should steam come to linux?

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#1 dontshackzmii
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i would love if it came to ubuntu . Ubuntu 10.04 will boot in 10 seconds . linux would make making pcs cheaper . plus mac uses open gl just like linux so it would be easy to port games.

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#2 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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steam should defiantly come to linux.
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#3 Sparticus247
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O heck yeah! I would be very happy for that day.

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#4 Snagal123
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Steam should become an OS!

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#5 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Steam should become an OS!

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gabe hinted at that during the gdc speech last night so be careful what you wish for.
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#6 Zero5000X
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Then all 7 linux users could enjoy it as well!!!
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#7 Tezcatlipoca666
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Then all 7 linux users could enjoy it as well!!!Zero5000X
The only reason I use Windows is to play games. There are also many more Linux users than you think :)
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#8 Cherokee_Jack
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Yeah. Then you could play a better version of TF2 on your fat PS3.
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#9 Jamex1987
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That would just be a complete waste of time. ubntu and all the tons of different Linux distros are all complete garbage for home users. They all seem to be stuck in the 90s with the ridiculously old UI.
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That would just be a complete waste of time. ubntu and all the tons of different Linux distros are all complete garbage for home users. They all seem to be stuck in the 90s with the ridiculously old UI.Jamex1987
how do you get that? my 7 year old cousin found ubuntu easier to use than windows.
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#11 Notsogr8one
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Well, you can sort of already do it through Wine but I guess that could be cool.
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#12 dontshackzmii
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linux is way faster then windows . Its also way safer then windows . over all tis just better . plus think of the 100$ in saving you get with it . . most linux haters never used linux or just sucked at it and did not spend the time to learn .

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#13 Teuf_
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I couldn't imagine how it would be worth it. Linux has pitifully small marketshare, and most of it is servers and workstations. The amount of home users with Linux is effectively zero, as far a game developer is concerned.

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#14 Sparticus247
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That would just be a complete waste of time. ubntu and all the tons of different Linux distros are all complete garbage for home users. They all seem to be stuck in the 90s with the ridiculously old UI.Jamex1987

Have you even touched a modern distro?

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#15 skektek
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Steam has worked on Linux for a while now (via WINE), not all games work though.

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#16 adamosmaki
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That will be a dream come true. I also think is very likely considering their new UI is based on a webkit and is not based on internet explorer like before and they also gonna bring steam to MAC there is a good chance for it to come to linux as well
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#17 Vesica_Prime
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I'd like it to come to Linux.

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#18 Ensamheten
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Would it really be easier for us Linux users if it did? I mean it would be a way for compaines to sell native Linux games but what about games with DirectX? Linux Steam would need wine anyway

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#19 tagyhag
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Considering the market share, I really doubt they would, BUT I would love it if it did, anything is better than WINE. :P
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Would it really be easier for us Linux users if it did? I mean it would be a way for compaines to sell native Linux games but what about games with DirectX? Linux Steam would need wine anyway

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steam is coming to osx, which uses opengl as does a linux distro a game that could work with osx would require very little effort to be successfully ported.
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#21 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Ensamheten"]

Would it really be easier for us Linux users if it did? I mean it would be a way for compaines to sell native Linux games but what about games with DirectX? Linux Steam would need wine anyway

ferret-gamer

steam is coming to osx, which uses opengl as does a linux distro a game that could work with osx would require very little effort to be successfully ported.



Really? So you have a lot of experience with porting AAA games from OSX to Linux, eh?

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Ensamheten"]

Would it really be easier for us Linux users if it did? I mean it would be a way for compaines to sell native Linux games but what about games with DirectX? Linux Steam would need wine anyway

Teufelhuhn

steam is coming to osx, which uses opengl as does a linux distro a game that could work with osx would require very little effort to be successfully ported.



Really? So you have a lot of experience with porting AAA games from OSX to Linux, eh?

I don't think many people even have experience of porting AAA Windows games to OSX, considering hardly anyone does it at all, relying on crap like cider instead

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#23 Leo-Magic
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they should make a console directly for steam.
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#24 doobie1975
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Then all 7 linux users could enjoy it as well!!!Tezcatlipoca666
The only reason I use Windows is to play games. There are also many more Linux users than you think :)

agreed. its almost twice that figure
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#25 fabz_95
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I think it should definitely come to linux, I loved it when my laptop ran Ubuntu and if Steam came to it then I'd consider switching back to it.

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#26 ShadowriverUB
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Wine? It's like putting Half-Life 2 to Java, it's suppstitute but it's not solution and it's buggy as hell

Linux is still No. 1 gaming server OS and there already Steam subsystems ported to it, problem is desktop popularaty of Linux, most desktop linux users are geeks and nerds and they not much of a gamers. But if been ported w Mac it's one step to Linux, since both systems are very similar and unix-like

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#27 tarzanell
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I don't get it, what's wrong with WINE?
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I don't get it, what's wrong with WINE?tarzanell
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#29 lowe0
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[QUOTE="Ensamheten"]

Would it really be easier for us Linux users if it did? I mean it would be a way for compaines to sell native Linux games but what about games with DirectX? Linux Steam would need wine anyway

ferret-gamer
steam is coming to osx, which uses opengl as does a linux distro a game that could work with osx would require very little effort to be successfully ported.

That depends on whether they used Cocoa or not. If they did, then a port won't be as simple as you think.
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#30 dc337
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[QUOTE="Ensamheten"]

Would it really be easier for us Linux users if it did? I mean it would be a way for compaines to sell native Linux games but what about games with DirectX? Linux Steam would need wine anyway

ferret-gamer

steam is coming to osx, which uses opengl as does a linux distro a game that could work with osx would require very little effort to be successfully ported.

It isn't that simple. For starters Linux isn't an OS, it's a kernel. There are distros that use the Linux kernel but those distros don't maintain compatibility with each other which makes porting a huge pain.

Those distros collectively have about 1% market share in the US while Apple has about 12%.

So the answer here is a big fat no.

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#31 PandaBear86
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Ubuntu would then gain 0.0001% of the PC games market. I'm sure all those console-loving developers would be thrilled to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to port (including their previous games) their games onto Linux :roll:
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#32 Hexagon_777
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That would be really cool actually. Increasing the presence of gaming on operating systems that tend to run better than Windows would make for an interesting spectacle to behold.

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#33 PandaBear86
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That would be really cool actually. Increasing the presence of gaming on operating systems that tend to run better than Windows would make for an interesting spectacle to behold.

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I'm sure developers will be happy spending millions of dollars to cater to all 37 people who want to play Crysis on their Ubuntu netbooks.
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#34 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]That would be really cool actually. Increasing the presence of gaming on operating systems that tend to run better than Windows would make for an interesting spectacle to behold.PandaBear86
I'm sure developers will be happy spending millions of dollars to cater to all 37 people who want to play Crysis on their Ubuntu netbooks.

Because it will cost millions of dollars and there are only 37 people using Ubuntu, amirite?

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#35 PandaBear86
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[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]That would be really cool actually. Increasing the presence of gaming on operating systems that tend to run better than Windows would make for an interesting spectacle to behold.Hexagon_777

I'm sure developers will be happy spending millions of dollars to cater to all 37 people who want to play Crysis on their Ubuntu netbooks.

Because it will cost millions of dollars and there are only 37 people using Ubuntu, amirite?

If you want to play PC games, you would already have Windows installed on at least one PC in your household. If somebody buys a Linux netbook, gaming would be the LAST thing they plan to do with it. So yes, there are 37 Ubuntu users who want to play Crysis 2 on their netbooks. All the other Ubuntu users are smart enough to know that their netbooks are not designed for games.
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#36 ordinarydot
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i will be happy :D i'll support this if this comes true.
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#37 osan0
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Then all 7 linux users could enjoy it as well!!!Tezcatlipoca666
The only reason I use Windows is to play games. There are also many more Linux users than you think :)

same here. if i could get linux to behave with games then id dump windows in a second.
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#38 ShadowriverUB
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Ensamheten"]

Would it really be easier for us Linux users if it did? I mean it would be a way for compaines to sell native Linux games but what about games with DirectX? Linux Steam would need wine anyway

dc337

steam is coming to osx, which uses opengl as does a linux distro a game that could work with osx would require very little effort to be successfully ported.

It isn't that simple. For starters Linux isn't an OS, it's a kernel. There are distros that use the Linux kernel but those distros don't maintain compatibility with each other which makes porting a huge pain.

Those distros collectively have about 1% market share in the US while Apple has about 12%.

So the answer here is a big fat no.

No exacly, look like you didn't even go ferder with linux other then Ubuntu distro. And there 2 things that kill your "big fat no"

1. For linux software distros not exist, only libs exists and if you diliver them tthat software will work, 90% of most used linux software is distribute in source, you want to know why?

In each source compilation you need to init "./configure", this commend runs a script that set vartiables for source that can compile to each linux setup (since distro is nothing more then directory setup, and software distribution systems and system confirutation tools), if something is missing in system it will twll you, you install it or comple it from source and you ready to go, "porting" (it's not porting) for each distro is easy as recompiling that software in specific linux setup

A ton of that software works even on Cygwin! An Linux API for Windows, thing that linux developers not thinkmuch about, it works without even change a line of code

2. Even id distro got difrent directory placeing closed software still works fine, if something missing software will just ask for it and you install in, it wont yell something like "This distro don't have that, install on other distro". In matter of fact Linux have something like "/opt" directory allow to install software on whatever directory set up.

You don't belive? too bad there already example for that, for example RTCW:Enemy Territory, you install it via installer and it works on whatever distro you install it ;] if that game can why not other can?

Also TeamSpeak was closed software that installs via installer (not distro components) and work finr on all distros

Ofcorse in all examples you need to have installed specific libs and work on x86 architectur (x86_64 might work to)

If distros ware so diffrent, Linux fans would bot ask for "Linux games", Linux is OS, every software write for Linux will work on any distro you like, there quite a few closed source software on linux and it works fine.

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#39 imprezawrx500
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Steam should become an OS!

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that would be awesome if you could run you games without needing hungry windows to run.
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#40 skektek
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Ensamheten"]

Would it really be easier for us Linux users if it did? I mean it would be a way for compaines to sell native Linux games but what about games with DirectX? Linux Steam would need wine anyway

Teufelhuhn

steam is coming to osx, which uses opengl as does a linux distro a game that could work with osx would require very little effort to be successfully ported.



Really? So you have a lot of experience with porting AAA games from OSX to Linux, eh?

Troll much?

I think his point was that OSX and Linux are very similar, they share a lot of the same tech. Porting between OSx and Linux would be trivial relative trying to port something out of Windows. Believe it or not there was a time before predatory lock-in when games were available concurrently on several different platforms.