Signs showing Xbox 360 is in a little trouble.

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#1 twopistols3k
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-Big titles flopping (Infinite Undescovery and Too Human)

-Price drop only means M$ is trying to recoup loses from RRoD and other lost revenue.

-PC is taking away all of M$ main exclusive titles reducing its overall value.

-DVD format not cutting it. Thats why its titles are too short (Gears for example) and Gears 2 is showing the limitations of the 360 (same 'ol game with a new coat of paint).

M$ is probably gearing up for the next box to recoup all of the losses from RRoD.

Discuss.

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#2 ash10692
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Interesting, but you are now flamebait. Have fun.
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#3 -TheSecondSign-
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Infinite Undiscovery and Too Human were not big exclusive super hyped games.

Everyone was divided over Too Human and I didn't even know Infinite Undiscovery was even out until about a week after it was actually released....
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-Big titles flopping (Infinite Undescovery and Too Human)

-Price drop only means M$ is trying to recoup loses from RRoD and other lost revenue.

-PC is taking away all of M$ main exclusive titles reducing its overall value.

-DVD format not cutting it. Thats why its titles are too short (Gears for example) and Gears 2 is showing the limitations of the 360 (same 'ol game with a new coat of paint).

M$ is probably gearing up for the next box to recoup all of the losses from RRoD.

Discuss.

twopistols3k

Wow, Really?! I'm sorry you feel that way. Absolutely nothing you wrote is fact. Nothing. Try harder.

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#5 ThisCurse
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Yeah, possibly. Makes me glad I only have $11 invested in my 360.
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#6 killerfist
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DVD format not cutting it?

and BluRay is? Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are just as short as Xbox games:|

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#7 patrickjw333
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duh, you cut the price to move systems not for customer appreciation thanks captain. obvious :lol:
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#8 cainetao11
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Fail. Flopping is a term used to reflect not meeting expected hype. Ninja Gaiden 2 "flopped", and still sold like crazy. Too Human is a huge "flop", but everyone of my gamer friends owns/owned a copy. All consoles drop prices over time, were they all recouping losses? The PS3 has Sony in the hole, why not drop the price then? PC is not the money maker on titles released for it. Those titles are released under the games for windows umbrella. Who makes windows?
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#9 KSU-Wildcat
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Technology becomes cheaper, its a cycle. That explains the pricedrop. I would hardly call those titles huge. And even if the PC has some of the same games, the majority of these games are Games for Windows. Microsoft is fine.

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#10 LastRedMage
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DVD format not cutting it?

and BluRay is? Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are just as short as Xbox games:|

killerfist

Yes and they were short because of lazy ness they didn't fill up teh blue ray

problem is xbox can have a crazy intense game like MGS4 and have it last more than 7 hours

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#11 KSU-Wildcat
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I just read the rest of your points and realized how idiotic this thread is, so much so that I regret ever posting in it.
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#12 johnnyblazed88
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360 still has alot of great games in its future

i think it will be around for atleast another 3 or 4 years

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-Big titles flopping (Infinite Undescovery and Too Human)

-Price drop only means M$ is trying to recoup loses from RRoD and other lost revenue.

-PC is taking away all of M$ main exclusive titles reducing its overall value.

-DVD format not cutting it. Thats why its titles are too short (Gears for example) and Gears 2 is showing the limitations of the 360 (same 'ol game with a new coat of paint).

M$ is probably gearing up for the next box to recoup all of the losses from RRoD.

Discuss.

twopistols3k

Everything on the PS3 flopped except MGS4.

Price drop to recoup cost ? No, Sony not being able to lower cost of PS3 due to Blu Ray ? Yes.

PC and 360 are very similar so its a logical step. That is if you are logical.

DVD is fine, games like GTA4 and Oblivion prove that.

MS thinking of continuing this mad console war ? They must be hurting...not

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-Big titles flopping (Infinite Undescovery and Too Human)So, Lair and Haze flopped, does that make Ps3 a bad console ?

-Price drop only means M$ is trying to recoup loses from RRoD and other lost revenue. No, the Price Drop just makes it an even better choice for us consumers.

-PC is taking away all of M$ main exclusive titles reducing its overall value It still has more AAAE, AAE and AE than Ps3. Though I can see this is an issue for people that game on PC.

-DVD format not cutting it. Thats why its titles are too short (Gears for example) and Gears 2 is showing the limitations of the 360 (same 'ol game with a new coat of paint). If GTA 4, Oblivion, Crackdown, Assasins Creed, Halo 3 etc. can all fit on one disk I can't see a problem. And if there is why not just use 2 disks. Even 3 or 4. It really doesn't matter to me.



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#15 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"]

DVD format not cutting it?

and BluRay is? Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are just as short as Xbox games:|

LastRedMage

Yes and they were short because of lazy ness they didn't fill up teh blue ray

filling up a BluRay disc with gameplay is way too expensive

I don't want to pay 100$ for a game

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-Big titles flopping (Infinite Undescovery and Too Human)

-Price drop only means M$ is trying to recoup loses from RRoD and other lost revenue.

-PC is taking away all of M$ main exclusive titles reducing its overall value.

-DVD format not cutting it. Thats why its titles are too short (Gears for example) and Gears 2 is showing the limitations of the 360 (same 'ol game with a new coat of paint).

M$ is probably gearing up for the next box to recoup all of the losses from RRoD.

Discuss.

twopistols3k

All console games are short now and this has nothing to do with DVD vs. Bluray. It's because of increased costs to develop for the systems. You people want excellent graphics, voice instead of text, great physics; all this costs money. Making a 30 hour game with all of this just is not feasible.

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#18 sneslover
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And do gamers care about that?

No.

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#19 DireOwl
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-Big titles flopping (Infinite Undescovery and Too Human) There are also big titles doing well. Tales of Vesperia?

-Price drop only means M$ is trying to recoup loses from RRoD and other lost revenue. They have been in the black for a while now. The 360 has been very successful from their business model.

-PC is taking away all of M$ main exclusive titles reducing its overall value. Not really. Most of those exclusives "taken away" come out months after the original. Plus most of those PC games are produced by Microsoft so they aren't losing any money.

-DVD format not cutting it. Thats why its titles are too short (Gears for example) and Gears 2 is showing the limitations of the 360 (same 'ol game with a new coat of paint). What?! If anything Blu-ray isn't cutting it. Not enough improvement for the price increase.

M$ is probably gearing up for the next box to recoup all of the losses from RRoD. They have already said they are working on the next Xbox, but Sony has also announced they are working on the PS4.

Discuss.

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#20 JAB991
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DVD isn't the issue relating to how long a game is. Take Okami on the Wii, for example. That's a 60 hour game on a Wii Optical Disc. Then you have PS3 games on Blu-Ray discs that lost less than 10 hours.

Then there's the PC taking away exclusive thingy you mentioned. That doesn't matter at all. Console gamers, for the most part, don't play PC games as much or at all. It's not troubling for a 360 fan to see them lose an exclusive to the PC while it is troubling for a PS3 when an exclusive is lost to the 360.

Too Human and Infite Undiscovery flopping aren't as devasting as you like to believe, TC. Too Human was already disliked by many thanks to Dennis Dyack's sheer idiocy on message boards. Right now, it has a score in the 60's on MetaCritic, which isn't bad, it's just not recommendable. Then there's Infinite Undiscovery, which did disappoint many, but still has good reviews overall and is in the 70's on MetaCritic. Compared to other flops this generation, most of which were on the PS3, actually, Too Human and Infinite Undiscovery are masterpieces.

Finally, the price cut you mentioned doesn't matter. It's just in response to the Wii's domination and Microsoft's drive to put out a SKU cheaper than the Wii. It's the second console this generation to receive a price cut, so again, it beat the PS3 there.

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-Big titles flopping (Infinite Undescovery and Too Human)

-Price drop only means M$ is trying to recoup loses from RRoD and other lost revenue.

-PC is taking away all of M$ main exclusive titles reducing its overall value.

-DVD format not cutting it. Thats why its titles are too short (Gears for example) and Gears 2 is showing the limitations of the 360 (same 'ol game with a new coat of paint).

M$ is probably gearing up for the next box to recoup all of the losses from RRoD.

Discuss.

twopistols3k

Don't forget slot loading disc tray :roll:

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#22 PAL360
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Now a price drop is a bad thing???
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#23 Erik_Lensherr
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Now a price drop is a bad thing???PAL360

Yes that's how you recoup losses

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#24 LastRedMage
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]Now a price drop is a bad thing???Erik_Lensherr

Yes that's how you recoup losses

ohh yeah i almost for got

Little big planet Can't be done on the 360!

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IN that order!

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-Big titles flopping (Infinite Undescovery and Too Human) You forgot AA-AAA games ToV and Viva Pinata, Braid, Geo Wars 2 and Castle Crashers. What has the ps3 released in the last 2 months?

-Price drop only means M$ is trying to recoup loses from RRoD and other lost revenue. Uh.. Price drops mean less revenue. where did you pull this out of?

-PC is taking away all of M$ main exclusive titles reducing its overall value. Yet the 360 still has a much better library than the ps3 for half the price. and you cant play those games on ps3.

-DVD format not cutting it. Thats why its titles are too short (Gears for example) and Gears 2 is showing the limitations of the 360 (same 'ol game with a new coat of paint). lol ever hear of compression. gta4 is bigger than mgs4, uncharted, and any other ps3 game but only uses 6 gb of space.

M$ is probably gearing up for the next box to recoup all of the losses from RRoD.

Discuss.

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#26 Enosh88
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-Big titles flopping (Infinite Undescovery and Too Human)

Discuss. twopistols3k

if that's a reason than the ps3 is dead, buried and already decomposed

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#27 Erik_Lensherr
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[QUOTE="twopistols3k"]

-Big titles flopping (Infinite Undescovery and Too Human)

Discuss. Enosh88

if that's a reason than the ps3 is dead, buried and already decomposed

Yah they get one good game and suddenly forgot all there other games flopped, and that they only have one game rated higher then 9.0.

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#28 ThisCurse
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Don't forget slot loading disc tray :roll:

Erik_Lensherr

What, are youy combining them? there is slot-load and then there is the disc tray. Cant be both.

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#29 xsubtownerx
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Perfect example of why level 5 and under shouldn't be allowed to create topics..
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#30 Erik_Lensherr
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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Don't forget slot loading disc tray :roll:

ThisCurse

What, are youy combining them? there is slot-load and then there is the disc tray. Cant be both.

You're right *goes outside hangs self*
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#31 Lidve
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[QUOTE="killerfist"]

DVD format not cutting it?

and BluRay is? Uncharted and Heavenly Sword are just as short as Xbox games:|

LastRedMage

Yes and they were short because of lazy ness they didn't fill up teh blue ray

problem is xbox can have a crazy intense game like MGS4 and have it last more than 7 hours

In reality,lenght of game dont have nothing to do with disc space.

Morrowind was 1 CD game and had over 200 hours of playtime.

Techno Mage was also 1CD game and had VOICE ACTING in every conversation + lasted long

What really takes up size is TEXTURES,MODELS etc.

New games use higher quality textures and stuffs,and that takes space ESPECIALY prerendered cutscenes like ones in Final Fantasy

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#32 dr_jashugan
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The X360 was in trouble from the start, cause of RRoD. So this is nothing NEW. 8)
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yes i agree
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#34 sireclaborn
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i agree with the price drop. the 360 wasn't selling and sales weren't going up and the ps3 and wii were selling more so ms had to drop the price. but ms is looking very very desprate now. what will happen after the price drop hype is over?? plus sony could easy price drop as well. also for you lems saying that too human and iu weren't big games stop lying to yourselfs. iu was hyped to hell because it was on the 360 and too human was also hyped. i remember the million pre-orders the just give it a try thread and everything.
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#35 hakanakumono
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BS, its doing just fine. Having a number of titles that didn't do as well as expected doesn't mean that its in trouble because its had titles that actually did BETTER than expected (vesperia).
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#36 Erik_Lensherr
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BS, its doing just fine. Having a number of titles that didn't do as well as expected doesn't mean that its in trouble because its had titles that actually did BETTER than expected (vesperia). hakanakumono

Yah I love how cows talk about flop. DO YOU NOT REMEMBER YOU ONLY HAVE 1 YES 1 GAME OVER 9.0.

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How sad...new account for this?

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#38 efrucht
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]BS, its doing just fine. Having a number of titles that didn't do as well as expected doesn't mean that its in trouble because its had titles that actually did BETTER than expected (vesperia). Erik_Lensherr

Yah I love how cows talk about flop. DO YOU NOT REMEMBER YOU ONLY HAVE 1 YES 1 GAME OVER 9.0.

Who really cares about score. My favorite PS3 games are all ones that have scored below 9.0, and I think they are incredible.