Should Sony Just Forget About Killzone2 And Declare Resistance The Big One?

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#1 PSP107
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#2 GARRYTH
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no because if there both become AAA = better than one AAA. plus two wether there AA or AAA is better than one AAA.
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#3 NAPK1NS
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Don't know. I thought the first Killzone was so bad, I can't even justify hype for a Killzone 2.
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#4 AskForDetails
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LOL no...just no...
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#5 mmirza23
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they shouldnt just forget it, they've got a lot of money already invested in it, but for gamers i would trust insomniac over guerrilla any day.
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#6 DaddyLongCaddy
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There's no point, they have both...
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#7 donnygorgas
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Yeah they should forget about it. :roll:

The world is big enough for two popular FPSs.

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#8 glitchesofwar
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Why not hype both?

Much easier.

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#9 BreakingPoint8
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Well since Resistance: Fall of Man didn't suck and sold over 2 million copies, I would have to say that it should be the FPS being hyped and not Killzone 2.

But I seriously doubt it'll be out this year, atleast after reading up on all the details for the game.

Resistance 2 > Killzone 2. Make the right choice cows.

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#10 insane956dv
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Killzone has potential in the right hands
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#11 meetroid8
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No they've hyped it too too much to back down now.
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#12 redandblack23
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How can you not like this game...

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#13 trasherhead
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they've put 20 mill into that game.
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#14 BreakingPoint8
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:roll:

How can anyone care about it?

What makes Killzone 2 stand out among the FPS genre that'll make it more enjoyable compared to it's counterparts.

What have Guerrilla Games contributed to the FPS genre?

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How can you not like this game...

redandblack23

ahh all i see is pretty graphics if you want to call them that, no decent NEW gameplay or any sort. fail.

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#17 Nike_Air
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Sony is going to need both to compete with the upcoming PDZ 2 in the FPS genre. Red Steel 2 is coming out as well.

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#18 Jenai1
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[QUOTE="redandblack23"]





How can you not like this game...

game_fanatic

ahh all i see is pretty graphics if you want to call them that, no decent NEW gameplay or any sort. fail.

You've played the game have you? I didnt realise it was out?

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#19 GARRYTH
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:roll:

How can anyone care about it?

What makes Killzone 2 stand out among the FPS genre that'll make it more enjoyable compared to it's counterparts.

What have Guerrilla Games contributed to the FPS genre?

BreakingPoint8
a covering system witch the fps lack of.
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#20 redandblack23
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[QUOTE="redandblack23"]

How can you not like this game...

game_fanatic

ahh all i see is pretty graphics if you want to call them that, no decent NEW gameplay or any sort. fail.

ohh you mean like the NEW gameplay in the 9.5 scoring halo 3?
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#21 winner-ps3
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i still want killzone 2 more! but resistance2 is stealing its thunder big time! too early to tell killzone 2 has crazy potential, (always in first person with cover system) this will be copied by everyone!)
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#22 DarkCloud79
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Sony is going to need both to compete with the upcoming PDZ 2 in the FPS genre. Red Steel 2 is coming out as well.

Nike_Air

If PDZ2 turns out to be like the first one they won't need both.

Even Haze would suffice.

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#23 game_fanatic
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[QUOTE="game_fanatic"][QUOTE="redandblack23"]





How can you not like this game...

Jenai1

ahh all i see is pretty graphics if you want to call them that, no decent NEW gameplay or any sort. fail.

You've played the game have you? I didnt realise it was out?

yes of course i've forgotten that the last killzone made some briliant additions to shooters and that we should expect the same from this one :roll:

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#24 SizeMatterzz
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Sony is going to need both to compete with the upcoming PDZ 2 in the FPS genre. Red Steel 2 is coming out as well.

:lol:

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#25 caseypayne69
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Sony is going to need both to compete with the upcoming PDZ 2 in the FPS genre. Red Steel 2 is coming out as well.

Nike_Air

I smell sarcasm all over this post. lol

But then again 1st Killzone had potential but AI and such made it suck, just like how PDZ, and Red steel 1 suck. So it makes sense.

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#26 Madbhal402
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Resistance will be a golden series. Ans should not even be in the same sentence with Killcrap 2
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#27 TREAL_Since
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No way. That just means that there will be 2 HUGE exclusive FPS games for the PS3. I don't think they should come out around the same time though. Months apart is the best way to go.
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#28 rolo107
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Definitely, after pouring so many resources and money into Killzone they should just forget it. Right?
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#29 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="Jenai1"][QUOTE="game_fanatic"][QUOTE="redandblack23"]

How can you not like this game...

game_fanatic

ahh all i see is pretty graphics if you want to call them that, no decent NEW gameplay or any sort. fail.

You've played the game have you? I didnt realise it was out?

yes of course i've forgotten that the last killzone made some briliant additions to shooters and that we should expect the same from this one :roll:

So far everone who has played it says its very fun. Still we know nothing of this game besides it having amazing graphics. Any company can make a bad game then come back to make a stellar title.

KZ was originally a PC game, then ported to the PS2 with a low budget and time restraints. KZ2 faces none of these challenges.

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#30 ReverseCycology
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No. Sony needs as many games possible to help them. Sony and the cows could hype these games as the Big Ones but these games just really need to proves themselves. What Sony needs to focus on is lowering the price of a PS3 and bring back backward compatibility, and they need to focus more on PSN.

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#31 Ajam666
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[QUOTE="game_fanatic"][QUOTE="Jenai1"][QUOTE="game_fanatic"][QUOTE="redandblack23"]

How can you not like this game...

TREAL_Since

ahh all i see is pretty graphics if you want to call them that, no decent NEW gameplay or any sort. fail.

You've played the game have you? I didnt realise it was out?

yes of course i've forgotten that the last killzone made some briliant additions to shooters and that we should expect the same from this one :roll:

So far everone who has played it says its very fun. Still we know nothing of this game besides it having amazing graphics. Any company can make a bad game then come back to make a stellar title.

KZ was originally a PC game, then ported to the PS2 with a low budget and time restraints. KZ2 faces none of these challenges.

The first halo was to be made on the MAc then the PC then the PS2 then the Xbox whats ur Point?

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#32 AskForDetails
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How can you not like this game...

redandblack23
i know lemmings make is sounds as if every game on the 360 is better than it when in truth its the other way around
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#33 Senor_Kami
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Killzone 1 sucked (70 rating @ metacritic). Resistance 1 is AA (86 average @ metacritic) title. Not only that, its not like Killzone outsold resistance so you can't use popularity to explain the hype. Yet the Sony fanbase hypes the sequel to a crap game more than the sequel to a good game.

You'll need a Doctorate in Bovine Sciences to understand that one.

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#34 imapieceofwood
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I just want some more killzone 2 info! Come on killzone has been announce in 2005 and we have next to no info about the game. resistance 2 we have only known about it for a a week and we know alot moreabout it that killzone 2.

As for killzone getting AAA statues on gamespot i wouldn't hold my breath. lol. Just because the game has a budget of 20 million that doesn't mean its going be AAA. Just look at Uncharted. Uncharted had a budget at around 20 million(i heard this from a interview with evan wells long time ago) but still it barely made AA on gamespot. I personally own uncharted and i would give it AAA in a heart beat. Its so good!

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The first halo was to be made on the MAc then the PC then the PS2 then the Xbox whats ur Point?

Ajam666

And then Halo published up by MS and given a reasonable budget and time frame for completion. KZ has a great premise and great weapons and now that Sony is actually backing Guerilla Games as far as time and money issues are concerned it has potential to be an amazing game.

Take Bungie for example. They created a game called Oni. It scored 7.1 and 6.9 here at GS. Around the same score as the orginal KZ2. Any company can bounce back from a mediocre title.

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#36 Funkyhamster
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Eh, they might as well just hype both... one of them's bound to be decent, and having two "big ones" could be really good for marketing.
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#37 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="game_fanatic"][QUOTE="redandblack23"]

How can you not like this game...

redandblack23

ahh all i see is pretty graphics if you want to call them that, no decent NEW gameplay or any sort. fail.

ohh you mean like the NEW gameplay in the 9.5 scoring halo 3?

Halo 3 didn't need new gameplay when its predeccesors had a proven system.

Killzone 2on the other hand needs abig revamp in the gameplay if they plan on using the same formula of the first one.

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#38 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="redandblack23"][QUOTE="game_fanatic"][QUOTE="redandblack23"]

How can you not like this game...

II-FBIsniper-II

ahh all i see is pretty graphics if you want to call them that, no decent NEW gameplay or any sort. fail.

ohh you mean like the NEW gameplay in the 9.5 scoring halo 3?

Halo 3 didn't need new gameplay when its predeccesors had a proven system.

Killzone 2on the other hand needs abig revamp in the gameplay if they plan on using the same formula of the first one.

The reason Jeff scored Halo 3 a 9.5:

- Saved Films
- Community d/ls
- The Forge

IF Bungie hadn't done that it could have gotten an 8.5-9. But luckily they did include those great features so it deserved it's score. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the same old gameplay though.

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#39 Senor_Kami
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Take Bungie for example. They created a game called Oni. It scored 7.1 and 6.9 here at GS. Around the same score as the orginal KZ2. Any company can bounce back from a mediocre title.TREAL_Since

Difference is that there is ZERO HYPE FOR ONI 2. Nobody is like, "Oni 1 sucked, can't wait for Oni 2."

The reason Jeff scored Halo 3 a 9.5:

- Saved Films
- Community d/ls
- The Forge

IF Bungie hadn't done that it could have gotten an 8.5-9. But luckily they did include those great features so it deserved it's score. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the same old gameplay though.

TREAL_Since

I agree. If Halo 3 was missing alot of major features that it has, it wouldn't be as good of a game. I can forgive this logic. Fresh out of school with a Bachelor's in Bovine Science, its expected that people are alittle green under the the thumb. But I think in a year or two you'll catch on and be just as good as any other graduate.

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#40 ukillwegrill
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Killzone 1 had great graphics and was hyped to the max - It also sucked

Killzone 2 has great graphics and is hyped to the max (well not halo standards but still) - it will suck

Resistance has decent Graphics and wasnt hyped nearly as much as killzone - It was suprisngly decent

Resistance 2 has great graphics and is getting hyped so much - ???

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#41 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="Ajam666"]

The first halo was to be made on the MAc then the PC then the PS2 then the Xbox whats ur Point?

Senor_Kami

And then Halo published up by MS and given a reasonable budget and time frame for completion. KZ has a great premise and great weapons and now that Sony is actually backing Guerilla Games as far as time and money issues are concerned it has potential to be an amazing game.

Take Bungie for example. They created a game called Oni. It scored 7.1 and 6.9 here at GS. Around the same score as the orginal KZ2. Any company can bounce back from a mediocre title.

Difference is that there is ZERO HYPE FOR ONI 2. Nobody is like, "Oni 1 sucked, can't wait for Oni 2."

So... In no way can hype for a game hinder what the developers have planned for that game. The game will be either good or bad regardless.

Let cows hype the game. It's just hype and that is what SW is about. I'm excited to see if GG will overcome the challenges they faced with the first Killzone and make the best game they can.

Plus, I've only seen cows hype the graphics so far saying that it owns Halo 3's graphics. I'm not sure if KZ2 is hyped AAA though.

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No. Sony needs as many games possible to help them. Sony and the cows could hype these games as the Big Ones but these games just really need to proves themselves. What Sony needs to focus on is lowering the price of a PS3 and bring back backward compatibility, and they need to focus more on PSN.

ReverseCycology

Sony already has more than enough games that have already proven themselves

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#43 tmntPunchout
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Both are different games as far as I can tell so it shouldn't really matter. Killzone 2 has to prove itself better than its predecessor and Resistance needs to improve on what its already done. FPS fans should eat both these games up.
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#44 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

No. Sony needs as many games possible to help them. Sony and the cows could hype these games as the Big Ones but these games just really need to proves themselves. What Sony needs to focus on is lowering the price of a PS3 and bring back backward compatibility, and they need to focus more on PSN.

Blinblingthing

Sony already has more than enough games that have already proven themselves

Sorry no. Where's the exclusive AAA games?

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#45 gamenux
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It is a double punch. They should release the game 2 months separate so they don't cannobalize each other's sales.
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#46 tmntPunchout
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[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="Ajam666"]

The first halo was to be made on the MAc then the PC then the PS2 then the Xbox whats ur Point?

TREAL_Since

And then Halo published up by MS and given a reasonable budget and time frame for completion. KZ has a great premise and great weapons and now that Sony is actually backing Guerilla Games as far as time and money issues are concerned it has potential to be an amazing game.

Take Bungie for example. They created a game called Oni. It scored 7.1 and 6.9 here at GS. Around the same score as the orginal KZ2. Any company can bounce back from a mediocre title.

Difference is that there is ZERO HYPE FOR ONI 2. Nobody is like, "Oni 1 sucked, can't wait for Oni 2."

So... In no way can hype for a game hinder what the developers have planned for that game. The game will be either good or bad regardless.

Let cows hype the game. It's just hype and that is what SW is about. I'm excited to see if GG will overcome the challenges they faced with the first Killzone and make the best game they can.

Plus, I've only seen cows hype the graphics so far saying that it owns Halo 3's graphics. I'm not sure if KZ2 is hyped AAA though.

So many other games already look better than Halo 3, so it isn't to far off to believe that it will be better. Just to name a few, Alan Wake, CoD4, Mass Effect, ect. If anything, I would say Halo 3 is on par with GeoW and Uncharted.

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#47 Vasichko
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The problem is will KZ2 ever come out?
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#48 tmntPunchout
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

No. Sony needs as many games possible to help them. Sony and the cows could hype these games as the Big Ones but these games just really need to proves themselves. What Sony needs to focus on is lowering the price of a PS3 and bring back backward compatibility, and they need to focus more on PSN.

ReverseCycology

Sony already has more than enough games that have already proven themselves

Sorry no. Where's the exclusive AAA games?

Multiplats, 'nuff said. On another note, since when were AAA games the only enjoyable games?

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#49 Lazy_Boy88
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Um they have both and they'll both be insanely awesome. Just as long as they don't come out at the same time all is good.
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#50 AlphaRail
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Did I miss something...I don't remember anyone really hyping KZ2 :?. I think it would be stupid to stop making a game that they've spent, I think 1mil on? But I think Resistance 2 HAS been the big one for the past few weeks.