SHOWELVARE (according to GR): 1st, Wii = 90%, 2nd, 360 = 73%, 3rd, PS3 = 68%

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#1 -D3MO-
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THe Wii has the most showevalre games...90% of them.

Wii:

Total Number of Games Released: 157

Good Games (80%): 16

Showelvare: 89.9% (rounded to 90%), 141 games

360:

Total number of games released: 238

Good Games (80%): 86

Showelvare: 73%, 238 showelvare

PS3:

Total number of games released: 99

Good Games (80%): 36

Showelvare: 68%, 63 Showelvare

Wow....so why shouldn't the Wii be called a Showelvare Console?

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#2 sexy_chimp
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Someone has their v's and w's mixed up.
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#3 the-very-best
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It is expected as it is the fastest selling console of the 3.

But why focus on the shovelware? If you own a Wii, you go play the good games and ignore the crap. SMG just came out.

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#4 -D3MO-
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Someone has their v's and w's mixed up.sexy_chimp

must u nit-pick everything?

You sholuld apply to work at GS, you'd probably get the job lol

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#5 sexy_chimp
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"link?

show proof...w/o proof = bust"

Irony?

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#6 -D3MO-
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"link?

show proof...w/o proof = bust"

Irony?

sexy_chimp

Gamerankings is horrible (if I link, it just goes to the regular page, not the one I want). But you can check yourself.

But u can check yourself.

Go to GR, go the The Rankings.

Select Platform, Click go.


Count, add, divide, answer

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#7 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

"link?

show proof...w/o proof = bust"

Irony?

-D3MO-

Gamerankings is horrible (if I link, it just goes to the regular page, not the one I want). But you can check yourself.

But u can check yourself.

Go to GR, go the The Rankings.

Select Platform, Click go.


Count, add, divide, answer

Okay, I believe you, I'm just bothering you. Now go try it with the PS2 and see the results. Does that make the PS2 a bad system?

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#8 Pro_wrestler
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:lol:You got your "V's" and "W's" mixed up.

Also, you place the "Winner" by the amount of "good" games it has, not by the percentage because they all have different amounts of released titles. What if a system only has 1 game released and it scored AAA, wouldn't it be considered "the best" since it has 1:1 ratio of "good" games.

The Wii has the most showevalre games...90% of them.

Wii:

Total Number of Games Released: 157

Good Games (80%): 16

Showelvare: 89.9% (rounded to 90%), 141 games

360:

Total number of games released: 238

Good Games (80%): 86

Showelvare: 73%, 238 showelvare

PS3:

Total number of games released: 99

Good Games (80%): 36

Showelvare: 68%, 63 Showelvare

Wow....so why shouldn't the Wii be called a Showelvare Console?

-D3MO-
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#9 HelixTurnHelix
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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Someone has their v's and w's mixed up.-D3MO-

must u nit-pick everything?

You sholuld apply to work at GS, you'd probably get the job lol

It's not nitpicking when you call shovelware "showelvare". It's just common sense.
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[QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

"link?

show proof...w/o proof = bust"

Irony?

sexy_chimp

Gamerankings is horrible (if I link, it just goes to the regular page, not the one I want). But you can check yourself.

But u can check yourself.

Go to GR, go the The Rankings.

Select Platform, Click go.


Count, add, divide, answer

Okay, I believe you, I'm just bothering you. Now go try it with the PS2 and see the results. Does that make the PS2 a bad system?

I would do it, and find out...but I don't have the time...it would take like hours to sort though all the PS2 games...

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#11 Popadophalis
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I find this information to be irrelevant as it's kind of like the question "is the glass half full or half empty?"

In other words why waste time measuring how much air is in the glass (A.K.A shovelware) when we should be spending time finding the quantity of the milk (A.K.A great games).

None of us are going to be playing shovelware-type games so whywaste time researching them??

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#12 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="-D3MO-"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

"link?

show proof...w/o proof = bust"

Irony?

-D3MO-

Gamerankings is horrible (if I link, it just goes to the regular page, not the one I want). But you can check yourself.

But u can check yourself.

Go to GR, go the The Rankings.

Select Platform, Click go.


Count, add, divide, answer

Okay, I believe you, I'm just bothering you. Now go try it with the PS2 and see the results. Does that make the PS2 a bad system?

I would do it, and find out...but I don't have the time...it would take like hours to sort though all the PS2 games...

Okay, but we all know it would be very high, probably as high as the Wii's. But it doesn't matter because the PS2 still had all its great games.

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#13 -D3MO-
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:lol:You got your "V's" and "W's" mixed up.

Also, you place the "Winner" by the amount of "good" games it has, not by the percentage because they all have different amounts of released titles. What if a system only has 1 game released and it scored AAA, wouldn't it be considered "the best" since it has 1:1 ratio of "good" games.

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]

The Wii has the most showevalre games...90% of them.

Wii:

Total Number of Games Released: 157

Good Games (80%): 16

Showelvare: 89.9% (rounded to 90%), 141 games

360:

Total number of games released: 238

Good Games (80%): 86

Showelvare: 73%, 238 showelvare

PS3:

Total number of games released: 99

Good Games (80%): 36

Showelvare: 68%, 63 Showelvare

Wow....so why shouldn't the Wii be called a Showelvare Console?

Pro_wrestler

All 3 consoles have a fair amount of games. 72% of the 360 library is under 70%...28% is good, for the Wii 10% is good, and 90% bad....and the trend will continue..

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#14 -D3MO-
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I find this information to be irrelevant as it's kind of like the question "is the glass half full or half empty?"

In other words why waste time measuring how much air is in the glass (A.K.A shovelware) when we should be spending time finding the quantity of the milk (A.K.A great games).

None of us are going to be playing shovelware-type games so whywaste time researching them??

Popadophalis

But if one glass is half-full, wouldn't u get more enjoyment from it then a glass, that has only a few drops in it?

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#15 TDLlama
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Like I said in a very similar thread, the Wii has the most shovelware... but Wii owners typically play the good games and there's plenty to choose from.

Plus, are games in the 7 range shovelware/showelvare? I don't think so.

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#16 meetroid8
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It seems to make more sense to do it officially but whatever its yourthread.... really based on that since all 3 are well over half shovle ware it seems like they should all be called the shovle ware console.
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#17 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="Popadophalis"]

I find this information to be irrelevant as it's kind of like the question "is the glass half full or half empty?"

In other words why waste time measuring how much air is in the glass (A.K.A shovelware) when we should be spending time finding the quantity of the milk (A.K.A great games).

None of us are going to be playing shovelware-type games so whywaste time researching them??

-D3MO-

But if one glass is half-full, wouldn't u get more enjoyment from it then a glass, that has only a few drops in it?

The other glass might have a higher percentage of water, but since the other glass is bigger, even with a smaller percent you would still get more water.

Man, this comparison is getting confusing.

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#18 FusionApex
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Well games like Ninjabread Man don't exactly help the Wii.
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#19 goblaa
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what score counts as shovel ware?
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#20 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

:lol:You got your "V's" and "W's" mixed up.

Also, you place the "Winner" by the amount of "good" games it has, not by the percentage because they all have different amounts of released titles. What if a system only has 1 game released and it scored AAA, wouldn't it be considered "the best" since it has 1:1 ratio of "good" games.

[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]

The Wii has the most showevalre games...90% of them.

Wii:

Total Number of Games Released: 157

Good Games (80%): 16

Showelvare: 89.9% (rounded to 90%), 141 games

360:

Total number of games released: 238

Good Games (80%): 86

Showelvare: 73%, 238 showelvare

PS3:

Total number of games released: 99

Good Games (80%): 36

Showelvare: 68%, 63 Showelvare

Wow....so why shouldn't the Wii be called a Showelvare Console?

-D3MO-

All 3 consoles have a fair amount of games. 72% of the 360 library is under 70%...28% is good, for the Wii 10% is good, and 90% bad....and the trend will continue..

I see what your saying:) BUT! That 28% of 360's games that are rated "good" consists of a higher number of games because the 360s library is simply bigger which is why you place "t3h winnarr" by the number rather than the perecentage. That is..if thats what your trying to convey with your thread.

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#21 Popadophalis
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D3MO the Wii boasts a number of good to superb software titles on the system and in no way do those shovelware titles impede my enjoyment of the Wii.

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't find any PS3 owners for example saying

"Arghh Uncharted would be soo much better if LAIR didn't exist"

Yes I agree having more quality titles on a system is always a good thing but spending copious amounts of time researching which system has the most shovelware titles doesn't really do anyone any good, does it?.............. then again this is system wars:roll:

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#22 kiruyama
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Wait, did I read the OP correctly? All games below 80% are "shovelware"? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
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#23 goblaa
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Wait, did I read the OP correctly? All games below 80% are "shovelware"? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.kiruyama

That's what i think he's getting at...which is just silly. Anything under 60% to me is unplayable. And "bad" and "shovelware" relly mean two different things. Shovleware is a term reserved fro games that are quick ports or licensed games that score poorly.

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#24 JimJackJose
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LOL, 360 almost has as many 80%+ games as ps3 has games total.
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#25 Erkidu
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It is expected as it is the fastest selling console of the 3.

But why focus on the shovelware? If you own a Wii, you go play the good games and ignore the crap. SMG just came out.

the-very-best
My thoughts exactly. It's hilarious how fanboys damage control by ignoring the amazing games and saying "bu...teh look at all teh bad games!" :roll:
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#26 OregonTrailing
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What, no PC?

Where are the hermits screaming "this is system wars, not console wars!!!"

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#27 kansasdude2009
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The only problem I see with all of this is the multitude of sport titles on the PS3 and 360. When it comes down to it, the Wii is good for exclusives. Who cares what the % of shovelware is when you have games like Metroid Prime 3, Zack & Wiki, Trauma Center, and Mario Galaxy to pick from?
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#28 Shadow2k6
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D3MO the Wii boasts a number of good to superb software titles on the system and in no way do those shovelware titles impede my enjoyment of the Wii.

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't find any PS3 owners for example saying

"Arghh Uncharted would be soo much better if LAIR didn't exist"

Yes I agree having more quality titles on a system is always a good thing but spending copious amounts of time researching which system has the most shovelware titles doesn't really do anyone any good, does it?.............. then again this is system wars:)

Popadophalis

Pretty much. The only reason Wii has the most shovelware is because thats what most casuals own. The system with the most causals in its install base always has the most shovelware.

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#29 Hoffgod
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Your definiton of shovelware (showelvare?): Anything below an 8.0. A 7.0 (a "good" game according to GS) is shovelware. My conclusion: Your definition ****ing sucks.
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#30 SmashBrosLegend
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Calling every game that scores below an 80% "shovelware" is pretty ridiculous. There are many enjoyable games that score in the 65-79% range.
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#31 glitchgeeman
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Isn't is sort of obvious that the most popular console would have the most shovelware? Just look at the PS2. For every one decent game I see, there have got to be at least 30 that aren't even worth calling games. Besides, instead of paying attention to the bad games like a fanboy, why don't you look at the good ones like SMG and enjoy them like an actual gamer?
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#32 thelastguy
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Well it makes sense since the ps3 has the least number of units sold.
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#33 chutup
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Shovelware topics are like cancers. No matter how many you excise with the scalpel of logic, they keep growing back.
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#34 renger6002
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Shovelware topics are like cancers. No matter how many you excise with the scalpel of logic, they keep growing back. chutup

scalpel of logic :lol:

but really TC, open up your eyes and read the responses. So what if out of 100 games, 90 are shovelware (even though I don't agree with your definition of shovelware), when you have some really amazing gamesto enjoy. I'm sure for every good ps2 game there was some 20 shovelware software, did that make the ps2 a bad system?

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#35 Chu_Chu_basic
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Look at the total number of games released for 360... then look at the total number of games listed as shovelware for it... oops...
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#36 Tasman_basic
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Someone has their v's and w's mixed up.sexy_chimp

No shoWelVar is german for shovelware.

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#37 Ragashahs
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isn't this expected?
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#38 p3anut
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Who cares about the shovelware. The ps2 had the most crap games than the GC and Xbox and that didnt make the ps2 a crappy console.
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#39 Gimli524
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Who cares about the shovelware. The ps2 had the most crap games than the GC and Xbox and that didnt make the ps2 a crappy console.p3anut

QFT. The most popular console is going to attract the most crap. Just don't buy it.

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#40 BlazeDragon132
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We know Wii hosts alot of crappy redone PS2/PSP games. Proves devs leech on whatever is popular at the time.
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#41 Exile91
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[QUOTE="-D3MO-"]

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]Someone has their v's and w's mixed up.HelixTurnHelix

must u nit-pick everything?

You sholuld apply to work at GS, you'd probably get the job lol

It's not nitpicking when you call shovelware "showelvare". It's just common sense.

Is that the helix-turn-helix transcription factor in your sig?

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#42 Silenthps
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THe Wii has the most showevalre games...90% of them.

Wii:

Total Number of Games Released: 157

Good Games (80%): 16

Showelvare: 89.9% (rounded to 90%), 141 games

360:

Total number of games released: 238

Good Games (80%): 86

Showelvare: 73%, 238 showelvare

PS3:

Total number of games released: 99

Good Games (80%): 36

Showelvare: 68%, 63 Showelvare

Wow....so why shouldn't the Wii be called a Showelvare Console?

-D3MO-

... someone doesnt know the diffrence between 16 and 34

edit: actually 37 for bwii, fire emblem and moh2