for the dogshit online service they provide they'd be a laughing stock. They haven't got the concept at all.

NO GAMES i meant that they don´t have nothing else than Mario and Zelda. Why on another system? Then everyone can play those games and far better version. Also my friend wanted to play Mario Party game but he couldnt because there is no online mode at all. Same with all other games. I asked my friends if they buy Wii U and they said: "No, never ever will buy another Nintendo system because im tired of bad ports". Look at Wii U sales. Nobody wants a system that has no features. System is not worth money. Supporting Nintendo gives clear signal to them that they should ignore online and 3rd party games and deny everything else. You don´t get it? If Nintendo fails, then they learn. Nintendo won´t learn anything if you keep support and deny everything.

So we would be left with non backwards compatible hardware with and forced online subscriptions?

That would be the day I move to PC only.

Yeah man. Higher res games, better framerate, actual sales on their games(I'm sure they would go the activision route of handling sales), their entire back catelog on Steam(hey a man can dream), not having to shell out extra money for another gaming device, clearing up some room on my gaming tv set. I'd be cool with any one of them going third party so long as it meant I also get their games on PC :>

Yeah online service is something else Nintendo needs to get their heads out their ass and fix as well. First thing to fix, remove friend codes. What a stupid idea that was. I have had my 3DS XL since Thanksgiving and have one friend. Don't know anybody in RL with a 3DS (or a Vita for that matter). So unless somebody here or on facebook hits me up with their friend code telling me they added me, I have no clue if somebody even added me.

"non backwards compatible hardware" - WTF? We have cloud gaming which makes all games can be played on PS4 and Xbox One.

Second, PC gamers already playing all Nintendo games on PC(For example, all Wii games can be played on PC). Forced online subscription? Nothing is forced. Nintendo is developement team. They can easily make single-player games on PS4 and Xbox One. Also what forced online? All PS4 and Xbox One owners already paying for online.

And MODS!!!!! :P

I don't deny that Nintendo has done a shitty job with the Wii U, we all know it. Most of us just accept that with Nintendo consoles, you expect no Western third party support, a trickling of Nintendo exclusives and the rare Japanese third party exclusive.

Complaining on a game forum isn't going to change anything they do, though.

Nobody would lost if Nintendo went to 3rd party. Instead everyone would win. Nintendo would make even better games and then PS4, Xbox One and PC gamers would love their games. Also this means more game developers would make those games on next gen system which means it´s less risky to make games on PS4 and Xbox One than Wii U which leads to more quality games. Nintendo needs to move on. Nothing stands forever.

Lol, this guy takes everything people say in threads seriously.

I just wish Nintendo would make a console on par with the competition of the current gen, instead of previous ones like they've done lately. I feel that if they made games on Sony or Microsoft systems, those companies wouldn't be open-minded enough to let Nintendo be Nintendo.

Of course that's both a good and bad thing. Good, because Nintendo can be too stubborn about change. Bad, because their loopiness allows them to be very creative at times, and do things the others end up trying to copy later on.

In a perfect world, Nintendo would have the most powerful console of the three, and make amazing games with the best tech available for consoles, and keep their crazy innovations intact, but also get with the times in terms of online play and such as well.

" those companies wouldn't be open-minded enough to let Nintendo be Nintendo." - I don´t think so. Game developers are free to make games they want on any platform. Nobody force anyone with anything. Only maybe first party games but 3rd party is free. Nintendo could make their dream games on PS4, Xbox One and PC

I don't think so, if for the sole fact that we would miss some of the Nintendo ingenuity we've seen lately. I know many will disagree with that sentiment, but two screens on a handheld has been fantastic; fantastic for the Mario and Luigi games, fantastic for Zelda, fantastic for Pokémon, the list could go on. Motion controls at the forefront of their games last gen, not something I was 100% on board with but it was there and made them successful. And now the Wii U, possibilities with the Gamepad, Miiverse, and maybe more that we haven't seen yet.

This may not be the answer you are looking for, and I know people could refute these with the likes of Playstation Move or Remote Play, but what Nintendo did was design content around the hardware; not all the time but a lot. A lot of fresh experiences and new gameplay ideas were brought to gamers through this.

And those remarks are just about recent hardware. There is a better case that could be made in defense of Nintendo not going third-party, and I'm not one to make it, but I'll say I firmly believe they should stay away from going third-party for the time being.

and Wii U gamepad is reason why nobody buys Wii U

also what this gamepad helps when Wii U has no games and no online at all?

I'd argue that it isn't the Gamepad that people aren't buying the Wii U. Awareness and price are the two largest factors I see news outlets speaking of when they mention the Wii U's failures.

And I'm not exactly sure what you're saying in the second sentence, not exactly sure if you're resorting to trolling now or not, but there are games out for the Wii U. Many great games that I don't need to list because they've been listed countless times before and you could go to the Wii U page on this site to see them for yourself.

But the Gamepad offers terrific off-screen play for many titles, it has the potential to be a unique feature like when used in NintendoLand or ZombieU, and for games like Call of Duty it offers a neat experience to have two players in the game, one using the Gamepad and another using the TV. Great for having friends over! :P

No, they shouldn't.

Nintendo going third party isn't necessarily doom and gloom. Their dev teams will likely be just as competent as they are now. Sure, they'll have a few missteps, but they will adapt if they need to.

Should they fail to adapt though, one should remamber that they aren't jerks to their fans. A third-party Nintendo could give sufficiently talented fans more exposure as they could easily find a fan-made product that deserves attention and publish it. Cuz hey, a remake of Ocarina of Time that eats graphics cards for breakfast will likely result in an influx of impulse buyers.

It's up to them really although their handhelds will continue to do well.

I've never been in the mindset that if they did go third party, all of a sudden their quality would decline but at the same time it's obvious that they make money while being satisfied at doing their own thing.

@FreedomFreeLife: Lol you counting PlayStation Now as BC? You do realize you hpneed yet another subscription OR individually rent the games you already own on other devices. It's what we've had all along but as downloads. It's not at all BC.

#1. Yeah, and there are literally dons of people pirating Nintendo games on PC, you think that's a good thing? Also, you do realize you need your subscription to play online, right? How much money will you sink into your video games before micro transactions are the norm on consoles?

My recommendation for you: if you're so desperate to play these games, then stop being cheap buy the damn system. Just like if you want a Vita, go buy the damn system instead of begging for ports. Just like if you want a 3ds, go buy the damn system instead of making yourself look cheap by begging for ports. Just like if you want Titanfall, go buy a X1 or PC instead of being a fanboy and beg for a ps4 port.

This is the industry's rules. Play them, instead of complaining on Internet forums. Or you can do what you said and be a pirate and emulate them, stealing from the developers who worked years for their works of art.

I chose yes.

WHY DID I CHOOSE YES?

From what I have been observing in the Nintendo Fanbase (I have actually been exploring other forums for the past 2 weeks and on Facebook and Youtube) that they are literally treating Nintendo as a third party company already.

They're prepared. They subconsciously know that Nintendo is going to appear on iOS and Sony platforms. Soon they'll be saying "Xbox Play Super Mario Galaxy X" and play the game on their Xbox Controllers. They're prepared to download Super Metroid Redux on Steam.

It's clear.

I'm seeing Posts like "Well If you wanted to play (insert 3rd Party game not on Nintendo), then you should have gotten a PS3/4 or Xbox 360/One!" or "I just get Nintendo games for the Nintendo first party and then a Sony/Microsoft Machine for the rest." or the laughable "3rd Party Sucks."

These are actual posts you will see in the Nintendo Fanbase. I told them countless times that what is going on is not good for Nintendo and they brush it off and say stuff like "Nintendo is fine! 3rd Party is the trash!" or "Nintendo don't need no 3rd Party!" or "Well those games aren't for me."

While that maybe true for most of the fanbase I know I'm not alone because there are few there that are actually in my boat saying "Yeah we'd actually buy a 3rd Party game if it was developed for WiiU and not completely gimped." but while they would say that most if not almost the ENTIRE Nintendo fanbase has Sony and Microsoft Systems, heck some have gaming PCs.

While the Sony Fanbase and the Xbox Fanbase can comfortably say they don't need the other System(s). It's Nintendo's Fanbase that says They need the other systems.

And that just shows me that the Nintendo Fanbase is no longer treating Nintendo as a comfortable 1st Party System Holder. They're already treating Nintendo as a 3rd party Developer.

yes! cause only then their games wont look like some bright ass colored looney tunes crap