Should Sony go after the casuals with PS4 as well as the hardcore?

Should Sony go after the delicious casual pie that MS and Nintendo are after or just stick with the hardcore. They will have much to learn from the masters of MS and Nintendo. MS is the ultimate console for both hardcore and casual experiences. They have pretty much every genre and game type for any and everyone. Its just incredible.

Should Sony go after the delicious casual pie that MS and Nintendo are after or just stick with the hardcore. They will have much to learn from the masters of MS and Nintendo. MS is the ultimate console for both hardcore and casual experiences. They have pretty much every genre and game type for any and everyone. Its just incredible.

jimmypsn

I hope they don't. Microsoft already sold out the core gamer.MercenaryMafia

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Should Sony go after the delicious casual pie that MS and Nintendo are after or just stick with the hardcore. They will have much to learn from the masters of MS and Nintendo. MS is the ultimate console for both hardcore and casual experiences. They have pretty much every genre and game type for any and everyone. Its just incredible.

mD-

I hope they don't. Microsoft already sold out the core gamer.MercenaryMafia

Like it or not, "casuals" will always be popular over "hardcores." Always.

If Sony sticks to just "hardcores" for PS4, they'll fail again. They most likely need to target both groups.

Everytime Sony tries to go after casuals, like with Move for instance, they fail miserably. Hell not even their hardcore games sell well.

They're doomed to last place I'm afraid. Then bankruptcy.

Should Sony go after the delicious casual pie that MS and Nintendo are after or just stick with the hardcore. They will have much to learn from the masters of MS and Nintendo. MS is the ultimate console for both hardcore and casual experiences. They have pretty much every genre and game type for any and everyone. Its just incredible.

jimmypsn

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Should Sony go after the delicious casual pie that MS and Nintendo are after or just stick with the hardcore. They will have much to learn from the masters of MS and Nintendo. MS is the ultimate console for both hardcore and casual experiences. They have pretty much every genre and game type for any and everyone. Its just incredible.

PS3FanMan4Life

That is all

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Should Sony go after the delicious casual pie that MS and Nintendo are after or just stick with the hardcore. They will have much to learn from the masters of MS and Nintendo. MS is the ultimate console for both hardcore and casual experiences. They have pretty much every genre and game type for any and everyone. Its just incredible.

PS3FanMan4Life

With the power of the Cell 2, blu-ray, quad core graphics, and 8gigs of ram, the PS4 will be ready for both casual and hardcore gamers. Sony is big, smart, and flexible enough to dominate both classes. I predict Sony takes 60% market share next gen, with the Wii U taking 25%.PS3FanMan4Life

LOL. You honestly think that those specs will come very cheap for $300 to $400? Doubt it. Sony can no longer afford to make such huge jumps with PS4 like they did with PS3.

[QUOTE="PS3FanMan4Life"]With the power of the Cell 2, blu-ray, quad core graphics, and 8gigs of ram, the PS4 will be ready for both casual and hardcore gamers. Sony is big, smart, and flexible enough to dominate both classes. I predict Sony takes 60% market share next gen, with the Wii U taking 25%.Shinobi120

LOL. You honestly think that those specs will come very cheap for $300 to $400? Doubt it. Sony can no longer afford to make such huge jumps with PS4 like they did with PS3.

[QUOTE="MercenaryMafia"]I hope they don't. Microsoft already sold out the core gamer.jimmypsn

Over 10 first party studios and only 2 make non kinect games. Many hardcore games indeed :lol:

Everytime Sony tries to go after casuals, like with Move for instance, they fail miserably. Hell not even their hardcore games sell well.

They're doomed to last place I'm afraid. Then bankruptcy.

groverslanding

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[QUOTE="PS3FanMan4Life"]With the power of the Cell 2, blu-ray, quad core graphics, and 8gigs of ram, the PS4 will be ready for both casual and hardcore gamers. Sony is big, smart, and flexible enough to dominate both classes. I predict Sony takes 60% market share next gen, with the Wii U taking 25%.PS3FanMan4Life

LOL. You honestly think that those specs will come very cheap for $300 to $400? Doubt it. Sony can no longer afford to make such huge jumps with PS4 like they did with PS3.

In bold...fail. It will always be exclusive to Microsoft. Plus MGS 5, the FF series, & Ridge Racer will most likely be multiplat with 360, 720, & Wii U from now on. And Killzone & Resistance? LMAO, nobody cares about those games.

Plus I got to laugh if you honestly think that Sony is going to take more huge losses off of each PS4 console sold just to please fanboys like you. They won't. Sony is going to most likely go the Wii route by using off the shelf, lower cost parts in order to make a profit off of each PS4 console being sold (meaning, PS4 won't be incredibly powerful as you may think).

[QUOTE="MercenaryMafia"]I hope they don't. Microsoft already sold out the core gamer.jimmypsn

No, I hope they won't. Just look at the Xbox 360 now, Microsoft ruined it. There's barely any new hardcore games for it now.

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"][QUOTE="MercenaryMafia"]I hope they don't. Microsoft already sold out the core gamer.GamingGod999

Did you know Kinect games are hardcore, all that unresponsiveness and input lag makes it hard to master.

yes of course they will, and they will fail.

[QUOTE="PS3FanMan4Life"][QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

LOL. You honestly think that those specs will come very cheap for $300 to $400? Doubt it. Sony can no longer afford to make such huge jumps with PS4 like they did with PS3.

Shinobi120

In bold...fail. It will always be exclusive to Microsoft. Plus MGS 5, the FF series, & Ridge Racer will most likely be multiplat with 360, 720, & Wii U from now on. And Killzone & Resistance? LMAO, nobody cares about those games.

Plus I got to laugh if you honestly think that Sony is going to take more huge losses off of each PS4 console sold just to please fanboys like you. They won't. Sony is going to most likely go the Wii route by using off the shelf, lower cost parts in order to make a profit off of each PS4 console being sold (meaning, PS4 won't be incredibly powerful as you may think).

I've not doubt that even in next gen sony will have a better hardware....

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[QUOTE="PS3FanMan4Life"] They'll have to eat quite a bit at first, but they'll do it for market share. With the Halo series going multiplat, MGS5, FF series, Ridge Racer, Killzone, Resistence all lined up with PS4, it's bound to dominate. These specs are semi-official and may be tweaked slightly.PS3FanMan4Life

In bold...fail. It will always be exclusive to Microsoft. Plus MGS 5, the FF series, & Ridge Racer will most likely be multiplat with 360, 720, & Wii U from now on. And Killzone & Resistance? LMAO, nobody cares about those games.

Plus I got to laugh if you honestly think that Sony is going to take more huge losses off of each PS4 console sold just to please fanboys like you. They won't. Sony is going to most likely go the Wii route by using off the shelf, lower cost parts in order to make a profit off of each PS4 console being sold (meaning, PS4 won't be incredibly powerful as you may think).

LOL, you keep thinking that. Sony already tried what you said with the PS3 with "more power," & it didn't work out well for them. They blew all their profits that they made from PS1 & PS2 by going that route.

Plus "casuals" far outweigh "hardcores." And you can bet that Sony will start charging for online play once PS4 comes around.

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[QUOTE="jimmypsn"] Not really. They have so many hardcore games coming out.Nohtnym

Did you know Kinect games are hardcore, all that unresponsiveness and input lag makes it hard to master.

HARDCORE.

Sony probably will. They've already done it twice.

[QUOTE="PS3FanMan4Life"][QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

In bold...fail. It will always be exclusive to Microsoft. Plus MGS 5, the FF series, & Ridge Racer will most likely be multiplat with 360, 720, & Wii U from now on. And Killzone & Resistance? LMAO, nobody cares about those games.

Plus I got to laugh if you honestly think that Sony is going to take more huge losses off of each PS4 console sold just to please fanboys like you. They won't. Sony is going to most likely go the Wii route by using off the shelf, lower cost parts in order to make a profit off of each PS4 console being sold (meaning, PS4 won't be incredibly powerful as you may think).

Shinobi120

LOL, you keep thinking that. Sony already tried what you said with the PS3 with "more power," & it didn't work out well for them. Plus "casuals" far outweigh "hardcores." And you can bet that Sony will start charging for online play once PS4 comes around.

Same as this gen and last gen hopefully. The nice thing about them is their mix of Mature , Teen , and E for Everyone titles. Just look at some of their non-Mature rated stuff coming up in Sly Cooper , Ratchet and Clank Collection , Battle Royal , and LittleBigPlanet Karting. Casuals can enjoy them and core gamers can have fun playing them too. They can always dip into more uber-casual stuff like Singstar , Buzz , EyeToy/Move games ..... but it would be a shame if those just flat out replaced the other group. Please don't become THAT company.

Sony should not suck up to Consoles and Developers who cater for the casual market.
They should continue what theyre doing, making great games.

In time, the casual market will get bored and only the gamers will carry on gaming.. well, maybe.

They should go after both like they have always done(less successfully this gen with Wii casual dominance)

EVERY platform should go for EVERY type of gamer. does that make sense?

Should Sony go after the delicious casual pie that MS and Nintendo are after or just stick with the hardcore. They will have much to learn from the masters of MS and Nintendo. MS is the ultimate console for both hardcore and casual experiences. They have pretty much every genre and game type for any and everyone. Its just incredible.

jimmypsn

Should Sony go after the delicious casual pie that MS and Nintendo are after or just stick with the hardcore. They will have much to learn from the masters of MS and Nintendo. MS is the ultimate console for both hardcore and casual experiences. They have pretty much every genre and game type for any and everyone. Its just incredible.

jimmypsn

Same as this gen and last gen hopefully. The nice thing about them is their mix of Mature , Teen , and E for Everyone titles. Just look at some of their non-Mature rated stuff coming up in Sly Cooper , Ratchet and Clank Collection , Battle Royal , and LittleBigPlanet Karting. Casuals can enjoy them and core gamers can have fun playing them too. They can always dip into more uber-casual stuff like Singstar , Buzz , EyeToy/Move games ..... but it would be a shame if those just flat out replaced the other group. Please don't become THAT company.

Nike_Air

So they're going to copy Nintendo?

I hope they don't. That's why I rarely even play my 360 anymore no hardcore games and nothing but Kinect Krap.

Sony would have already gone casual if they had found a way to sell the PS3 to casuals. Heres the reason casuals havent bought a PS3. The OS is god awful. It requires worse-than-PC like updates that cripple the system for 20 minutes OFTEN. The updates required for games are nearly as bad. No casual wants to sit around and wait for a mandatory install that takes forever. PSN is a really bad XBL knock off, but its free so no one complains. PSN shutting down for a full day every 2 months or so is also a joke. Worst of all, Sony couldnt market free food to a homeless person. The PS4 will likely be drastically different hardware wise and very possibly a revamped PSN requiring payments for almost all of the new features. They will try to sell to casuals again, if they're smart. Its so hilarious that Sony fanboys strongly believe Sony is taking massive finacial hits because they dont want to sell out their hardcore market. I'd be surprised if a PS4 releases in the next 3 years with how bad Sony's money situation is. The next Xbox could easily release and leave Sony in the dust. Then the tide will shift to Microsoft again as they release a batch of new exclusives and possibly new franchises with a new console. Microsoft will continue support Kinect but will not stop making blockbuster titles totally. Sony is just at a high point right now with what I consider to be largely mediocre exclusives that are being overhyped because MS is releasing a lot of casual titles instead of ZOMG HXC TO THE MAXXX titles. I personally dont understand why Microsoft is taking this long to release a new big franchise. People think they'll always just release sequels but they could easily come up with a new franchise that would sell millions on their great marketing alone.

I hope they don't. That's why I rarely even play my 360 anymore no hardcore games and nothing but Kinect Krap.

HaloPimp978

This

Hopefully SONY realizes after Move that casuals/gimmicks it's not the THEIR forte. Am not saying Kinect/Move/Wii Motion controls are bad, but they are only used for casual games. So Move/Kinect aren't bad, but there are no hardcore games for it. If Sony and Microsoft want both the casuals and hardcore audience, they have to make casual/hardcore games with their intended technologies.

Casuals already fell for the Move/Kinect gimmick, they just need to attract the hardcore by making hardcore games, not that dancing crap they keep putting out.

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Everytime Sony tries to go after casuals, like with Move for instance, they fail miserably. Hell not even their hardcore games sell well.

They're doomed to last place I'm afraid. Then bankruptcy.

mD-

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="groverslanding"]

Everytime Sony tries to go after casuals, like with Move for instance, they fail miserably. Hell not even their hardcore games sell well.

They're doomed to last place I'm afraid. Then bankruptcy.

groverslanding

They should do their thing that they've been doing since PS1 and not try to "appeal" to anyone. Believe it or not there's more to video games than marketing and cutting people up into groups (that are ridiculous btw).

Should Sony go after the delicious casual pie that MS and Nintendo are after or just stick with the hardcore. They will have much to learn from the masters of MS and Nintendo. MS is the ultimate console for both hardcore and casual experiences. They have pretty much every genre and game type for any and everyone. Its just incredible.

jimmypsn

They should completely ignore the casuals as the casuals are leaving console gaming to go play cheap crappy games on there I-pads.

No. We don't need more Kinect crap.