Should PC ratings be allowed to change?

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#1 comstrikeiscool
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Let's say a game scores an 8.5 instead of a 9.0 for one reason or another. If within the months to follow of the games release the developer releases a patch to fix the error/glitch/whatever should the rating be changed?
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#2 Doom_HellKnight
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I don't think so, unless a fix is created on day one, as with Company of Heroes.
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#3 Vandalvideo
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It is an ideal scenario, but the logistics of updating a review everytime a new update or patch comes out ultimately makes the idea not work. Do you have any idea how many times the WoW review would have had to be redone?
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#4 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Hard question, I suggest yes.. In the end all these reviews are, is buyer guides.. Patchs in some of th egame have done some pretty huge/massive improvemetns I see no reason why they wouldn't do it.
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#5 iamanoobkillme
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if the game is not ready dont sell it. if they get hurt scores cus of it its there fault .
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#6 artichoke
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I'd say as long as it's done within the first week then yes. Otherwise no but maybe they should add a box at the end of the review saying which things that they marked down for have been fixed by patches.
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#7 cobrax75
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no, with the only exception being MMO's.

the reason the reviews for MMO's should be open to change is because reviewers typiclly review only a tiny percentage of the content in an MMO, and because updates can often change MMO's drasticlly....The Early game WOW for example, is nothing like the late game WOW.

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#8 mattyftm
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You could say the same about a PS3 or 360 game (e.g. bully for 360). At the end of the day you can't expect gamespot to waste their time going back to re-review games because of a patch. If a game is broken on day 1 then its the developers fault.
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#9 deactivated-59d151f079814
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You could say the same about a PS3 or 360 game (e.g. bully for 360). At the end of the day you can't expect gamespot to waste their time going back to re-review games because of a patch. If a game is broken on day 1 then its the developers fault.mattyftm

What does this have anything to do with the point on whehter its the developers fault? Who cares about the developers at this time, I would like to know that a game with a serious issue or two was fixed and now its a kick ass game.. Vampires the Masquerade is a great example of this, due to patchs the game is easilly a AAA now after tech issues have been fixed.. Its not about giving devs slack, its about giving a good buyers guide.

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#10 haris12121212
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Nope, I don't agree with that. You finish a game, you must make it as perfect as possible. When a finished game has huge flaws (And I've seen a few PC games with that) The patch doesn't excuse you, for the first month the player had headaches playing the game.
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#11 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Nope, I don't agree with that. You finish a game, you must make it as perfect as possible. When a finished game has huge flaws (And I've seen a few PC games with that) The patch doesn't excuse you, for the first month the player had headaches playing the game.haris12121212

Yet again how does this help ME as a buyer to decide on what to buy? I should see no problem in changing ratings regardless of the platforms on patchs, because in the end all these reviews are, is suggestions on purchases..

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#12 KingCotton462
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Most PC reviews are full of bias and ignorance, but yes, if console reviews get changed, so should PC ones.
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#13 meetroid8
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No. Its logistically impossible.
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Not after they have been first reviewed, no. If a developer decides to release a buggy game then it is their fault for doing so. It can be added in an update to the review that a "patch" has been released that has fixed some problems first found but you cannot "change" the review for the new information.

Another big problem, especially here on Gamespot, is that PC games are for some reason held to "higher standards" than console games. The age of multiplatform games is on the rise and just because of PC's "higher standards," multiplatform titles will score less on PC thus making the console version seem "better" to the average Gamespot visitor (who will only peruse scores) even if in the review it says the PC version is the "definitive version."

This is why I think all comparison between games, genres and platforms should be eliminated from reviews and games should only be rated on their merits and problems alone regardless of what other games in the series, in the genre or on the platform have done. Comparing games to other games is a waste of time when I want to know if the game being reviewed is fun, fresh and memorable.
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#15 mattyftm
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[QUOTE="mattyftm"]You could say the same about a PS3 or 360 game (e.g. bully for 360). At the end of the day you can't expect gamespot to waste their time going back to re-review games because of a patch. If a game is broken on day 1 then its the developers fault.sSubZerOo

What does this have anything to do with the point on whehter its the developers fault? Who cares about the developers at this time, I would like to know that a game with a serious issue or two was fixed and now its a kick ass game.. Vampires the Masquerade is a great example of this, due to patchs the game is easilly a AAA now after tech issues have been fixed.. Its not about giving devs slack, its about giving a good buyers guide.

Yeah, but read a review, if the main problems are tech issues, check to see if there is a patch and if there is, find peoples opinions on the patch. Simple.

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#16 Cranler
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Most PC reviews are full of bias and ignorance, but yes, if console reviews get changed, so should PC ones.KingCotton462

Gears of War pc is the perfect example. Possibly one of the buggiest games ever and none of the bugs were mentioned in any reviews from the big sites. Then you have Dark Messiah with the same amount of bugs getting scored down for bugs.

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#17 bobbetybob
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No. The game developers shouldn't release a product on the market that is broken to be honest. Review sites should stick with the original score.
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#18 EuroMafia
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You talking about Mass Effect? If the reason it was AAA was because of the bugs and it runs better on PC, then it could get AAA on PC.

However it shouldn't because they released a buggy game the first time.

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#19 Cranler
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You talking about Mass Effect? If the reason it was AAA was because of the bugs and it runs better on PC, then it could get AAA on PC.

However it shouldn't because they released a buggy game the first time.

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Its about a pc game being released in an unstable state and then eventually patched.

Why should the 360 version factor into the pc score? Makes no sense.

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#20 Danm_999
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Yes. Reviews are after all, a buyer's guide. They tell the consumers what they should expect from a title, and bugs and performances factor into this. If a PC game gets markably better a few months after release, this fact should not be withheld from consumers, it should be addressed.

HOWEVER, the original state of the game also needs to be acknowledge, both so it encourages developers to release something decent out the door, and to help consumers understand how future titles from said developer might pan out.

What I'd say is that an original score is published, then if something needs amending, an amended score is released later, and both are acknowledged in a review.

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#21 leonhead
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Yeah i guess they should be done, because they change all the time. But it'll be a pain for the reviewers everytime a new patch comes out they have to re review it
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#22 Danm_999
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Yeah i guess they should be done, because they change all the time. But it'll be a pain for the reviewers everytime a new patch comes out they have to re review itleonhead

I suppose they have to make a judgement on whether or not it dramatically affects the value and quality of the game.

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#23 skrat_01
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Nope.

Same with consoles games that get patches.

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#24 akif22
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if this became a trend, devs would be happy to release broken games earlier, and then just patch them

they should keep the original score to encourage devs to release games with as few problems as possible